Power cats under 30 feet, was C-Dory Products

GK
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Tue, May 10, 2005 4:39 PM

Ed Vozella wrote:
I have tested 26' Glacier Bay, Twin-Vee and World Cat. Next test is Tom Cat
and Aussie-Cat. I need a good stable, economical and reliable boat 24' to
28' for CGAUX Patrols. Tom Cat style seems to be more like what I am looking
for.
I too am not a fisherman.

Ed--

Any progress on your search that you can share with the List?

I've cut down my candidates for the perfect pocket cruiser to World
Cat 270 Hard Top, ProSports 2860WA ProKat, Glacier Bay 2690 Coastal
Runner, TomCat 24 and the new TomCat 255, in no particular order. I
hope to sea-trial each one over the summer months.

--Georgs

>Ed Vozella wrote: >I have tested 26' Glacier Bay, Twin-Vee and World Cat. Next test is Tom Cat >and Aussie-Cat. I need a good stable, economical and reliable boat 24' to >28' for CGAUX Patrols. Tom Cat style seems to be more like what I am looking >for. > I too am not a fisherman. Ed-- Any progress on your search that you can share with the List? I've cut down my candidates for the perfect pocket cruiser to World Cat 270 Hard Top, ProSports 2860WA ProKat, Glacier Bay 2690 Coastal Runner, TomCat 24 and the new TomCat 255, in no particular order. I hope to sea-trial each one over the summer months. --Georgs
RJ
R J PETTEYS
Tue, May 10, 2005 8:47 PM

Power cats under 30 feet, was C-Dory ProductsTake a look at Zeta 32' power cats @landsea.com
Rich Petteys
R Cat
La Conner,WA.

----- Original Message -----
From: Georgs Kolesnikovsmailto:georgs@powercatamaranworld.com
To: Power Catamaran Listmailto:power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 9:39 AM
Subject: [PCW] Power cats under 30 feet, was C-Dory Products

Ed Vozella wrote:
I have tested 26' Glacier Bay, Twin-Vee and World Cat. Next test is Tom Cat
and Aussie-Cat. I need a good stable, economical and reliable boat 24' to
28' for CGAUX Patrols. Tom Cat style seems to be more like what I am looking
for.
 I too am not a fisherman.

Ed--

Any progress on your search that you can share with the List?

I've cut down my candidates for the perfect pocket cruiser to World Cat 270 Hard Top, ProSports 2860WA ProKat, Glacier Bay 2690 Coastal Runner, TomCat 24 and the new TomCat 255, in no particular order. I hope to sea-trial each one over the summer months.

--Georgs


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Power cats under 30 feet, was C-Dory ProductsTake a look at Zeta 32' power cats @landsea.com Rich Petteys R Cat La Conner,WA. ----- Original Message ----- From: Georgs Kolesnikovs<mailto:georgs@powercatamaranworld.com> To: Power Catamaran List<mailto:power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 9:39 AM Subject: [PCW] Power cats under 30 feet, was C-Dory Products Ed Vozella wrote: I have tested 26' Glacier Bay, Twin-Vee and World Cat. Next test is Tom Cat and Aussie-Cat. I need a good stable, economical and reliable boat 24' to 28' for CGAUX Patrols. Tom Cat style seems to be more like what I am looking for. I too am not a fisherman. Ed-- Any progress on your search that you can share with the List? I've cut down my candidates for the perfect pocket cruiser to World Cat 270 Hard Top, ProSports 2860WA ProKat, Glacier Bay 2690 Coastal Runner, TomCat 24 and the new TomCat 255, in no particular order. I hope to sea-trial each one over the summer months. --Georgs _______________________________________________ Power-Catamaran Mailing List
GK
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Wed, May 11, 2005 11:37 AM

Rich Petteys of R Cat wrote:
Take a look at Zeta 32' power cats @landsea.com

The Zeta looks like a lovely boat, Rich, but I'm looking for
something I can easily trailer to all the great cruising grounds of
North America.

Thus. the short list, in alphabetical order, of Glacier Bay 2690
Coastal Runner, ProSports 2860WA ProKat, TomCat 24, the new TomCat
255, and World Cat 270 Hard Top.

Given the restraints of time, money and the fact that Significant
Other and I will be working for at least a few more years, a
passagemaker and voyaging the world are not options right now.
Something small, inexpensive and trailerable, and coastal and inland
cruises of two, three or even four weeks, now, that's doable.

