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LRZeitlin@aol.com
Sat, Aug 19, 2006 12:28 AM

The New York State AAA announced with glee that Gov. Pataki is proposing
legislation that would remove the NYS Canal system from the New York Thruway
Authority and establish an independent State Canal Corporation. This parting of the
ways will be phased in over three years and will be welcomed by motorists
whose toll fees support the canal. The estimated saving for the Thruway Authority
will be $305 million over that period. Pataki wants to make the canal part of
the Empire State Greenway Alliance, linking the greenway programs of the
Hudson River Valley, the Niagara River, and the Erie Canal to form the nation's
largest greenway and attract tourism. The problem for boaters is that someone
will have to pick up the cost of running the canal now that motorists are off
the hook. I wonder who that will be? Legislators are unlikely to raise taxes on
farmers and city dwellers to fund the recreation of the affluent boating
class.

Larry Z

The New York State AAA announced with glee that Gov. Pataki is proposing legislation that would remove the NYS Canal system from the New York Thruway Authority and establish an independent State Canal Corporation. This parting of the ways will be phased in over three years and will be welcomed by motorists whose toll fees support the canal. The estimated saving for the Thruway Authority will be $305 million over that period. Pataki wants to make the canal part of the Empire State Greenway Alliance, linking the greenway programs of the Hudson River Valley, the Niagara River, and the Erie Canal to form the nation's largest greenway and attract tourism. The problem for boaters is that someone will have to pick up the cost of running the canal now that motorists are off the hook. I wonder who that will be? Legislators are unlikely to raise taxes on farmers and city dwellers to fund the recreation of the affluent boating class. Larry Z
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Tommy Terrific
Sat, Aug 19, 2006 1:46 AM

Yeah well, we are the ones using it, right?
I'll be the first one to chip in $100, and I might never do it again!
Tommy

----- Original Message -----
From: LRZeitlin@aol.com
To: great-loop@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 8:28 PM
Subject: GL: Erie Canal alert

The New York State AAA announced with glee that Gov. Pataki is proposing
legislation that would remove the NYS Canal system from the New York

Thruway

Authority and establish an independent State Canal Corporation. This

parting of the

ways will be phased in over three years and will be welcomed by

motorists

whose toll fees support the canal. The estimated saving for the Thruway

Authority

will be $305 million over that period. Pataki wants to make the canal

part of

the Empire State Greenway Alliance, linking the greenway programs of the
Hudson River Valley, the Niagara River, and the Erie Canal to form the

nation's

largest greenway and attract tourism. The problem for boaters is that

someone

will have to pick up the cost of running the canal now that motorists

are off

the hook. I wonder who that will be? Legislators are unlikely to raise

taxes on

farmers and city dwellers to fund the recreation of the affluent boating
class.

Larry Z


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Yeah well, we are the ones using it, right? I'll be the first one to chip in $100, and I might never do it again! Tommy ----- Original Message ----- From: <LRZeitlin@aol.com> To: <great-loop@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 8:28 PM Subject: GL: Erie Canal alert > The New York State AAA announced with glee that Gov. Pataki is proposing > legislation that would remove the NYS Canal system from the New York Thruway > Authority and establish an independent State Canal Corporation. This parting of the > ways will be phased in over three years and will be welcomed by motorists > whose toll fees support the canal. The estimated saving for the Thruway Authority > will be $305 million over that period. Pataki wants to make the canal part of > the Empire State Greenway Alliance, linking the greenway programs of the > Hudson River Valley, the Niagara River, and the Erie Canal to form the nation's > largest greenway and attract tourism. The problem for boaters is that someone > will have to pick up the cost of running the canal now that motorists are off > the hook. I wonder who that will be? Legislators are unlikely to raise taxes on > farmers and city dwellers to fund the recreation of the affluent boating > class. > > Larry Z > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/great-loop
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Graham Pugh
Sat, Aug 19, 2006 12:18 PM

Having just completed an 8 day trip on the Rideau canal for the first time,
and being fairly familiar with the Erie and Oswego canal systems. I find it
very strange the two countries run their canal systems so differently.  It
is safe to say the purpose of each system is to attract tourism to the
respective areas. Unfortunately the Erie or should  I say Mohawk River runs
through some very economically depressed areas, unlike the Rideau Canal
playground  which is also enjoyed by the wealthy Ontarioites and a few
Americans who own beautiful properties adjacent to the lakes connecting the
system between Kingston and Ottawa.

