Re: [PCW] Aerocat Marine

GK
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Wed, Mar 4, 2009 12:19 PM

Rich--

After visiting the builder, please post your findings on the List so
we all learn something.

--Georgs

Bob,
My name is Rich Pukal I live in Pittsburgh ,PA .
I feel the same way as you. I live 125 miles from there building
And have a apt for 03 10 to look over there boats and talk about the
Trawler they will be email me a design that we went over on the phone.
I would be more then happy to keep you in the loop on what we take about and
what I
See on the 03 10 .
Please drop me a note if this is ok with you.
Rich
Rich Pukall

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[mailto:power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com]On Behalf Of Robert
Deering
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 10:39 AM
To: PCW List
Subject: Re: [PCW] Aerocat Marine

Georgs,

Have never heard of these guys before, but I like what I see on their
website a lot.  I like the attitude I'm seeing too - 'can-do' and lots of
flexibility.  Looks like they're doing some sort of panelized
stitch-and-clue construction method which makes sense for this kind of
design.

Building with Nidacore doesn't concern me that much, especially since they
are using 100% epoxy.  The advantage in weight reduction is substantial.
The hull prices are fantastic, though of course the real expense is in the
'rest' of the boat.

A few notes of caution:

  1. The discussion of the 'air cushion' between the hulls is mostly bogus in
    my opinion.  I've seen it from other cat builders too.  A boat running 25
    knots simply does not pressurize enough air in the tunnel to have a
    meaningful impact on the ride in my opinion - I'd ask for some proof of
    their claim.

  2. The pocket trawler hull.  I'm dubious.  Looks like just a standard cat
    planing hull, but hard to see from the website.  It looks like the steering
    station is very far forward - in any kind of rough water you'll be taking a
    beating, cat hull or not.  And cat planing hulls are not good performers at
    displacement speeds in rough water - the tunnel is too low and it doesn't
    track well.

  3. 8'-6" is too narrow for a 26' cat IMO.  The relatively narrow beam
    sacrifices many of the cat advantages in space and stability.  But a 20'
    center console that was 8'-6" wide would be outstanding.

Bob Deering
Juneau, Alaska

On 3/1/09 5:47 AM, "Georgs Kolesnikovs" georgs@powercatamaranworld.com
wrote:

Anyone know anything about Aerocat Marine or Ken Handman? Anyone have
an opinion on what is offered at http://www.aerocatboats.com/?

--Georgs

What do you know of AeroCat Marine? They are up in Pennsylvania.

They make the hulls out of Nida Core with epoxied glass over it. You
can get just the raw hull and finish your self or they will finish
it.

I am concerned at the use of the Nida Core for all parts of the
boat. This is different than most.

What do you think of them?

http://www.aerocatboats.comwww.aerocatboats.com

I look forward to your response.

I am actually looking for an 18 to 20 ft Cat to use off the West
Coast of Florida around Tampa Bay and out into the Gulf of
Mexico.....any recommendations?

John


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Rich-- After visiting the builder, please post your findings on the List so we all learn something. --Georgs >Bob, >My name is Rich Pukal I live in Pittsburgh ,PA . >I feel the same way as you. I live 125 miles from there building >And have a apt for 03 10 to look over there boats and talk about the >Trawler they will be email me a design that we went over on the phone. >I would be more then happy to keep you in the loop on what we take about and >what I >See on the 03 10 . >Please drop me a note if this is ok with you. >Rich >Rich Pukall > >-----Original Message----- >From: power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com >[mailto:power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com]On Behalf Of Robert >Deering >Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 10:39 AM >To: PCW List >Subject: Re: [PCW] Aerocat Marine > >Georgs, > >Have never heard of these guys before, but I like what I see on their >website a lot. I like the attitude I'm seeing too - 'can-do' and lots of >flexibility. Looks like they're doing some sort of panelized >stitch-and-clue construction method which makes sense for this kind of >design. > >Building with Nidacore doesn't concern me that much, especially since they >are using 100% epoxy. The advantage in weight reduction is substantial. >The hull prices are fantastic, though of course the real expense is in the >'rest' of the boat. > >A few notes of caution: > >1. The discussion of the 'air cushion' between the hulls is mostly bogus in >my opinion. I've seen it from other cat builders too. A boat running 25 >knots simply does not pressurize enough air in the tunnel to have a >meaningful impact on the ride in my opinion - I'd ask for some proof of >their claim. > >2. The pocket trawler hull. I'm dubious. Looks like just a standard cat >planing hull, but hard to see from the website. It looks like the steering >station is very far forward - in any kind of rough water you'll be taking a >beating, cat hull or not. And cat planing hulls are not good performers at >displacement speeds in rough water - the tunnel is too low and it doesn't >track well. > >3. 8'-6" is too narrow for a 26' cat IMO. The relatively narrow beam >sacrifices many of the cat advantages in space and stability. But a 20' >center console that was 8'-6" wide would be outstanding. > >Bob Deering >Juneau, Alaska > > >On 3/1/09 5:47 AM, "Georgs Kolesnikovs" <georgs@powercatamaranworld.com> >wrote: > >> Anyone know anything about Aerocat Marine or Ken Handman? Anyone have >> an opinion on what is offered at <http://www.aerocatboats.com/>? >> >> --Georgs >> >>> What do you know of AeroCat Marine? They are up in Pennsylvania. >>> >>> They make the hulls out of Nida Core with epoxied glass over it. You >>> can get just the raw hull and finish your self or they will finish >>> it. >>> >>> I am concerned at the use of the Nida Core for all parts of the >>> boat. This is different than most. >>> >>> What do you think of them? >>> >>> <http://www.aerocatboats.com>www.aerocatboats.com >>> >>> I look forward to your response. >>> >>> I am actually looking for an 18 to 20 ft Cat to use off the West >>> Coast of Florida around Tampa Bay and out into the Gulf of >>> Mexico.....any recommendations? >>> >>> John >> _______________________________________________ >> Power-Catamaran Mailing List >_______________________________________________ >Power-Catamaran Mailing List >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.7/1982 - Release Date: 03/03/09 >16:09:00 > > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Power-Catamaran Mailing List > >End of Power-Catamaran Digest, Vol 47, Issue 3 >**********************************************