There are many fascinating and challenging cruises to be had not far
from home. Here are the possibles:

-- Enjoy Trent-Severn Waterway
-- Loop Thousand Islands, St. Lawrence River and Rideau Canal
-- Cruise the North Channel
-- Explore Lake Superior
-- Take the train to Moosonee for a poke around James Bay
-- Follow the Ottawa River to its source
-- Circumnavigate Vancouver Island
-- Enjoy the Inside Passage
-- Head north to Alaska and maybe even the Aleutians
-- Trailer down to the Sea of Cortez
-- Cruise a winter in the Bahamas
-- Circumnavigate Cape Breton Island and cruise Lake Bras d'Or
-- Make the passage to Isles de la Madeleine in the Gulf of St. Lawrence
-- Circumnavigate Newfoundland
-- Look for icebergs and whales off the Labrador coast.

I can't wait to get started, but, first, I need to find that perfect
pocket cruiser.

--Georgs

http://www.landsea.com/zeta.html

http://www.glacierbaycats.com/home_2004.htm
http://www.prosportsboats.com/details.php?product_id=1
http://www.c-dory.com/TomCat%2024.htm
http://www.eqmarine.com/C-Dory%20Boats/cdory_tom_cat_25.htm
http://www.worldcat.com/products/270ht.do

>Rich Petteys of R Cat wrote: >Take a look at Zeta 32' power cats @landsea.com The Zeta looks like a lovely boat, Rich, but I'm looking for something I can easily trailer to all the great cruising grounds of North America. Thus. the short list, in alphabetical order, of Glacier Bay 2690 Coastal Runner, ProSports 2860WA ProKat, TomCat 24, the new TomCat 255, and World Cat 270 Hard Top. Given the restraints of time, money and the fact that Significant Other and I will be working for at least a few more years, a passagemaker and voyaging the world are not options right now. Something small, inexpensive and trailerable, and coastal and inland cruises of two, three or even four weeks, now, that's doable. There are many fascinating and challenging cruises to be had not far from home. Here are the possibles: -- Enjoy Trent-Severn Waterway -- Loop Thousand Islands, St. Lawrence River and Rideau Canal -- Cruise the North Channel -- Explore Lake Superior -- Take the train to Moosonee for a poke around James Bay -- Follow the Ottawa River to its source -- Circumnavigate Vancouver Island -- Enjoy the Inside Passage -- Head north to Alaska and maybe even the Aleutians -- Trailer down to the Sea of Cortez -- Cruise a winter in the Bahamas -- Circumnavigate Cape Breton Island and cruise Lake Bras d'Or -- Make the passage to Isles de la Madeleine in the Gulf of St. Lawrence -- Circumnavigate Newfoundland -- Look for icebergs and whales off the Labrador coast. I can't wait to get started, but, first, I need to find that perfect pocket cruiser. --Georgs http://www.landsea.com/zeta.html http://www.glacierbaycats.com/home_2004.htm http://www.prosportsboats.com/details.php?product_id=1 http://www.c-dory.com/TomCat%2024.htm http://www.eqmarine.com/C-Dory%20Boats/cdory_tom_cat_25.htm http://www.worldcat.com/products/270ht.do
RJ
R J PETTEYS
Wed, May 11, 2005 5:05 PM

Re: [PCW] Power cats under 30 feetSorry, I guess it would be hard to tow the 32' Zeta as it sports a 14' beam and loaded with fuel, water and provisions weighs in @ 20000#. Good luck on your search. I'd like to know what your select is and performance etc.

Rich Petteys
----- Original Message -----
From: Georgs Kolesnikovsmailto:georgs@powercatamaranworld.com
To: Power Catamaran Listmailto:power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 4:37 AM
Subject: Re: [PCW] Power cats under 30 feet

Rich Petteys of R Cat wrote:
Take a look at Zeta 32' power cats @landsea.com

The Zeta looks like a lovely boat, Rich, but I'm looking for something I can easily trailer to all the great cruising grounds of North America.

Thus. the short list, in alphabetical order, of Glacier Bay 2690 Coastal Runner, ProSports 2860WA ProKat, TomCat 24, the new TomCat 255, and World Cat 270 Hard Top.

Given the restraints of time, money and the fact that Significant Other and I will be working for at least a few more years, a passagemaker and voyaging the world are not options right now. Something small, inexpensive and trailerable, and coastal and inland cruises of two, three or even four weeks, now, that's doable.

There are many fascinating and challenging cruises to be had not far from home. Here are the possibles:

-- Enjoy Trent-Severn Waterway
-- Loop Thousand Islands, St. Lawrence River and Rideau Canal
-- Cruise the North Channel
-- Explore Lake Superior
-- Take the train to Moosonee for a poke around James Bay
-- Follow the Ottawa River to its source
-- Circumnavigate Vancouver Island
-- Enjoy the Inside Passage
-- Head north to Alaska and maybe even the Aleutians
-- Trailer down to the Sea of Cortez
-- Cruise a winter in the Bahamas
-- Circumnavigate Cape Breton Island and cruise Lake Bras d'Or
-- Make the passage to Isles de la Madeleine in the Gulf of St. Lawrence
-- Circumnavigate Newfoundland
-- Look for icebergs and whales off the Labrador coast.

