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PaulJChristman@aol.com
Wed, Oct 17, 2007 4:41 AM
Georgs:
How did you come to the decision to get the Tomcat? What alternatives did
you discard? I'm thinking of getting my first catamaran; since my father
bought a catamaran runabout in 1960 I've been convinced it's the best bet for
any size boat. What would be a good starter cat (displacement, only, if
possible) for someone who wants to learn slowly?
Thanks,
Paul
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Georgs:
How did you come to the decision to get the Tomcat? What alternatives did
you discard? I'm thinking of getting my first catamaran; since my father
bought a catamaran runabout in 1960 I've been convinced it's the best bet for
any size boat. What would be a good starter cat (displacement, only, if
possible) for someone who wants to learn slowly?
Thanks,
Paul
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Thomas L Rogers
Wed, Oct 17, 2007 11:21 AM
Georgs:
How did you come to the decision to get the Tomcat? What alternatives
did
you discard? I'm thinking of getting my first catamaran; since my
father
bought a catamaran runabout in 1960 I've been convinced it's the best bet
for
any size boat. What would be a good starter cat (displacement, only, if
possible) for someone who wants to learn slowly?
Thanks,
Paul
See what's new at
http://www.aol.com
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
Paul,
You may want to include the Mototcat30 in your search... we just purchased
one on the used market.
http://www.motorcat.com/index_mc30.html
Tom
On 10/17/07, PaulJChristman@aol.com <PaulJChristman@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Georgs:
> How did you come to the decision to get the Tomcat? What alternatives
> did
> you discard? I'm thinking of getting my first catamaran; since my
> father
> bought a catamaran runabout in 1960 I've been convinced it's the best bet
> for
> any size boat. What would be a good starter cat (displacement, only, if
> possible) for someone who wants to learn slowly?
> Thanks,
> Paul
>
>
> **************************************
> See what's new at
> http://www.aol.com
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Georgs Kolesnikovs
Thu, Oct 18, 2007 3:17 PM
How did you come to the decision to get the TomCat?
We did not want to spend more than $100K, as we're not certain how
much we'll be able to use the boat over the next few years.
Our priority was capability for cruising in inland and coastal waters
for one week to one month.
Trailerability was somewhat import.
We can be happy with minimalist amenities. We don't need or want all
the comforts of home out on the water.
What alternatives did
you discard?
Motorcat 29 and 30, close to the mark, but with greater emphasis on
light weight and fuel economy than we require. The heavier, more
rugged TomCat had greater appeal.
The new TomCat 255, because we don't like the C-Dory look and it was
more than $100K.
World Cat, Glacier Bay and other small cats, because they're
essentially day boats with a focus on fishing.
If we were not restrained by that $100K budget and the wish to be
able to trailer on occasion, we would likely have gone with the
Buzzards Bay 33 for our purposes.
http://www.mdcats.com/MDBuzzardsBay33OBspecsandequipment.htm
There are many fascinating and challenging cruises to be had not far
from home. Here are the possibles:
-- Loop Thousand Islands, St. Lawrence River and Rideau Canal
-- Enjoy Trent-Severn Waterway
-- Cruise the North Channel
-- Explore Lake Superior
-- Take the train to Moosonee for a poke around James Bay
-- Circumnavigate Vancouver Island
-- Poke our way up the Inside Passage
-- Head north to Alaska and maybe even the Aleutians
-- Trailer down to the Sea of Cortez
-- Cruise a winter in the Bahamas
-- Circumnavigate Cape Breton Island and cruise Lake Bras d'Or
-- Make the passage to Iles de la Madeleine in the Gulf of St. Lawrence
-- Circumnavigate Newfoundland
-- Look for icebergs and whales off the Labrador coast.
For such cruising dreams, the TomCat 24 may be the perfect boat--for
us. Time will tell the tale.
--Georgs
At Last, TomCat 24
Frenchman's Bay, Lake Ontario
Paul Christman wrote:
>How did you come to the decision to get the TomCat?
We did not want to spend more than $100K, as we're not certain how
much we'll be able to use the boat over the next few years.
Our priority was capability for cruising in inland and coastal waters
for one week to one month.
Trailerability was somewhat import.
We can be happy with minimalist amenities. We don't need or want all
the comforts of home out on the water.
>What alternatives did
>you discard?
Motorcat 29 and 30, close to the mark, but with greater emphasis on
light weight and fuel economy than we require. The heavier, more
rugged TomCat had greater appeal.
The new TomCat 255, because we don't like the C-Dory look and it was
more than $100K.
World Cat, Glacier Bay and other small cats, because they're
essentially day boats with a focus on fishing.
