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Idlewild 04/09/06: Gun loaded and ready

GK
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Sun, Apr 9, 2006 7:27 AM

Date/time:                  Apr 9, 2006 12:00 local
Position at noon:        02029' S & 131004' E
Noon to noon:            171.5 nm
Avg. speed:                7.8  kts
Course bearing:            3520 T
Sea state & wx:            Calm seas wind 0 to
15 kts in the last 24, a lot of rain showers
Crew                          Ben, Brad, Kevin & Jim Farrell
Goal:                          Palau in 6 days

Remarks:

A few hours from Hatta we saw a fishing boat on
radar at 12 miles.  It was obviously drifting but
when we were almost abeam of it, and about 1 mile
away it started black smoke from exhaust and
quickly swung around and made a direct line to
cut us off.  We put on full power and doing 10
kts, but they were able to gain on us.  This was
a very aggressive and confrontational move on
their part, but we held our course and Kevin got
the gun out and loaded it so we could be prepared
for what they may chose.

They crossed our bow at 100 yards but didn't
stop.  Who knows, it is anybody's guess.  We felt
they had definite intentions to bully us at the
least and board us at the worst but when they saw
we were challenging them and also, many people
have commented that our boat has a distinct
military look, they decided to continue their
course.

We don't want to make too much of this incident,
but we need to be prepared always.  Indonesians
are generally very friendly and respectful.

Later last night we saw 2 ships, close together
on radar but with no lights, approaching on a
conflicting course.  When radar showed them 2
miles and still coming we changed our course 30
degrees to Starboard and they went by with plenty
of room.  We suspect they had no radar, but a
watch on their bow and would have taken
corrective action when they got closer to us if we
hadn't.

Light winds and calm seas, cruising at its best.

Ben, Brad, Kevin & Jim

Ben Gray
Idlewild
Custom Buehler 55 powered by a 55-hp Kubota
Home port: Dunvegan, Alberta
http://www.idlewildexpedition.ca/
http://dieselducks.com/Idelwild.html
http://www.trawlersandtrawlering.com/

Where to follow Idlewild if you have Google Earth
installed: http://tinyurl.com/ksnhg
For the JPEG version: http://tinyurl.com/ovdt7

Next destination: Palau
http://www.visit-palau.com/
http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/nytmaps.pl?palau

Date/time: Apr 9, 2006 12:00 local Position at noon: 02029' S & 131004' E Noon to noon: 171.5 nm Avg. speed: 7.8 kts Course bearing: 3520 T Sea state & wx: Calm seas wind 0 to 15 kts in the last 24, a lot of rain showers Crew Ben, Brad, Kevin & Jim Farrell Goal: Palau in 6 days Remarks: A few hours from Hatta we saw a fishing boat on radar at 12 miles. It was obviously drifting but when we were almost abeam of it, and about 1 mile away it started black smoke from exhaust and quickly swung around and made a direct line to cut us off. We put on full power and doing 10 kts, but they were able to gain on us. This was a very aggressive and confrontational move on their part, but we held our course and Kevin got the gun out and loaded it so we could be prepared for what they may chose. They crossed our bow at 100 yards but didn't stop. Who knows, it is anybody's guess. We felt they had definite intentions to bully us at the least and board us at the worst but when they saw we were challenging them and also, many people have commented that our boat has a distinct military look, they decided to continue their course. We don't want to make too much of this incident, but we need to be prepared always. Indonesians are generally very friendly and respectful. Later last night we saw 2 ships, close together on radar but with no lights, approaching on a conflicting course. When radar showed them 2 miles and still coming we changed our course 30 degrees to Starboard and they went by with plenty of room. We suspect they had no radar, but a watch on their bow and would have taken corrective action when they got closer to us if we hadn't. Light winds and calm seas, cruising at its best. Ben, Brad, Kevin & Jim -- Ben Gray Idlewild Custom Buehler 55 powered by a 55-hp Kubota Home port: Dunvegan, Alberta http://www.idlewildexpedition.ca/ http://dieselducks.com/Idelwild.html http://www.trawlersandtrawlering.com/ Where to follow Idlewild if you have Google Earth installed: http://tinyurl.com/ksnhg For the JPEG version: http://tinyurl.com/ovdt7 Next destination: Palau http://www.visit-palau.com/ http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/nytmaps.pl?palau
N
Nunas
Sun, Apr 9, 2006 6:57 PM

