You learn something new everyday.... I use to think only "Black" ducks committed rape! Paul C

I think that's the most inappropriate comment I've ever heard on this mailing list. Deserving to be banned for life. -Michael ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Paul Cianfaglione <pgcianfaglione@gmail.com> Date: Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 8:42 AM Subject: [CT Birds] Mallards To: CT Lists <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> You learn something new everyday.... I use to think only "Black" ducks committed rape! Paul C _______________________________________________ This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. For subscription information visit http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org

I absolutely agree.  Disgusting. Jim Meinhold On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 08:45 AM, Michael Richardson wrote: > I think that's the most inappropriate comment I've ever heard on this > mailing list. Deserving to be banned for life. > > -Michael > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Paul Cianfaglione > Date: Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 8:42 AM > Subject: [CT Birds] Mallards > To: CT Lists > > You learn something new everyday.... I use to think only "Black" ducks > committed rape! > > Paul C > _______________________________________________ > This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association > (COA) > for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > For subscription information visit > > http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org > _______________________________________________ > This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association > (COA) for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > For subscription information visit > http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org >

If this was an attempt at a joke, not funny in any manner. Hopefully it was not meant how it came across... On Oct 18, 2013 8:46 AM, "Michael Richardson" <msr042377@gmail.com> wrote: > I think that's the most inappropriate comment I've ever heard on this > mailing list. Deserving to be banned for life. > > -Michael > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Paul Cianfaglione <pgcianfaglione@gmail.com> > Date: Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 8:42 AM > Subject: [CT Birds] Mallards > To: CT Lists <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> > > > You learn something new everyday.... I use to think only "Black" ducks > committed rape! > > Paul C > _______________________________________________ > This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) > for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > For subscription information visit > http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org > _______________________________________________ > This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) > for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > For subscription information visit > http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org >

I think the previous post was meant satirically and was not malicious in intent. Dave ---------- Forwarded message ----------

You've got to be kidding.  Anyone with a brain knows something like that is NOT a joke. Regards, Jim Meinhold On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 08:54 AM, Dave Provencher wrote: > I think the previous post was meant satirically and was not malicious > in > intent. > > Dave > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > _______________________________________________ > This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association > (COA) for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > For subscription information visit > http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org >

I was speaking of intent, neither condemning or condoning, but thanks for the insult. On Friday, October 18, 2013, Jim Meinhold wrote: > You've got to be kidding. Anyone with a brain knows something like that > is NOT a joke. > > Regards, > > Jim Meinhold > > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 08:54 AM, Dave Provencher wrote: > > I think the previous post was meant satirically and was not malicious in >> intent. >> >> Dave >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> ______________________________**_________________ >> This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) >> for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. >> For subscription information visit http://lists.ctbirding.org/** >> mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_**lists.ctbirding.org<http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org> >> >>

A "joke" carries with it the same racist innuendo. There is ABSOLUTELY NO means by which this can be construed as acceptable or permissible in any public, and for that matter private, forum. At 9am in the morning, I'm already disgusted, disappointed and ashamed as a citizen. See today's Washington Post article on slavery: The United States, per capita, has a very low rate of slavery: just 0.02 percent, or one in every 5,000 people. But that adds up to a lot: an estimated 60,000 slaves, right here in America." http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/10/17/this-map-shows-where-the-worlds-30-million-slaves-live-there-are-60000-in-the-u-s/ Barbara north Stamford ----- Original Message ----- From: Shaun Martin To: Michael Richardson Cc: ctbirds Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [CT Birds] Fwd: Mallards If this was an attempt at a joke, not funny in any manner. Hopefully it was not meant how it came across... On Oct 18, 2013 8:46 AM, "Michael Richardson" <msr042377@gmail.com> wrote: > I think that's the most inappropriate comment I've ever heard on this > mailing list. Deserving to be banned for life. > > -Michael > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Paul Cianfaglione <pgcianfaglione@gmail.com> > Date: Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 8:42 AM > Subject: [CT Birds] Mallards > To: CT Lists <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> > > > You learn something new everyday.... I use to think only "Black" ducks > committed rape! > > Paul C > _______________________________________________ > This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) > for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > For subscription information visit > http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org > _______________________________________________ > This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) > for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > For subscription information visit > http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org > _______________________________________________ This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. For subscription information visit http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org