If we were not restrained by that $100K budget and the wish to be
able to trailer on occasion, we would likely have gone with the
Buzzards Bay 33 for our purposes.
http://www.mdcats.com/MDBuzzardsBay33OBspecsandequipment.htm
There are many fascinating and challenging cruises to be had not far
from home. Here are the possibles:
-- Loop Thousand Islands, St. Lawrence River and Rideau Canal
-- Enjoy Trent-Severn Waterway
-- Cruise the North Channel
-- Explore Lake Superior
-- Take the train to Moosonee for a poke around James Bay
-- Circumnavigate Vancouver Island
-- Poke our way up the Inside Passage
-- Head north to Alaska and maybe even the Aleutians
-- Trailer down to the Sea of Cortez
-- Cruise a winter in the Bahamas
-- Circumnavigate Cape Breton Island and cruise Lake Bras d'Or
-- Make the passage to Iles de la Madeleine in the Gulf of St. Lawrence
-- Circumnavigate Newfoundland
-- Look for icebergs and whales off the Labrador coast.
For such cruising dreams, the TomCat 24 may be the perfect boat--for
us. Time will tell the tale.
--Georgs
--
At Last, TomCat 24
Frenchman's Bay, Lake Ontario
GK
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Thu, Oct 18, 2007 3:20 PM
What would be a good starter cat (displacement, only, if
possible) for someone who wants to learn slowly?
Before anyone on the List can attempt to answer such a question,
you'll need to provide additional information about the intended use
of the boat:
-- inland, coastal or offshore
-- fishing, cruising or living aboard
-- under 30 feet, 30 to 40 feet, or larger?
--Georgs
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Power Catamaran World
http://www.powercatamaranworld.com
Paul Christman wrote
>What would be a good starter cat (displacement, only, if
>possible) for someone who wants to learn slowly?
Before anyone on the List can attempt to answer such a question,
you'll need to provide additional information about the intended use
of the boat:
-- inland, coastal or offshore
-- fishing, cruising or living aboard
-- under 30 feet, 30 to 40 feet, or larger?
--Georgs
--
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Power Catamaran World
http://www.powercatamaranworld.com
GS
Greg Schoenberg
Thu, Oct 18, 2007 3:50 PM
Nice choice....I agree with your decision. I think the 24 is nicer than the
25 footer. Definitely more bang for the buck.
Be careful about going to Alaska. First you would do Puget Sound. It's so
beautiful...ice free....with tons of places to explore. You might not ever
come back.
-Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: "Georgs Kolesnikovs" georgs@powercatamaranworld.com
To: "Power Catamaran List" power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:17 AM
Subject: [PCW] TomCat 24/Why we decided on the original TomCat
How did you come to the decision to get the TomCat?
We did not want to spend more than $100K, as we're not certain how
much we'll be able to use the boat over the next few years.
Our priority was capability for cruising in inland and coastal waters
for one week to one month.
Trailerability was somewhat import.
We can be happy with minimalist amenities. We don't need or want all
the comforts of home out on the water.
What alternatives did
you discard?
Motorcat 29 and 30, close to the mark, but with greater emphasis on
light weight and fuel economy than we require. The heavier, more
rugged TomCat had greater appeal.
The new TomCat 255, because we don't like the C-Dory look and it was
more than $100K.
World Cat, Glacier Bay and other small cats, because they're
essentially day boats with a focus on fishing.
If we were not restrained by that $100K budget and the wish to be
able to trailer on occasion, we would likely have gone with the
Buzzards Bay 33 for our purposes.
http://www.mdcats.com/MDBuzzardsBay33OBspecsandequipment.htm
There are many fascinating and challenging cruises to be had not far
from home. Here are the possibles:
-- Loop Thousand Islands, St. Lawrence River and Rideau Canal
-- Enjoy Trent-Severn Waterway
-- Cruise the North Channel
-- Explore Lake Superior
-- Take the train to Moosonee for a poke around James Bay
-- Circumnavigate Vancouver Island
-- Poke our way up the Inside Passage
-- Head north to Alaska and maybe even the Aleutians
-- Trailer down to the Sea of Cortez
-- Cruise a winter in the Bahamas
-- Circumnavigate Cape Breton Island and cruise Lake Bras d'Or
-- Make the passage to Iles de la Madeleine in the Gulf of St. Lawrence
-- Circumnavigate Newfoundland
-- Look for icebergs and whales off the Labrador coast.
For such cruising dreams, the TomCat 24 may be the perfect boat--for
us. Time will tell the tale.
--Georgs
At Last, TomCat 24
Frenchman's Bay, Lake Ontario
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
Nice choice....I agree with your decision. I think the 24 is nicer than the
25 footer. Definitely more bang for the buck.