We've been though Indonesia many times.  Such behavior is not at all
unusual.  Nor is what appears to be shadowing; we've had fishing boats
follow us for miles.  Once we had them going round and round us while we
were at anchor...felt like Custer must have at the Little Big Horn.  At
first, we too were worried.  While there may be dangerous situations out
there, we've never had any trouble.  We believe that these antics of the
locals are more due to curiosity and boredom than belligerence.  On the
other hand, we have had two midnight boardings by locals in dug-out canoes;
both of which were sorted out by our intrusion alarms.  The locals have seen
lots of guns but have little experience with alarms going off when they
creep aboard.

Now, as for the gun, we have no personal experience (we are unarmed).  But,
we lived in SE Asia for years and have heard lots of dock-side stories.  You
will, of course, do what you want, but our advice is to float test the gun.
There have been cruisers thrown in jail and released only after some very
strange circumstances for carrying guns without permission (which permission
you won't get) in Indonesia.

Cheers,
Maurice
MV AKAMA

-----Original Message-----
From: Georgs Kolesnikovs [mailto:georgs@trawlersandtrawlering.com]
Sent: Sunday, 09 April 2006 19:27
To: Passagemaking Under Power List
Subject: [PUP] Idlewild 04/09/06: Gun loaded and ready

Date/time:                  Apr 9, 2006 12:00 local
Position at noon:        02029' S & 131004' E
Noon to noon:            171.5 nm
Avg. speed:                7.8  kts
Course bearing:            3520 T
Sea state & wx:            Calm seas wind 0 to
15 kts in the last 24, a lot of rain showers
Crew                          Ben, Brad, Kevin & Jim Farrell
Goal:                          Palau in 6 days

Remarks:

A few hours from Hatta we saw a fishing boat on
radar at 12 miles.  It was obviously drifting but
when we were almost abeam of it, and about 1 mile
away it started black smoke from exhaust and
quickly swung around and made a direct line to
cut us off.  We put on full power and doing 10
kts, but they were able to gain on us.  This was
a very aggressive and confrontational move on
their part, but we held our course and Kevin got
the gun out and loaded it so we could be prepared
for what they may chose.

They crossed our bow at 100 yards but didn't
stop.  Who knows, it is anybody's guess.  We felt
they had definite intentions to bully us at the
least and board us at the worst but when they saw
we were challenging them and also, many people
have commented that our boat has a distinct
military look, they decided to continue their
course.

We don't want to make too much of this incident,
but we need to be prepared always.  Indonesians
are generally very friendly and respectful.

Later last night we saw 2 ships, close together
on radar but with no lights, approaching on a
conflicting course.  When radar showed them 2
miles and still coming we changed our course 30
degrees to Starboard and they went by with plenty
of room.  We suspect they had no radar, but a
watch on their bow and would have taken
corrective action when they got closer to us if we
hadn't.

Light winds and calm seas, cruising at its best.

Ben, Brad, Kevin & Jim

Ben Gray
Idlewild
Custom Buehler 55 powered by a 55-hp Kubota
Home port: Dunvegan, Alberta
http://www.idlewildexpedition.ca/
http://dieselducks.com/Idelwild.html
http://www.trawlersandtrawlering.com/

Where to follow Idlewild if you have Google Earth
installed: http://tinyurl.com/ksnhg
For the JPEG version: http://tinyurl.com/ovdt7

Next destination: Palau
http://www.visit-palau.com/
http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/nytmaps.pl?palau