The amount of traffic the Rideau Canal attracts, probably far exceeds the
Erie, at least between Oswego and the Hudson river, so do the user fees and
rightly so, there were usually at least four students to help dock boats in
the locks and operate the hand  lock gates.  From my experience the Erie
only becomes busiest in the Fall and Spring, when we snowbirds head south
and return.

I certainly hope Gov. Pataki has a means of financing the NYS Canal system,
because user fees will not raise the  300 million presently subsidized  by
the Thruway Authority.

Graham Pugh
Kando  11
Kingston, ON

----- Original Message -----
From: LRZeitlin@aol.com
To: great-loop@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 8:28 PM
Subject: GL: Erie Canal alert

The New York State AAA announced with glee that Gov. Pataki is proposing
legislation that would remove the NYS Canal system from the New York
Thruway
Authority and establish an independent State Canal Corporation. This
parting of the
ways will be phased in over three years and will be welcomed by motorists
whose toll fees support the canal. The estimated saving for the Thruway
Authority
will be $305 million over that period. Pataki wants to make the canal part
of
the Empire State Greenway Alliance, linking the greenway programs of the
Hudson River Valley, the Niagara River, and the Erie Canal to form the
nation's
largest greenway and attract tourism. The problem for boaters is that
someone
will have to pick up the cost of running the canal now that motorists are
off
the hook. I wonder who that will be? Legislators are unlikely to raise
taxes on
farmers and city dwellers to fund the recreation of the affluent boating
class.

Larry Z


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Having just completed an 8 day trip on the Rideau canal for the first time, and being fairly familiar with the Erie and Oswego canal systems. I find it very strange the two countries run their canal systems so differently. It is safe to say the purpose of each system is to attract tourism to the respective areas. Unfortunately the Erie or should I say Mohawk River runs through some very economically depressed areas, unlike the Rideau Canal playground which is also enjoyed by the wealthy Ontarioites and a few Americans who own beautiful properties adjacent to the lakes connecting the system between Kingston and Ottawa. The amount of traffic the Rideau Canal attracts, probably far exceeds the Erie, at least between Oswego and the Hudson river, so do the user fees and rightly so, there were usually at least four students to help dock boats in the locks and operate the hand lock gates. From my experience the Erie only becomes busiest in the Fall and Spring, when we snowbirds head south and return. I certainly hope Gov. Pataki has a means of financing the NYS Canal system, because user fees will not raise the 300 million presently subsidized by the Thruway Authority. Graham Pugh Kando 11 Kingston, ON ----- Original Message ----- From: <LRZeitlin@aol.com> To: <great-loop@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 8:28 PM Subject: GL: Erie Canal alert > The New York State AAA announced with glee that Gov. Pataki is proposing > legislation that would remove the NYS Canal system from the New York > Thruway > Authority and establish an independent State Canal Corporation. This > parting of the > ways will be phased in over three years and will be welcomed by motorists > whose toll fees support the canal. The estimated saving for the Thruway > Authority > will be $305 million over that period. Pataki wants to make the canal part > of > the Empire State Greenway Alliance, linking the greenway programs of the > Hudson River Valley, the Niagara River, and the Erie Canal to form the > nation's > largest greenway and attract tourism. The problem for boaters is that > someone > will have to pick up the cost of running the canal now that motorists are > off > the hook. I wonder who that will be? Legislators are unlikely to raise > taxes on > farmers and city dwellers to fund the recreation of the affluent boating > class. > > Larry Z > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/great-loop