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Re: GL: ... Locking Thru the Erie

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fred@tug44.org
Mon, Oct 1, 2012 4:03 PM

Craig,

Locking thru is no big deal, ya just need to get used to it.

If you have 2 people on board, one should be on each end of the boat and
each grab a line and you'll be fine.  There will be a certain amount of
movement of the boat but this doesn't matter.

If you are single-handing, go for a pipe or cable if available, and loop a
line around it and cleat one end.  Have the other end in your hand, you can
wrap it on a cleat but keep the end loose so you can adjust.  If you are
attaching to the pipe or cable, do it amidships.

If no pipe or cable is available, then grab a lock line from amidships, and
stay there, do not walk back and forth at all, just stay amidships.  Allow
the boat to swing around a bit, this doesn't hurt anything.

Do NOT expect help from the lock oeprators, they are busy operating the
lock.  Yes they will help if they can, but it is your responsibility to
maintain control of your boat, not the lock operators.  Also remember, the
operators are not boat owners, they are NOT necessarily your best source
for advice or help!

On my boat, the midships cleat is a bit far forward, so I add a huge ball
fender near the front end of the boat, somewhat forward of where it curves
in, thereby extending the straight side of the boat to a more forward
point.  This reduces the swinging around quite a bit, especially during
windy conditions.

Some locks fill almost right up to the sidewalk, so there you will need
some tube fenders dragging in the water.  Otherwise ball fenders are best.
My boat has both.  The tube fenders are dragging in the water, and the ball
fenders are just below the rub rail, so I will be all set regardless of how
high the lock fills.

Do NOT use hanging boards across your fenders, they add complication, and
may get you into trouble.

Some folks cover their fenders with bags, large "socks" or other covers to
keep them clean.  Do not do this!  The covers generally tear off and drop
into the lock and they will clog the lock valves, or tangle into your own
propellers.  Let the fenders get dirty, that's what they are for.

It is not necessary to keep the boat straight in the lock, a certain amount
of swinging is perfectly fine.  You do not need perfection.

It is also advisable to have fenders on both sides of your boat, you never
know when someone may try to pass you in the lock and accidentally bump
you.

Be sure your crew knows what to do.  For example, I had told the admiral to
just hang on no matter what, and she always did that.  Then one time I
heard yelling & crying from the back of the boat and was horrified to see
her being nearly lifted off the deck as the wind caught her end of the
boat!  She was determined to hang on to that line no matter what, but she
could not physically do it after the wind caught the boat.  So we had a
little talk and the new instructions were to hang on and if something went
wrong, she was to scream loudly so I would know and then she was to simply
let go.    Always prepare for the unexpected.

I do most of my locking single-handed, so I use a pole with a clip on the
end, to pass a loop behind the pipe or cable, and then I catch it with a
2nd pole hook and pull it in as the clip pulls loose.

My very first locking was much too exciting, the lock operator gave very
bad & wrong instructions and the boat ahead of me broke loose and hit the
opposite wall very hard.  My 2nd locking was just fine, but on my 3rd
locking, one gate was broken, and I had to get my 14 foot wide boat thru
the narrow opening of one gate only with only 2-3 feet to spare on each
side of my fenders.

When entering the lock, always move all the way in.  You never know when
another boat will suddenly appear.

The first lockings may be a bit exciting, but then it becomes routine and
no big deal.  Not to worry!  When I do it, I hook up to a pipe or cable,
and then go make coffee.

Fred
Tug 44


From: "Craig Marshall" craighmarshall@yahoo.com
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:44 AM
To: "great-loop@lists.trawlering.com" great-loop@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: ... GL: Locking Thru the Erie

I own a 28ft Hatteras Cruiser and plan on going solo.  What issues should I
expect locking through?  I am planning on taking the lock line(s) at
midships and walking back and forth to keep the boat close to wall. Both
stb and port decks are wide and clear.  Just not sure how much line is
given at the locks.

Knowing that there are a few locks at Waterford (E2-E7), it can get very
labor intensive.  Can I get assistance from the LM if need be in locating
some local help?

Are there any other areas that may require added assistance?

