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Dave Cooper
Thu, Jan 4, 2007 1:40 PM

We just received our new SmartRadio AIS receiver SR161 for Christmas and
connected it up thru a Milltech provided serial to USB adapter to our laptop
running Coastal Navigator.

Not a good out of box experience...nothing showed up on CN. After a few days
of working with Gregg at Coastal Navigator as we had no response from
Milltech, the vendor, we discovered that our other serial to USB adaptor
that is used for our GlobalStar data connection for our email was blocking
the new one from working even tho all the computer ports seemed to be
working and all the drivers were updated.

It is now working well but we have observed that lots of large ships (well
over 300 tons) are not broadcasting any signals. We are less than a mile
from the ferry terminal where they have 3 or 4 boats daily coming and going
plus I have at least 10 oil tankers in visual, within 5 miles, at all times.
Moving the antenna doesn't seem to be any help. So I don't think it is a
signal strength issue.

Can it be that this many ships over 300 tons are in violation of the
international laws requiring the use of transponders?

Has anyone else been able to verify the use or lack of use of AIS on ships?

Very curious to me........

Cheers

Dave & Nancy
Swan Song
Roughwater 58
Puerto La Cruz
Venezuela

We just received our new SmartRadio AIS receiver SR161 for Christmas and connected it up thru a Milltech provided serial to USB adapter to our laptop running Coastal Navigator. Not a good out of box experience...nothing showed up on CN. After a few days of working with Gregg at Coastal Navigator as we had no response from Milltech, the vendor, we discovered that our other serial to USB adaptor that is used for our GlobalStar data connection for our email was blocking the new one from working even tho all the computer ports seemed to be working and all the drivers were updated. It is now working well but we have observed that lots of large ships (well over 300 tons) are not broadcasting any signals. We are less than a mile from the ferry terminal where they have 3 or 4 boats daily coming and going plus I have at least 10 oil tankers in visual, within 5 miles, at all times. Moving the antenna doesn't seem to be any help. So I don't think it is a signal strength issue. Can it be that this many ships over 300 tons are in violation of the international laws requiring the use of transponders? Has anyone else been able to verify the use or lack of use of AIS on ships? Very curious to me........ Cheers Dave & Nancy Swan Song Roughwater 58 Puerto La Cruz Venezuela
JF
John Ford
Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:51 PM

I've seen what appears as ships that don't have AIS but I'm thinking
it has more do to install and learning curves.  I say install because
I was reading some where that the rules say that it is supposed to be
constantly on, and I have two experiences where I know thats not
true.  Just outside of Annapolis are two anchorages and I have seen
ships just disappear as they anchor waiting for the Pilot ship to
take them up to Baltimore.  I figure they must just be shutting down
their electronics and turning off the AIS with them.  I have also
heard on the radio as the bigs are negotiating passes one ask the
other where there AIS signal is.  Then you hear a embarrassing OH and
then poof they pop up, this is further proof that they are able to
turn it on and off.  This ability to turn it off may also explain why
some of the static information is missing, I'm wondering if that info
is stored in a way that protects it even if the power is off.  If not
that would seriously explain the 1 out of 5 ships on the bay that I
see without names.

Anyway, I know I was rambling but I just wanted you to know that your
not alone on questioning what is going on.. I think it will be a
while before all the kinks are sorted out, and maybe now that the
captains are getting used to the advantages of the technology it will
sort itself out faster.

John Ford
KK44 Feisty Lady
Annapolis City Marina

On Jan 4, 2007, at 8:40 AM, Dave Cooper wrote:

We just received our new SmartRadio AIS receiver SR161 for
Christmas and
connected it up thru a Milltech provided serial to USB adapter to
our laptop
running Coastal Navigator.

Not a good out of box experience...nothing showed up on CN. After a
few days
of working with Gregg at Coastal Navigator as we had no response from
Milltech, the vendor, we discovered that our other serial to USB
adaptor
that is used for our GlobalStar data connection for our email was
blocking
the new one from working even tho all the computer ports seemed to be
working and all the drivers were updated.

It is now working well but we have observed that lots of large
ships (well
over 300 tons) are not broadcasting any signals. We are less than a
mile
from the ferry terminal where they have 3 or 4 boats daily coming
and going
plus I have at least 10 oil tankers in visual, within 5 miles, at
all times.
Moving the antenna doesn't seem to be any help. So I don't think it
is a
signal strength issue.

Can it be that this many ships over 300 tons are in violation of the
international laws requiring the use of transponders?

Has anyone else been able to verify the use or lack of use of AIS
on ships?

Very curious to me........

Cheers

Dave & Nancy
Swan Song
Roughwater 58
Puerto La Cruz
Venezuela


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I've seen what appears as ships that don't have AIS but I'm thinking it has more do to install and learning curves. I say install because I was reading some where that the rules say that it is supposed to be constantly on, and I have two experiences where I know thats not true. Just outside of Annapolis are two anchorages and I have seen ships just disappear as they anchor waiting for the Pilot ship to take them up to Baltimore. I figure they must just be shutting down their electronics and turning off the AIS with them. I have also heard on the radio as the bigs are negotiating passes one ask the other where there AIS signal is. Then you hear a embarrassing OH and then poof they pop up, this is further proof that they are able to turn it on and off. This ability to turn it off may also explain why some of the static information is missing, I'm wondering if that info is stored in a way that protects it even if the power is off. If not that would seriously explain the 1 out of 5 ships on the bay that I see without names. Anyway, I know I was rambling but I just wanted you to know that your not alone on questioning what is going on.. I think it will be a while before all the kinks are sorted out, and maybe now that the captains are getting used to the advantages of the technology it will sort itself out faster. John Ford KK44 Feisty Lady Annapolis City Marina On Jan 4, 2007, at 8:40 AM, Dave Cooper wrote: > We just received our new SmartRadio AIS receiver SR161 for > Christmas and > connected it up thru a Milltech provided serial to USB adapter to > our laptop > running Coastal Navigator. > > Not a good out of box experience...nothing showed up on CN. After a > few days > of working with Gregg at Coastal Navigator as we had no response from > Milltech, the vendor, we discovered that our other serial to USB > adaptor > that is used for our GlobalStar data connection for our email was > blocking > the new one from working even tho all the computer ports seemed to be > working and all the drivers were updated. > > It is now working well but we have observed that lots of large > ships (well > over 300 tons) are not broadcasting any signals. We are less than a > mile > from the ferry terminal where they have 3 or 4 boats daily coming > and going > plus I have at least 10 oil tankers in visual, within 5 miles, at > all times. > Moving the antenna doesn't seem to be any help. So I don't think it > is a > signal strength issue. > > Can it be that this many ships over 300 tons are in violation of the > international laws requiring the use of transponders? > > Has anyone else been able to verify the use or lack of use of AIS > on ships? > > Very curious to me........ > > Cheers > > Dave & Nancy > Swan Song > Roughwater 58 > Puerto La Cruz > Venezuela > _______________________________________________ > > Passagemaking Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World > Productions, formerly known as Trawler World Productions. > > To be removed from the PUP list send an email with the > subject "unsubscribe" (no quotes) to the link below: > > mailto:passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com > > Passagemaking-Under-Power Mailing List