Be careful about going to Alaska. First you would do Puget Sound. It's so
beautiful...ice free....with tons of places to explore. You might not ever
come back.
-Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: "Georgs Kolesnikovs" <georgs@powercatamaranworld.com>
To: "Power Catamaran List" <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:17 AM
Subject: [PCW] TomCat 24/Why we decided on the original TomCat
> Paul Christman wrote:
>
> >How did you come to the decision to get the TomCat?
>
> We did not want to spend more than $100K, as we're not certain how
> much we'll be able to use the boat over the next few years.
>
> Our priority was capability for cruising in inland and coastal waters
> for one week to one month.
>
> Trailerability was somewhat import.
>
> We can be happy with minimalist amenities. We don't need or want all
> the comforts of home out on the water.
>
> >What alternatives did
> >you discard?
>
> Motorcat 29 and 30, close to the mark, but with greater emphasis on
> light weight and fuel economy than we require. The heavier, more
> rugged TomCat had greater appeal.
>
> The new TomCat 255, because we don't like the C-Dory look and it was
> more than $100K.
>
> World Cat, Glacier Bay and other small cats, because they're
> essentially day boats with a focus on fishing.
>
> If we were not restrained by that $100K budget and the wish to be
> able to trailer on occasion, we would likely have gone with the
> Buzzards Bay 33 for our purposes.
>
> http://www.mdcats.com/MDBuzzardsBay33OBspecsandequipment.htm
>
> There are many fascinating and challenging cruises to be had not far
> from home. Here are the possibles:
>
> -- Loop Thousand Islands, St. Lawrence River and Rideau Canal
> -- Enjoy Trent-Severn Waterway
> -- Cruise the North Channel
> -- Explore Lake Superior
> -- Take the train to Moosonee for a poke around James Bay
> -- Circumnavigate Vancouver Island
> -- Poke our way up the Inside Passage
> -- Head north to Alaska and maybe even the Aleutians
> -- Trailer down to the Sea of Cortez
> -- Cruise a winter in the Bahamas
> -- Circumnavigate Cape Breton Island and cruise Lake Bras d'Or
> -- Make the passage to Iles de la Madeleine in the Gulf of St. Lawrence
> -- Circumnavigate Newfoundland
> -- Look for icebergs and whales off the Labrador coast.
>
> For such cruising dreams, the TomCat 24 may be the perfect boat--for
> us. Time will tell the tale.
>
> --Georgs
> --
> At Last, TomCat 24
> Frenchman's Bay, Lake Ontario
> _______________________________________________
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GK
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Thu, Oct 18, 2007 4:30 PM
Be careful about going to Alaska. First you would do Puget Sound. It's so
beautiful...ice free....with tons of places to explore. You might not ever
come back.
Actually, I'm already quite familiar with Puget Sound, and the San
Juans, having cruised there several times during the eight years I
produced West Marine Trawler Fest in Port Orchard and then Poulsbo,
between 1996 and 2004.
You're absolutely correct, Puget Sound is a great cruising ground.
--Georgs
Greg Schoenberg wrote
>Be careful about going to Alaska. First you would do Puget Sound. It's so
>beautiful...ice free....with tons of places to explore. You might not ever
>come back.
Actually, I'm already quite familiar with Puget Sound, and the San
Juans, having cruised there several times during the eight years I
produced West Marine Trawler Fest in Port Orchard and then Poulsbo,
between 1996 and 2004.
You're absolutely correct, Puget Sound is a great cruising ground.
--Georgs
GS
Greg Schoenberg
Thu, Oct 18, 2007 5:14 PM
Whereas I'm just discovering Puget Sound. My 30' Carver was chartered at
Friday Harbor for the summer which afforded us some opportunity for
exploration. Now it's at Brownsville for the winter. Last weekend, we
spent a night at Port Orchard, then Seattle at Bell Harbor. Terrific time.
We were mystified about Port Orchard though. Beautiful area and yet a seedy
downtown/waterfront, full of bars and "interesting" people. Beer bottles
were everywhere the next morning. We hear that a developer has purchased
some of it for the purpose of transforming (condos/shops) but some locals
are fighting it.
Hope they lose.
-Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: "Georgs Kolesnikovs" georgs@powercatamaranworld.com
To: "Power Catamaran List" power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: [PCW] TomCat 24/Why we decided on the original TomCat
Be careful about going to Alaska. First you would do Puget Sound. It's
beautiful...ice free....with tons of places to explore. You might not
Actually, I'm already quite familiar with Puget Sound, and the San
Juans, having cruised there several times during the eight years I
produced West Marine Trawler Fest in Port Orchard and then Poulsbo,
between 1996 and 2004.