Thanks

Craig Marshall
Lil' Hatt


Craig, Locking thru is no big deal, ya just need to get used to it. If you have 2 people on board, one should be on each end of the boat and each grab a line and you'll be fine. There will be a certain amount of movement of the boat but this doesn't matter. If you are single-handing, go for a pipe or cable if available, and loop a line around it and cleat one end. Have the other end in your hand, you can wrap it on a cleat but keep the end loose so you can adjust. If you are attaching to the pipe or cable, do it amidships. If no pipe or cable is available, then grab a lock line from amidships, and stay there, do not walk back and forth at all, just stay amidships. Allow the boat to swing around a bit, this doesn't hurt anything. Do NOT expect help from the lock oeprators, they are busy operating the lock. Yes they will help if they can, but it is your responsibility to maintain control of your boat, not the lock operators. Also remember, the operators are not boat owners, they are NOT necessarily your best source for advice or help! On my boat, the midships cleat is a bit far forward, so I add a huge ball fender near the front end of the boat, somewhat forward of where it curves in, thereby extending the straight side of the boat to a more forward point. This reduces the swinging around quite a bit, especially during windy conditions. Some locks fill almost right up to the sidewalk, so there you will need some tube fenders dragging in the water. Otherwise ball fenders are best. My boat has both. The tube fenders are dragging in the water, and the ball fenders are just below the rub rail, so I will be all set regardless of how high the lock fills. Do NOT use hanging boards across your fenders, they add complication, and may get you into trouble. Some folks cover their fenders with bags, large "socks" or other covers to keep them clean. Do not do this! The covers generally tear off and drop into the lock and they will clog the lock valves, or tangle into your own propellers. Let the fenders get dirty, that's what they are for. It is not necessary to keep the boat straight in the lock, a certain amount of swinging is perfectly fine. You do not need perfection. It is also advisable to have fenders on both sides of your boat, you never know when someone may try to pass you in the lock and accidentally bump you. Be sure your crew knows what to do. For example, I had told the admiral to just hang on no matter what, and she always did that. Then one time I heard yelling & crying from the back of the boat and was horrified to see her being nearly lifted off the deck as the wind caught her end of the boat! She was determined to hang on to that line no matter what, but she could not physically do it after the wind caught the boat. So we had a little talk and the new instructions were to hang on and if something went wrong, she was to scream loudly so I would know and then she was to simply let go. Always prepare for the unexpected. I do most of my locking single-handed, so I use a pole with a clip on the end, to pass a loop behind the pipe or cable, and then I catch it with a 2nd pole hook and pull it in as the clip pulls loose. My very first locking was much too exciting, the lock operator gave very bad & wrong instructions and the boat ahead of me broke loose and hit the opposite wall very hard. My 2nd locking was just fine, but on my 3rd locking, one gate was broken, and I had to get my 14 foot wide boat thru the narrow opening of one gate only with only 2-3 feet to spare on each side of my fenders. When entering the lock, always move all the way in. You never know when another boat will suddenly appear. The first lockings may be a bit exciting, but then it becomes routine and no big deal. Not to worry! When I do it, I hook up to a pipe or cable, and then go make coffee. Fred Tug 44 ---------------------------------------- From: "Craig Marshall" <craighmarshall@yahoo.com> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:44 AM To: "great-loop@lists.trawlering.com" <great-loop@lists.trawlering.com> Subject: ... GL: Locking Thru the Erie I own a 28ft Hatteras Cruiser and plan on going solo. What issues should I expect locking through? I am planning on taking the lock line(s) at midships and walking back and forth to keep the boat close to wall. Both stb and port decks are wide and clear. Just not sure how much line is given at the locks. Knowing that there are a few locks at Waterford (E2-E7), it can get very labor intensive. Can I get assistance from the LM if need be in locating some local help? Are there any other areas that may require added assistance? Thanks Craig Marshall Lil' Hatt _________
MA
MY ALLEZ
Tue, Oct 2, 2012 2:15 PM

Fred:
Tharks for the info. The kind of stuff you mention is never in the books on Locking
or in the Power Point Presentations. Your posting was good Meat & Potatoes.
 
We will be up you way in the spring of 2013
 
 
Thanks for your contritubtion
 
Bob

Capt Bob
Onboard ALLEZ! Lying Cocoa, FL
M/Y ALLEZ! MT50 WB
MTOA 2631 AGLCA 1969
USPS CHARLESTON S.C.
EMail: my_allez@yahoo.com

Fred: Tharks for the info. The kind of stuff you mention is never in the books on Locking or in the Power Point Presentations. Your posting was good Meat & Potatoes.   We will be up you way in the spring of 2013     Thanks for your contritubtion   Bob Capt Bob Onboard ALLEZ! Lying Cocoa, FL M/Y ALLEZ! MT50 WB MTOA 2631 AGLCA 1969 USPS CHARLESTON S.C. EMail: my_allez@yahoo.com
FC
Frank Condon
Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:46 PM

I don't want anybody (especially Fred) to think I'm the new authority, but I've been on the western Erie canal for at least one full month each year, for the past three years.  I've been to every city and know where everything is, provided they have 7 feet of draft at the wall.Tommy

Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 07:15:21 -0700
From: my_allez@yahoo.com
To: fred@tug44.org
CC: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: Re: GL: ...  Locking Thru the Erie

Fred:
Tharks for the info. The kind of stuff you mention is never in the books on Locking
or in the Power Point Presentations. Your posting was good Meat & Potatoes.

We will be up you way in the spring of 2013

Thanks for your contritubtion

Bob

Capt Bob
Onboard ALLEZ! Lying Cocoa, FL
M/Y ALLEZ! MT50 WB
MTOA 2631 AGLCA 1969
USPS CHARLESTON S.C.
EMail: my_allez@yahoo.com


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I don't want anybody (especially Fred) to think I'm the new authority, but I've been on the western Erie canal for at least one full month each year, for the past three years. I've been to every city and know where everything is, provided they have 7 feet of draft at the wall.Tommy > Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 07:15:21 -0700 > From: my_allez@yahoo.com > To: fred@tug44.org > CC: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com > Subject: Re: GL: ... Locking Thru the Erie > > Fred: > Tharks for the info. The kind of stuff you mention is never in the books on Locking > or in the Power Point Presentations. Your posting was good Meat & Potatoes. > > We will be up you way in the spring of 2013 > > > Thanks for your contritubtion > > Bob > > Capt Bob > Onboard ALLEZ! Lying Cocoa, FL > M/Y ALLEZ! MT50 WB > MTOA 2631 AGLCA 1969 > USPS CHARLESTON S.C. > EMail: my_allez@yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com