TOMCAT 24 POWERCAT ?Re: Trailerable Pilothouse Catamaran? reply fom JCK

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FABIAN SWINGER
Sat, Dec 31, 2005 10:04 PM

I also would like a MacGregor 26, but it has the defect of lacking an
enclosed helm station.

Anothter powercat with enclosed helm would be the TOMCAT 24,but it
uses twin outboards,and is quite expensive in my country, so, a
diesel option would be better

Anyway..- is there an AFFORDABLE trailerable motorsailor that is also
a multihull ?

The Contour 34 sc is a folding sailing trimaran that can be  purchased
with a hardtop,but is expensive and not a motorsailor..

from  Montevideo,Uruguay
FABIAN

On 12/31/05, comfordent@aol.com comfordent@aol.com wrote:

Jim: Bob Deering's comments appear spot on, at least for the present.
If you tow much over 4500 lbs.,  towing, launching and retrieving will
require at least a 3/4 ton truck, best in diesel with 4 WD.  We briefly
considered the 26' Glacier Bay power cat. Its hulls are wide; decent
performance requires @ least 250 H.P. It does not 'trawl' well.
Accomodations/ galley are minimal. Weight is about 10K# with trailer;
one needs a one ton to tow this, and then not great distances.
As jubilados (retired ones in Spanish) and boating newcomers (read
fairweather sailors),we want a boat towable behind our Ford F150, easy
to launch and sail.  We're spoiled by the comfort level of the 150.
We've decided to go with a 26' MacGregor powersailer
(www.macgregor26.com).  We plan to travel far and wide in the next
years, possibly eventually doing parts of the Loop minus locks and
waterways. Winters we'll use it at our winter casita on the Sea of
Cortez @ Bahia de Kino, Sonora, MX.
When and if we sell our home in the states, we'll look at the powercat
market which I'm following thanks to Georgs and this site. This will
become our summer home.  Lots 'o nifty designs will be a few years old
or more by then, and a bit kess of a bite
BTW: for the PNW, Bob might agree that protected prop(s)/rudders are
the way to go.  While on a twin screw in the San Juans in Sept., we ran
over an almost submerged invisible log  (confused seas) that bent the
port prop enough to knock against the rudder post! No water in the
boat, but we got a bit of a fright. The charter firm was quite helpful,
we tied off the port shaft and eased back to Anacortes.  No more bare
naked shafts/props for me!

-Original Message-----
From: Jim Garner jimgarner1@earthlink.net
To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 07:13:50 -0800
Subject: [PCW] Trailerable Pilothouse Catamaran?

I am about 10 years away from an intended trip from
Los Angeles, up the West Coast to S. E. Alaska through
the Inside Passage.

I am considering both trailerable and berthed vessels.

With all the uncertainty of future pension benefits
and Social Security in question for some of us, I am
scaling back my budget to $50,000.00 +/- for a used
boat - or about $500.00 monthly. I calculate that at
that price a trailerable boat could be financed for
about what the slip fee alone would be for a berth
down here in the Los Angeles area where I live. The
boat payment and slip fees for a berthed vessel could
easily double that to $1,000.00 monthly.

Here are my requirements for this project:

Trailerable - 10 feet or less wide
Easy to launch
Easy to set up the sail - stepped mast. I have done
some sailing. I owned a 14 West Wight Potter. However,
I motored it more than I sailed since I mostly fish at
dawn, and generally there is no wind to sail until
about 10 to 11 am in these waters, and the fishing is
generally over by then. The idea of a sailing when
favorable conditions are present is compelling to keep
costs down.

Desired features include:

Unobstructed area in cockpit for 2 to fish or do some
crabbing. Preferably with a flat deck.
Quarters for 2 Pilothouse Dual or Triple steering
stations with cockpit controls so boat can be
maneuvered while fishing.
Standing shower/head.
Heating and AC Limited galley Long range - speed is
not an issue. Great fuel economy is.
I would like a 300 - 400 mile range under power if
possible.

My preference is a Catamaran since they would have
optimum available space for boat length, shallow
draft, and extremely stable while at rest. However, I
am not aware of any Catamaran that meets these
requirements.

Any suggestions and recommendations would be
appreciated.

Happy New Year to all.