You're absolutely correct, Puget Sound is a great cruising ground.
--Georgs
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
Whereas I'm just discovering Puget Sound. My 30' Carver was chartered at
Friday Harbor for the summer which afforded us some opportunity for
exploration. Now it's at Brownsville for the winter. Last weekend, we
spent a night at Port Orchard, then Seattle at Bell Harbor. Terrific time.
We were mystified about Port Orchard though. Beautiful area and yet a seedy
downtown/waterfront, full of bars and "interesting" people. Beer bottles
were everywhere the next morning. We hear that a developer has purchased
some of it for the purpose of transforming (condos/shops) but some locals
are fighting it.
Hope they lose.
-Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: "Georgs Kolesnikovs" <georgs@powercatamaranworld.com>
To: "Power Catamaran List" <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: [PCW] TomCat 24/Why we decided on the original TomCat
> Greg Schoenberg wrote
>
> >Be careful about going to Alaska. First you would do Puget Sound. It's
so
> >beautiful...ice free....with tons of places to explore. You might not
ever
> >come back.
>
> Actually, I'm already quite familiar with Puget Sound, and the San
> Juans, having cruised there several times during the eight years I
> produced West Marine Trawler Fest in Port Orchard and then Poulsbo,
> between 1996 and 2004.
>
> You're absolutely correct, Puget Sound is a great cruising ground.
>
> --Georgs
> _______________________________________________
> Power-Catamaran Mailing List
RD
Robert Deering
Mon, Oct 22, 2007 5:35 AM
I dunno Georgs. I was out in the Aleutians yesterday. It looks like
awesome cruising country. But in a 24 ft boat with an 8 ft beam? Not for
me. No chance. Ignoring the common 50 kt winds - fuel resupply is many
hundreds of miles apart.
SE Alaska & Prince William Sound? No problem. Come on up. And stop in and
say hello.
Bob Deering
Juneau, Alaska
-----Original Message-----
From: power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com
[mailto:power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Georgs
Kolesnikovs
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:30 AM
To: Power Catamaran List
Subject: Re: [PCW] TomCat 24/Why we decided on the original TomCat
Greg Schoenberg wrote
Be careful about going to Alaska. First you would do Puget Sound. It's so
beautiful...ice free....with tons of places to explore. You might not ever
come back.
Actually, I'm already quite familiar with Puget Sound, and the San
Juans, having cruised there several times during the eight years I
produced West Marine Trawler Fest in Port Orchard and then Poulsbo,
between 1996 and 2004.
You're absolutely correct, Puget Sound is a great cruising ground.
--Georgs
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
I dunno Georgs. I was out in the Aleutians yesterday. It looks like
awesome cruising country. But in a 24 ft boat with an 8 ft beam? Not for
me. No chance. Ignoring the common 50 kt winds - fuel resupply is many
hundreds of miles apart.
SE Alaska & Prince William Sound? No problem. Come on up. And stop in and
say hello.
Bob Deering
Juneau, Alaska
-----Original Message-----
From: power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com
[mailto:power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Georgs
Kolesnikovs
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:30 AM
To: Power Catamaran List
Subject: Re: [PCW] TomCat 24/Why we decided on the original TomCat
Greg Schoenberg wrote
>Be careful about going to Alaska. First you would do Puget Sound. It's so
>beautiful...ice free....with tons of places to explore. You might not ever
>come back.
Actually, I'm already quite familiar with Puget Sound, and the San
Juans, having cruised there several times during the eight years I
produced West Marine Trawler Fest in Port Orchard and then Poulsbo,
between 1996 and 2004.
You're absolutely correct, Puget Sound is a great cruising ground.
--Georgs
_______________________________________________
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
GK
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Mon, Oct 22, 2007 12:09 PM
I dunno Georgs. I was out in the Aleutians yesterday. It looks like
awesome cruising country. But in a 24 ft boat with an 8 ft beam? Not for
me.
I know, I know, it would be quite a challenge, and maybe it's just a
fantasy, but Dutch Harbor has been calling me every since I first
read about the Aleutians.
--Georgs
At Last, TomCat 24
Frenchman's Bay, Lake Ontario
>I dunno Georgs. I was out in the Aleutians yesterday. It looks like
>awesome cruising country. But in a 24 ft boat with an 8 ft beam? Not for
>me.
I know, I know, it would be quite a challenge, and maybe it's just a
fantasy, but Dutch Harbor has been calling me every since I first
read about the Aleutians.
--Georgs
--
At Last, TomCat 24
Frenchman's Bay, Lake Ontario