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We've been though Indonesia many times. Such behavior is not at all unusual. Nor is what appears to be shadowing; we've had fishing boats follow us for miles. Once we had them going round and round us while we were at anchor...felt like Custer must have at the Little Big Horn. At first, we too were worried. While there may be dangerous situations out there, we've never had any trouble. We believe that these antics of the locals are more due to curiosity and boredom than belligerence. On the other hand, we have had two midnight boardings by locals in dug-out canoes; both of which were sorted out by our intrusion alarms. The locals have seen lots of guns but have little experience with alarms going off when they creep aboard. Now, as for the gun, we have no personal experience (we are unarmed). But, we lived in SE Asia for years and have heard lots of dock-side stories. You will, of course, do what you want, but our advice is to float test the gun. There have been cruisers thrown in jail and released only after some very strange circumstances for carrying guns without permission (which permission you won't get) in Indonesia. Cheers, Maurice MV AKAMA -----Original Message----- From: Georgs Kolesnikovs [mailto:georgs@trawlersandtrawlering.com] Sent: Sunday, 09 April 2006 19:27 To: Passagemaking Under Power List Subject: [PUP] Idlewild 04/09/06: Gun loaded and ready Date/time: Apr 9, 2006 12:00 local Position at noon: 02029' S & 131004' E Noon to noon: 171.5 nm Avg. speed: 7.8 kts Course bearing: 3520 T Sea state & wx: Calm seas wind 0 to 15 kts in the last 24, a lot of rain showers Crew Ben, Brad, Kevin & Jim Farrell Goal: Palau in 6 days Remarks: A few hours from Hatta we saw a fishing boat on radar at 12 miles. It was obviously drifting but when we were almost abeam of it, and about 1 mile away it started black smoke from exhaust and quickly swung around and made a direct line to cut us off. We put on full power and doing 10 kts, but they were able to gain on us. This was a very aggressive and confrontational move on their part, but we held our course and Kevin got the gun out and loaded it so we could be prepared for what they may chose. They crossed our bow at 100 yards but didn't stop. Who knows, it is anybody's guess. We felt they had definite intentions to bully us at the least and board us at the worst but when they saw we were challenging them and also, many people have commented that our boat has a distinct military look, they decided to continue their course. We don't want to make too much of this incident, but we need to be prepared always. Indonesians are generally very friendly and respectful. Later last night we saw 2 ships, close together on radar but with no lights, approaching on a conflicting course. When radar showed them 2 miles and still coming we changed our course 30 degrees to Starboard and they went by with plenty of room. We suspect they had no radar, but a watch on their bow and would have taken corrective action when they got closer to us if we hadn't. Light winds and calm seas, cruising at its best. Ben, Brad, Kevin & Jim -- Ben Gray Idlewild Custom Buehler 55 powered by a 55-hp Kubota Home port: Dunvegan, Alberta http://www.idlewildexpedition.ca/ http://dieselducks.com/Idelwild.html http://www.trawlersandtrawlering.com/ Where to follow Idlewild if you have Google Earth installed: http://tinyurl.com/ksnhg For the JPEG version: http://tinyurl.com/ovdt7 Next destination: Palau http://www.visit-palau.com/ http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/nytmaps.pl?palau _______________________________________________ Passagemaking-Under-Power Mailing List
JH
John Harris
Sun, Apr 9, 2006 10:03 PM

I suspect that there is a MUCH bigger chance that the fishermen want to swap
some fish for cigarettes or whatever else you would like to trade.  I don't
know a good way to tell the difference - but any assumption to the contrary
is way off the norm.

John Harris - based on true life experience of 2001 on several occasions in
the area.

I suspect that there is a MUCH bigger chance that the fishermen want to swap some fish for cigarettes or whatever else you would like to trade. I don't know a good way to tell the difference - but any assumption to the contrary is way off the norm. John Harris - based on true life experience of 2001 on several occasions in the area.
K
Keith
Mon, Apr 10, 2006 10:35 AM

Maurice, please tell us more about your intrusion alarms.

Keith


I! Finally! Figured! Out! How! To! Punctuate! Kirk's! Sentences!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nunas" nunas@nunas.com

On the

other hand, we have had two midnight boardings by locals in dug-out
canoes;
both of which were sorted out by our intrusion alarms.  The locals have
seen
lots of guns but have little experience with alarms going off when they
creep aboard.

Maurice, please tell us more about your intrusion alarms. Keith _____ I! Finally! Figured! Out! How! To! Punctuate! Kirk's! Sentences! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nunas" <nunas@nunas.com> On the > other hand, we have had two midnight boardings by locals in dug-out > canoes; > both of which were sorted out by our intrusion alarms. The locals have > seen > lots of guns but have little experience with alarms going off when they > creep aboard.