Sincerely,
Jim Garner

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I also would like a MacGregor 26, but it has the defect of lacking an enclosed helm station. Anothter powercat with enclosed helm would be the TOMCAT 24,but it uses twin outboards,and is quite expensive in my country, so, a diesel option would be better Anyway..- is there an AFFORDABLE trailerable motorsailor that is also a multihull ? The Contour 34 sc is a folding sailing trimaran that can be purchased with a hardtop,but is expensive and not a motorsailor.. from Montevideo,Uruguay FABIAN On 12/31/05, comfordent@aol.com <comfordent@aol.com> wrote: > Jim: Bob Deering's comments appear spot on, at least for the present. > If you tow much over 4500 lbs., towing, launching and retrieving will > require at least a 3/4 ton truck, best in diesel with 4 WD. We briefly > considered the 26' Glacier Bay power cat. Its hulls are wide; decent > performance requires @ least 250 H.P. It does not 'trawl' well. > Accomodations/ galley are minimal. Weight is about 10K# with trailer; > one needs a one ton to tow this, and then not great distances. > As jubilados (retired ones in Spanish) and boating newcomers (read > fairweather sailors),we want a boat towable behind our Ford F150, easy > to launch and sail. We're spoiled by the comfort level of the 150. > We've decided to go with a 26' MacGregor powersailer > (www.macgregor26.com). We plan to travel far and wide in the next > years, possibly eventually doing parts of the Loop minus locks and > waterways. Winters we'll use it at our winter casita on the Sea of > Cortez @ Bahia de Kino, Sonora, MX. > When and if we sell our home in the states, we'll look at the powercat > market which I'm following thanks to Georgs and this site. This will > become our summer home. Lots 'o nifty designs will be a few years old > or more by then, and a bit kess of a bite > BTW: for the PNW, Bob might agree that protected prop(s)/rudders are > the way to go. While on a twin screw in the San Juans in Sept., we ran > over an almost submerged invisible log (confused seas) that bent the > port prop enough to knock against the rudder post! No water in the > boat, but we got a bit of a fright. The charter firm was quite helpful, > we tied off the port shaft and eased back to Anacortes. No more bare > naked shafts/props for me! > > -Original Message----- > From: Jim Garner <jimgarner1@earthlink.net> > To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com > Sent: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 07:13:50 -0800 > Subject: [PCW] Trailerable Pilothouse Catamaran? > > I am about 10 years away from an intended trip from > Los Angeles, up the West Coast to S. E. Alaska through > the Inside Passage. > > I am considering both trailerable and berthed vessels. > > With all the uncertainty of future pension benefits > and Social Security in question for some of us, I am > scaling back my budget to $50,000.00 +/- for a used > boat - or about $500.00 monthly. I calculate that at > that price a trailerable boat could be financed for > about what the slip fee alone would be for a berth > down here in the Los Angeles area where I live. The > boat payment and slip fees for a berthed vessel could > easily double that to $1,000.00 monthly. > > Here are my requirements for this project: > > Trailerable - 10 feet or less wide > Easy to launch > Easy to set up the sail - stepped mast. I have done > some sailing. I owned a 14 West Wight Potter. However, > I motored it more than I sailed since I mostly fish at > dawn, and generally there is no wind to sail until > about 10 to 11 am in these waters, and the fishing is > generally over by then. The idea of a sailing when > favorable conditions are present is compelling to keep > costs down. > > Desired features include: > > Unobstructed area in cockpit for 2 to fish or do some > crabbing. Preferably with a flat deck. > Quarters for 2 Pilothouse Dual or Triple steering > stations with cockpit controls so boat can be > maneuvered while fishing. > Standing shower/head. > Heating and AC Limited galley Long range - speed is > not an issue. Great fuel economy is. > I would like a 300 - 400 mile range under power if > possible. > > My preference is a Catamaran since they would have > optimum available space for boat length, shallow > draft, and extremely stable while at rest. However, I > am not aware of any Catamaran that meets these > requirements. > > Any suggestions and recommendations would be > appreciated. > > Happy New Year to all. > > Sincerely, > Jim Garner > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/217 - > Release Date: 12/30/2005 > > > _______________________________________________ > Power-Catamaran Mailing List > > > _______________________________________________ > Power-Catamaran Mailing List >