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Re: GL: old 1 lung steam or diesel boats

D
DavidDoy@aol.com
Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:09 AM

We had a great time traveling with Tug Urger as we came back down the Erie
last year. We shared a couple overnight ports with her and crew. Quite a
process  to watch as they have to shut the engine off and re-position the
camshaft before  starting back up to change direction forward or reverse. A
beautiful piece of  machinery, hand oiled and all. Remembered the captain (
Wendy I believe  ) explaining to us how she maneuvered in and out of locks, She
is good, and  fun to watch. Don't miss if you get the chance.
Enjoyed watching the "Steamers" Fred. I remember many years ago my dad's
friend had a tractor that ran off steam from a wood fired boiler. They kept
stacks in the fields for "refueling". Years later I was a boilerman in the
Navy.  I still get steamed now and then.
Enjoy the Erie, can't wait to get back.
David Doyle MTOA# 4256
www.CruisingTheGreatLoop.com (http://www.CruisingTheGreatLoop.com)

In a message dated 11/19/2013 11:52:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
fred@tug44.org writes:

There  are a number of old slow running engines in active duty on the NY
Canals.  Tug Urger, the prettiest of them all, runs at around 300  rpm.
Though her 20 ton engine produces only about 300  HP.

http://www.tug44.org/canal.corp.boats/tug-urger/

Come to the  tugboat Roundup in Waterford next September and you'll see
several like  that.

Fred
Tug  44


From: "bob"  relder@cape.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 8:13 AM
To:  fred@tug44.org, great-loop@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: Re: GL: old 1 lung  steam or diesel boats

Hi Fred,

Thanks for  responding.  I guess steam is not want I want.  I have a
CD of old engine sounds, and with slight variations, they  sound like
donk--donk-donk--donk--donk when they  run.  Probably just a dream,    but
I would love to  do the loop with an old boat with one of those    old
slow
running engines.  Anyway, sort of dreaming and fishing for  info.
Probably diesel I am looking for.

Thanks...bob

On 11/18/2013 11:38 PM,  fred@tug44.org      wrote:
Bob,

I can tell you a bit  about wood-fired steam engines, including
that they use a tremendous amount of fuel.  A few years ago I
had 20 small steamers overnighting at my  docks.  I got them two
dump trucks  full of firewood, and it only powered them for a day      or
two down the canal.  An unfinished page from that  day:

http://www.tug44.org/waterford.tugboat.roundup/steamboat-meet/

And my friend Capt Bill has one too:

http://www.tug44.org/tugboats.trawlers/african-queen/

Most small steam engines are 2-cylinder.  The steam goes to  the
first cylinder and as it gets  exhausted it goes to a larger
cylinder  which uses up the left over power in the steam.  That      2nd
cylinder is larger because the steam it receives is  cooler        and not
as high pressure.  This arrangement increases          efficiency.

They still burn a ridiculous  amount of fuel, but they do give
the  advantage that you can cook your food right inside the
firebox.

The engines all  run almost completely silent.  Just a little
mechanical clatter is all you hear.  And you feel the heat from
the boiler.

Fred
Tug  44


From: "bob"    relder@cape.com
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 10:03 PM
To: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: GL: old 1 lung steam or diesel boats

Greetings all,
Sort of  fishing here. Does anyone know anything about old steam
powered
or 1 lung diesel  powered boats, 38 to 40ish feet in length?
Fishing for
info about doing the loop in a  1 lung boat.

Thanks...bob


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We had a great time traveling with Tug Urger as we came back down the Erie last year. We shared a couple overnight ports with her and crew. Quite a process to watch as they have to shut the engine off and re-position the camshaft before starting back up to change direction forward or reverse. A beautiful piece of machinery, hand oiled and all. Remembered the captain ( Wendy I believe ) explaining to us how she maneuvered in and out of locks, She is good, and fun to watch. Don't miss if you get the chance. Enjoyed watching the "Steamers" Fred. I remember many years ago my dad's friend had a tractor that ran off steam from a wood fired boiler. They kept stacks in the fields for "refueling". Years later I was a boilerman in the Navy. I still get steamed now and then. Enjoy the Erie, can't wait to get back. David Doyle MTOA# 4256 _www.CruisingTheGreatLoop.com_ (http://www.CruisingTheGreatLoop.com) In a message dated 11/19/2013 11:52:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, fred@tug44.org writes: There are a number of old slow running engines in active duty on the NY Canals. Tug Urger, the prettiest of them all, runs at around 300 rpm. Though her 20 ton engine produces only about 300 HP. http://www.tug44.org/canal.corp.boats/tug-urger/ Come to the tugboat Roundup in Waterford next September and you'll see several like that. Fred Tug 44 ---------------------------------------- From: "bob" <relder@cape.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 8:13 AM To: fred@tug44.org, great-loop@lists.trawlering.com Subject: Re: GL: old 1 lung steam or diesel boats Hi Fred, Thanks for responding. I guess steam is not want I want. I have a CD of old engine sounds, and with slight variations, they sound like donk--donk-donk--donk--donk when they run. Probably just a dream, but I would love to do the loop with an old boat with one of those old slow running engines. Anyway, sort of dreaming and fishing for info. Probably diesel I am looking for. Thanks...bob On 11/18/2013 11:38 PM, fred@tug44.org wrote: Bob, I can tell you a bit about wood-fired steam engines, including that they use a tremendous amount of fuel. A few years ago I had 20 small steamers overnighting at my docks. I got them two dump trucks full of firewood, and it only powered them for a day or two down the canal. An unfinished page from that day: http://www.tug44.org/waterford.tugboat.roundup/steamboat-meet/ And my friend Capt Bill has one too: http://www.tug44.org/tugboats.trawlers/african-queen/ Most small steam engines are 2-cylinder. The steam goes to the first cylinder and as it gets exhausted it goes to a larger cylinder which uses up the left over power in the steam. That 2nd cylinder is larger because the steam it receives is cooler and not as high pressure. This arrangement increases efficiency. They still burn a ridiculous amount of fuel, but they do give the advantage that you can cook your food right inside the firebox. The engines all run almost completely silent. Just a little mechanical clatter is all you hear. And you feel the heat from the boiler. Fred Tug 44 ---------------------------------------- From: "bob" <relder@cape.com> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 10:03 PM To: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com Subject: GL: old 1 lung steam or diesel boats Greetings all, Sort of fishing here. Does anyone know anything about old steam powered or 1 lung diesel powered boats, 38 to 40ish feet in length? Fishing for info about doing the loop in a 1 lung boat. Thanks...bob _______________________________________________ http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com