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Man Overboard Recovary at Sea

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bob Austin
Tue, Feb 27, 2007 6:33 AM

I am not aware of any of the safety harness/inflatable colors PDF's being
adequate for hoisting aboard without a crotch strap.  I checked the Mustang
web site and found that the PFD's "Integrated Sailing Harness
The integrated sailing harness is incredibly lightweight and exceeds ORC
standards. "  Nothing about lifting.  I own two SOS harness/PDF and they are
good harnesses almost identical to the Mustang units.  I have Personal EPRIB
and Strobes on the harness/PDF.  I also carry a submersiable VHF radio on the
jacket or harness/PDF I wear.

When we were offshore racing, each member of the crew had their own safety
harness, with a crotch strap, and two tethers attatched--safety release with
spinaker strap at the D ring of the harness.  These were to be warn at all
times you came on deck, clipped on to a dead eye or jack line.  With two
tethers (Long and short) at least one was to be clipped on at all times.

We have done a number of hoists aboard (wet suits with the wife doing the
hoist)--we don not recommend a stern lift on a power boat with a swim step.
We found that side lifts were much safer.  Consider what happens when the swim
step (which is often going up and own several feet or more, hits the victum.)

Your proceedure puts your wife at risk--and that is not a good idea.  (first
don't go over board--I did when I was 10 and never since!) You want to have a
lifesling, have your wife tow it around you (also there are safety alarms
which hook into the navigation system to alert the off watch person--remember
that one of you may be sleeping).  When you have the life sling--the sling is
pulled to the boat--from a postion where your wife is safe, also clipped
securely on.  We had a device where the lifting hook was attatched to a float,
and a boat hook could snag it, and bring it to the lifting mechanism.  Your
wife is not going to get down anywhere near the water and help you--until you
are coming over the side of the boat.

Also be careful of remotes--I had one on a davit motor engage when left in the
weather (rain moisture--worse in salt water).

Again, beware of the swim step, your ability to get into a net or the ability
of your spouse to get the net to roll you onto a step.  Even if you are on a
step you may not be able to get thru the door after the exhaustion of falling
over board and trying to swim with clothes and boots on etc.....

I suggest that you read all of the sections of the 2005 Crew Overboard Rescue
Symposium  http://www.ussailing.org/safety/Studies/COB.pdf

Some background is at: http://www.cobevent.com/id5.html

If you read thru all of this, it will give you some better ideas as to what
the problems are.  What I have outlined above are close to the general
conclusions.

Regards,
Bob Austin

I am not aware of any of the safety harness/inflatable colors PDF's being adequate for hoisting aboard without a crotch strap. I checked the Mustang web site and found that the PFD's "Integrated Sailing Harness The integrated sailing harness is incredibly lightweight and exceeds ORC standards. " Nothing about lifting. I own two SOS harness/PDF and they are good harnesses almost identical to the Mustang units. I have Personal EPRIB and Strobes on the harness/PDF. I also carry a submersiable VHF radio on the jacket or harness/PDF I wear. When we were offshore racing, each member of the crew had their own safety harness, with a crotch strap, and two tethers attatched--safety release with spinaker strap at the D ring of the harness. These were to be warn at all times you came on deck, clipped on to a dead eye or jack line. With two tethers (Long and short) at least one was to be clipped on at all times. We have done a number of hoists aboard (wet suits with the wife doing the hoist)--we don not recommend a stern lift on a power boat with a swim step. We found that side lifts were much safer. Consider what happens when the swim step (which is often going up and own several feet or more, hits the victum.) Your proceedure puts your wife at risk--and that is not a good idea. (first don't go over board--I did when I was 10 and never since!) You want to have a lifesling, have your wife tow it around you (also there are safety alarms which hook into the navigation system to alert the off watch person--remember that one of you may be sleeping). When you have the life sling--the sling is pulled to the boat--from a postion where your wife is safe, also clipped securely on. We had a device where the lifting hook was attatched to a float, and a boat hook could snag it, and bring it to the lifting mechanism. Your wife is not going to get down anywhere near the water and help you--until you are coming over the side of the boat. Also be careful of remotes--I had one on a davit motor engage when left in the weather (rain moisture--worse in salt water). Again, beware of the swim step, your ability to get into a net or the ability of your spouse to get the net to roll you onto a step. Even if you are on a step you may not be able to get thru the door after the exhaustion of falling over board and trying to swim with clothes and boots on etc..... I suggest that you read all of the sections of the 2005 Crew Overboard Rescue Symposium http://www.ussailing.org/safety/Studies/COB.pdf Some background is at: http://www.cobevent.com/id5.html If you read thru all of this, it will give you some better ideas as to what the problems are. What I have outlined above are close to the general conclusions. Regards, Bob Austin