Greetings all,
In my intro a few days ago I stated that I'm working on the hull design
for a 45 foot powercat (personal use, home built - quite shaking your
head and grinning Rod Gibbons).
I was leaning heavily towards controllable pitch props but have recently
started to consider stern drives - an idea that I never really thought
too much of before. Here are my thoughts:
- The boat will have a relatively fast cruising speed of maybe 20
kts, top speed 25 kts or higher. Those kinds of operating speeds are in
the optimal design range for stern drives, which typically are targeted
towards planning hulls.
- I want to be able to beach the boat on occasion - difficult to
do with shafts & props & rudders hanging down there, though it is
possible to design for that.
- I'm paranoid about damage to the running gear - lots of logs and
even ice up here in SE Alaska. I feel a sterndrive is better protected.
- I'm also paranoid about fouling my gear on the many crab lines
and fishing nets here - taking a swim in these waters to free a prop
just does not appeal at all, any time of year.
- My understanding is that a sterndrive has about 15% greater
efficiency/lower drag due to no appendages from shafts & bearings.
- I can raise one outdrive and operate on a single engine with
lower drag (though slower obviously).
- I have the ability to adjust the boat's trim underway.
- Design and installation are considerably simpler in my mind. A
transom is pretty easy to design and carries the load vs worrying about
thrust blocks, shaft alignment, stuffing boxes etc.
- I can inspect and even repair things without necessarily having
to haul the boat.
- And finally, the new Volvo sterndrive packages are really nicely
integrated from prop to steering wheel. Everything's pretty much plug
n' play which simplifies my life and speeds things up. I hear good
things about their new generation common rail diesel engine.
So obviously there must be some fatal flaws in my logic or everyone else
would offer sterndrive models. What are they? A few of the possible
negatives that come to my mind are:
- Sterndrives are expensive. True story, though that's offset
somewhat by not having to install rudders, shafts, etc. Initial cost is
not the only consideration here.
- Sterndrives require more maintenance and aren't as reliable.
True, and I'm still grappling with that.
- The weight of the drive and engine sit far astern which is
difficult to compensate for in a catamaran and may lead to pitching
issues. Yes, I'm learning that as I play with my longitudinal COG and
COF. The jury's still out whether I can compensate for it, but I think
so.
- In big water the stern of the boat may rise clear of the water
enough that the props will ventilate. That is a big concern, though I'm
not sure how valid. This is a coastal cruiser - I'm not motoring to
Hawaii where I would routinely be in big swell. Typically the biggest
water I'd be running in is a 5-6 ft chop. This is a displacement hull
with pretty narrow hull beams (L/B ratio is 16) so it should ride with
well submerged hulls. I'm minimizing rocker. Am I looking for trouble
here?
- Prop diameter on sterndrives is too small. Maybe, but at higher
running speeds smaller diameters become more appropriate. Using
duoprops adds about 75% more prop area to help mitigate that too.
So if any of you can provide any insights on this I would be most
grateful. Thank you!
Bob Deering
Greetings all,
In my intro a few days ago I stated that I'm working on the hull design
for a 45 foot powercat (personal use, home built - quite shaking your
head and grinning Rod Gibbons).
I was leaning heavily towards controllable pitch props but have recently
started to consider stern drives - an idea that I never really thought
too much of before. Here are my thoughts:
1. The boat will have a relatively fast cruising speed of maybe 20
kts, top speed 25 kts or higher. Those kinds of operating speeds are in
the optimal design range for stern drives, which typically are targeted
towards planning hulls.
2. I want to be able to beach the boat on occasion - difficult to
do with shafts & props & rudders hanging down there, though it is
possible to design for that.
3. I'm paranoid about damage to the running gear - lots of logs and
even ice up here in SE Alaska. I feel a sterndrive is better protected.
4. I'm also paranoid about fouling my gear on the many crab lines
and fishing nets here - taking a swim in these waters to free a prop
just does not appeal at all, any time of year.
5. My understanding is that a sterndrive has about 15% greater
efficiency/lower drag due to no appendages from shafts & bearings.
6. I can raise one outdrive and operate on a single engine with
lower drag (though slower obviously).
7. I have the ability to adjust the boat's trim underway.
8. Design and installation are considerably simpler in my mind. A
transom is pretty easy to design and carries the load vs worrying about
thrust blocks, shaft alignment, stuffing boxes etc.
9. I can inspect and even repair things without necessarily having
to haul the boat.
10. And finally, the new Volvo sterndrive packages are really nicely
integrated from prop to steering wheel. Everything's pretty much plug
n' play which simplifies my life and speeds things up. I hear good
things about their new generation common rail diesel engine.
So obviously there must be some fatal flaws in my logic or everyone else
would offer sterndrive models. What are they? A few of the possible
negatives that come to my mind are:
1. Sterndrives are expensive. True story, though that's offset
somewhat by not having to install rudders, shafts, etc. Initial cost is
not the only consideration here.
2. Sterndrives require more maintenance and aren't as reliable.
True, and I'm still grappling with that.
3. The weight of the drive and engine sit far astern which is
difficult to compensate for in a catamaran and may lead to pitching
issues. Yes, I'm learning that as I play with my longitudinal COG and
COF. The jury's still out whether I can compensate for it, but I think
so.
4. In big water the stern of the boat may rise clear of the water
enough that the props will ventilate. That is a big concern, though I'm
not sure how valid. This is a coastal cruiser - I'm not motoring to
Hawaii where I would routinely be in big swell. Typically the biggest
water I'd be running in is a 5-6 ft chop. This is a displacement hull
with pretty narrow hull beams (L/B ratio is 16) so it should ride with
well submerged hulls. I'm minimizing rocker. Am I looking for trouble
here?
5. Prop diameter on sterndrives is too small. Maybe, but at higher
running speeds smaller diameters become more appropriate. Using
duoprops adds about 75% more prop area to help mitigate that too.
So if any of you can provide any insights on this I would be most
grateful. Thank you!
Bob Deering