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Setting Oscillator Frequency

GL
Glenn Little WB4UIV
Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:59 AM

I just got a system that allows me to compare the phase difference
between a reference and an external oscillator.
I am using a Vectron oscillator installed in a  HP 5345A counter as
the external oscillator and a PTB-100 as the reference.
How close to the reference should I be able to set the OCXO?
After a 3 day warm up, it appears that I have gotten the OCXO to
within 0.0025 Hz of the Rubidium reference.
I am checking with a strip chart recorder over a three hour period
for the next few days to see if the OCXO stays at this accuracy.
Is it really possible to set an OCXO this close or have I made some
errors in my computation of frequency offset?

Thanks
73
Glenn
WB4UIV

I just got a system that allows me to compare the phase difference between a reference and an external oscillator. I am using a Vectron oscillator installed in a HP 5345A counter as the external oscillator and a PTB-100 as the reference. How close to the reference should I be able to set the OCXO? After a 3 day warm up, it appears that I have gotten the OCXO to within 0.0025 Hz of the Rubidium reference. I am checking with a strip chart recorder over a three hour period for the next few days to see if the OCXO stays at this accuracy. Is it really possible to set an OCXO this close or have I made some errors in my computation of frequency offset? Thanks 73 Glenn WB4UIV
BR
Bob Raker
Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:45 PM

Glenn,

From my experience, most precision 10 MHz OCXOs should be settable to within

5 ppb. If settability is not specified, it can be estimated from the tune
range and the number of turns of the adjusting device.  A rule of thumb is
to use one point of resolution for every three degrees of rotation.  The
10811 has +/- 10 Hz minimum - assuming they threw in some margin - 30 Hz
total range with 18 turns gives  1.4 ppb - you're doing quite well with 0.25
ppb.
But, of course the OCXO is probably aging 0.5 ppb/day...........
73,
Bob

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Glenn Little WB4UIV <
glennmaillist@bellsouth.net> wrote:

I just got a system that allows me to compare the phase difference between
a reference and an external oscillator.
I am using a Vectron oscillator installed in a  HP 5345A counter as the
external oscillator and a PTB-100 as the reference.
How close to the reference should I be able to set the OCXO?
After a 3 day warm up, it appears that I have gotten the OCXO to within
0.0025 Hz of the Rubidium reference.
I am checking with a strip chart recorder over a three hour period for the
next few days to see if the OCXO stays at this accuracy.
Is it really possible to set an OCXO this close or have I made some errors
in my computation of frequency offset?

Thanks
73
Glenn
WB4UIV


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Glenn, >From my experience, most precision 10 MHz OCXOs should be settable to within 5 ppb. If settability is not specified, it can be estimated from the tune range and the number of turns of the adjusting device. A rule of thumb is to use one point of resolution for every three degrees of rotation. The 10811 has +/- 10 Hz minimum - assuming they threw in some margin - 30 Hz total range with 18 turns gives 1.4 ppb - you're doing quite well with 0.25 ppb. But, of course the OCXO is probably aging 0.5 ppb/day........... 73, Bob On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Glenn Little WB4UIV < glennmaillist@bellsouth.net> wrote: > I just got a system that allows me to compare the phase difference between > a reference and an external oscillator. > I am using a Vectron oscillator installed in a HP 5345A counter as the > external oscillator and a PTB-100 as the reference. > How close to the reference should I be able to set the OCXO? > After a 3 day warm up, it appears that I have gotten the OCXO to within > 0.0025 Hz of the Rubidium reference. > I am checking with a strip chart recorder over a three hour period for the > next few days to see if the OCXO stays at this accuracy. > Is it really possible to set an OCXO this close or have I made some errors > in my computation of frequency offset? > > Thanks > 73 > Glenn > WB4UIV > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >