Hi Bruce, It's good to hear from you again. A while back you were talking about a new boat you were working and possibly an article/book describing some of the ideas. I'd love to hear more about what you are cooking. Mark ----- Original Message ---- From: L. Bruce Jones <bruce@ussubmarines.com> To: passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 9:43:57 PM Subject: [PUP] (no subject) Scott, I am very surprised at your anti-cat diatribe. Power cats and sailing cats are very different platforms but they have huge advantages over conventional monohulls under many circumstances. They are far more efficient and considerably faster, not to mention their great layouts and open spaces; and while for monohull sailors they have unusual roll characteristics at least they don't pitch wildly like the Nordhaven and other "fat" monohulls do - nor do they require stabilizers to be comfortable while at sea. My personal preference is for a long, thin steel monohull with no reserve buoyancy forward, a very sharp entry, twin diesels and a single screw. I've personally seen fiberglass passagemakers and sailboats burn to the waterline and grind themselves into oblivion on coral reefs in short order. I'm not quite ready to take my family out around the world on a high speed fiberglass cat design but I would do so far before I would relegate my passagemaking to a Nordhaven. When you go to sea in your boat you are going to find that beating to weather with your bluff bows and significant reserve buoyancy and fat beam is going to make you pay a huge price for your seagoing apartment where the designers are cramming as much living space as possible in a short space. You'll travel up and down as much as you will forward and I hope you and your wife develop cast iron stomachs because pitching in your boat with its substantive vertical and horizontal acceleration and deceleration will make you sick, and keep you sick, an order of magnitude more than the cats you disdain. I speak from experience. You need to make long ocean passages on various designs to reach definitive conclusions. Too many people read the hype, buy into it and become converts without any experience in alternatives, settling for a conventional production boat they can afford. There is nothing wrong with unconventional if you have the experience to evaluate it. Of course, one can make the point that going to sea in anything is far worse than not going at all. All the best... Bruce -- ======================================================================= L. Bruce Jones U.S. SUBMARINES, INC. President POSEIDON UNDERSEA RESORTS LLC Tel: 208/687-9057 Fax: 208/441-7478 E-mail: bruce@ussubmarines.com http://ussubs.com http://poseidonresorts.com "Design, engineering and construction of submarines and submersibles" "Developing the world's first sea floor resort." ======================================================================= _______________________________________________ Passagemaking Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World Productions, formerly known as Trawler World Productions. To be removed from the PUP list send an email with the subject "unsubscribe" (no quotes) to the link below: mailto:passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com Passagemaking-Under-Power Mailing List