I will state how I took it. I viewed it as a sarcastic slam against racists who think blacks commit most crimes. Maybe I'm wrong, only the poster can say. I also viewed it as a mistake to post. I also strongly believe if you have an issue with a post you should contact the moderator directly, not post to everyone. He has many years of experience handling these things and has pretty darn good judgment. CTBirds is freer from public squabbles than many forums and I believe most members would like to keep it that way. On Friday, October 18, 2013, Barbara Garrett wrote: > A "joke" carries with it the same racist innuendo. There is ABSOLUTELY NO > means by which this can be construed as acceptable or permissible in any > public, and for that matter private, forum. At 9am in the morning, I'm > already disgusted, disappointed and ashamed as a citizen. > > See today's Washington Post article on slavery: The United States, per > capita, has a very low rate of slavery: just 0.02 percent, or one in every > 5,000 people. But that adds up to a lot: an estimated 60,000 slaves, right > here in America." > http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/10/17/this-map-shows-where-the-worlds-30-million-slaves-live-there-are-60000-in-the-u-s/ > > Barbara > north Stamford > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Shaun Martin > To: Michael Richardson > Cc: ctbirds > Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 8:53 AM > Subject: Re: [CT Birds] Fwd: Mallards > > > If this was an attempt at a joke, not funny in any manner. Hopefully it > was > not meant how it came across... > On Oct 18, 2013 8:46 AM, "Michael Richardson" <msr042377@gmail.com<javascript:;>> > wrote: > > > I think that's the most inappropriate comment I've ever heard on this > > mailing list. Deserving to be banned for life. > > > > -Michael > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Paul Cianfaglione <pgcianfaglione@gmail.com <javascript:;>> > > Date: Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 8:42 AM > > Subject: [CT Birds] Mallards > > To: CT Lists <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org <javascript:;>> > > > > > > You learn something new everyday.... I use to think only "Black" ducks > > committed rape! > > > > Paul C > > _______________________________________________ > > This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association > (COA) > > for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > > For subscription information visit > > > http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org > > _______________________________________________ > > This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association > (COA) > > for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > > For subscription information visit > > > http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org > > > _______________________________________________ > This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association > (COA) for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > For subscription information visit > http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org > _______________________________________________ > This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) > for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > For subscription information visit > http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org >

If that is how you took it, then that is how you took it. It seems a lot of other people took it differently. You seem to be unique in your support of Paul. (I know you said you are not condemning or condoning it, but you are definitely supporting him.) But I disagree about not posting the feedback to everyone. For those who interpreted the comment as racist bigotry, expressing those feelings publicly will help to discourage others from making similar comments. Racism should not be hidden from public view, it should be exposed and dealt with and talked about so that everyone can learn from it. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dave Provencher <hikerbirder@gmail.com> Date: Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [CT Birds] Mallards To: Barbara Garrett <barbaragarrett@optonline.net> Cc: Shaun Martin <birdj510@gmail.com>, Michael Richardson < msr042377@gmail.com>, ctbirds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> I will state how I took it. I viewed it as a sarcastic slam against racists who think blacks commit most crimes. Maybe I'm wrong, only the poster can say. I also viewed it as a mistake to post. I also strongly believe if you have an issue with a post you should contact the moderator directly, not post to everyone. He has many years of experience handling these things and has pretty darn good judgment. CTBirds is freer from public squabbles than many forums and I believe most members would like to keep it that way. On Friday, October 18, 2013, Barbara Garrett wrote: > A "joke" carries with it the same racist innuendo. There is ABSOLUTELY NO > means by which this can be construed as acceptable or permissible in any > public, and for that matter private, forum. At 9am in the morning, I'm > already disgusted, disappointed and ashamed as a citizen. > > See today's Washington Post article on slavery: The United States, per > capita, has a very low rate of slavery: just 0.02 percent, or one in every > 5,000 people. But that adds up to a lot: an estimated 60,000 slaves, right > here in America." > http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/10/17/this-map-shows-where-the-worlds-30-million-slaves-live-there-are-60000-in-the-u-s/ > > Barbara > north Stamford > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Shaun Martin > To: Michael Richardson > Cc: ctbirds > Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 8:53 AM > Subject: Re: [CT Birds] Fwd: Mallards > > > If this was an attempt at a joke, not funny in any manner. Hopefully it > was > not meant how it came across... > On Oct 18, 2013 8:46 AM, "Michael Richardson" <msr042377@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I think that's the most inappropriate comment I've ever heard on this > > mailing list. Deserving to be banned for life. > > > > -Michael > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Paul Cianfaglione <pgcianfaglione@gmail.com> > > Date: Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 8:42 AM > > Subject: [CT Birds] Mallards > > To: CT Lists <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> > > > > > > You learn something new everyday.... I use to think only "Black" ducks > > committed rape! > > > > Paul C > > _______________________________________________ > > This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association > (COA) > > for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > > For subscription information visit > > > http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org > > _______________________________________________ > > This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association > (COA) > > for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > > For subscription information visit > > > http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org > > > _______________________________________________ > This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association > (COA) for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > For subscription information visit > http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org > _______________________________________________ > This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) > for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > For subscription information visit > http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org >