I can't wait to get started, but, first, I need to find that perfect pocket cruiser.

--Georgs

http://www.landsea.com/zeta.html

http://www.glacierbaycats.com/home_2004.htm
http://www.prosportsboats.com/details.php?product_id=1
http://www.c-dory.com/TomCat%2024.htm
http://www.eqmarine.com/C-Dory%20Boats/cdory_tom_cat_25.htm
http://www.worldcat.com/products/270ht.do


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Re: [PCW] Power cats under 30 feetSorry, I guess it would be hard to tow the 32' Zeta as it sports a 14' beam and loaded with fuel, water and provisions weighs in @ 20000#. Good luck on your search. I'd like to know what your select is and performance etc. Rich Petteys ----- Original Message ----- From: Georgs Kolesnikovs<mailto:georgs@powercatamaranworld.com> To: Power Catamaran List<mailto:power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 4:37 AM Subject: Re: [PCW] Power cats under 30 feet Rich Petteys of R Cat wrote: Take a look at Zeta 32' power cats @landsea.com The Zeta looks like a lovely boat, Rich, but I'm looking for something I can easily trailer to all the great cruising grounds of North America. Thus. the short list, in alphabetical order, of Glacier Bay 2690 Coastal Runner, ProSports 2860WA ProKat, TomCat 24, the new TomCat 255, and World Cat 270 Hard Top. Given the restraints of time, money and the fact that Significant Other and I will be working for at least a few more years, a passagemaker and voyaging the world are not options right now. Something small, inexpensive and trailerable, and coastal and inland cruises of two, three or even four weeks, now, that's doable. There are many fascinating and challenging cruises to be had not far from home. Here are the possibles: -- Enjoy Trent-Severn Waterway -- Loop Thousand Islands, St. Lawrence River and Rideau Canal -- Cruise the North Channel -- Explore Lake Superior -- Take the train to Moosonee for a poke around James Bay -- Follow the Ottawa River to its source -- Circumnavigate Vancouver Island -- Enjoy the Inside Passage -- Head north to Alaska and maybe even the Aleutians -- Trailer down to the Sea of Cortez -- Cruise a winter in the Bahamas -- Circumnavigate Cape Breton Island and cruise Lake Bras d'Or -- Make the passage to Isles de la Madeleine in the Gulf of St. Lawrence -- Circumnavigate Newfoundland -- Look for icebergs and whales off the Labrador coast. I can't wait to get started, but, first, I need to find that perfect pocket cruiser. --Georgs http://www.landsea.com/zeta.html http://www.glacierbaycats.com/home_2004.htm http://www.prosportsboats.com/details.php?product_id=1 http://www.c-dory.com/TomCat%2024.htm http://www.eqmarine.com/C-Dory%20Boats/cdory_tom_cat_25.htm http://www.worldcat.com/products/270ht.do _______________________________________________ Power-Catamaran Mailing List
GK
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Thu, May 12, 2005 12:33 PM

Rich Petteys of R Cat wrote:
Sorry, I guess it would be hard to tow the 32' Zeta as it sports a
14' beam and loaded with fuel, water and provisions weighs in @
20000#. Good luck on your search. I'd like to know what your select
is and performance etc.

You bet I will keep the List posted, and I encourage others searching
for a boat to do the same.

Ed Vozella wrote:
Check out Twin Vee catamarans. Great boat to tow, very sea worthy,
priced right and many good reviews.
Lots of info at http://www.twinveeboats.com/www.twinvee.net.
Check out the forum!

The Twin Vee looks like quite a boat for fishing or day cruising, but
as Significant Other and I want to be able to cruise for several
weeks at a time, we need a bit more in accommodations.

The SO prefers an enclosed head, so our short list of Glacier Bay
2690 Coastal Runner, ProSports 2860WA ProKat, TomCat 24, the new
TomCat 255, and World Cat 270 Hard Top may soon grow shorter still.

Phil Hyatt wrote:
You make the following statement " ...but I'm looking for something
I can easily trailer to all the great cruising grounds of North
America."
The key word here is "easily."  If you look at a table of all boats
for sale in the US and Canada, there is a predominance of boats at
width = 8' 6".  Towing maximum.  However, just because it is listed
at this width doesn't mean it is easy to tow.

Thank you for sharing your experience with the Sea Cat.

I sure hope I'm not underestimating the need for a proper towing rig
as the real-world, all-up weight of the boats I'm looking at is in
the range of 6,000 to 8,000 pounds. Every time towing is mentioned by
someone who has done it, I perk up. For example, I've picked up
excellent information from the C-Dory owner groups.

http://groups.msn.com/cdoryownersgroup
http://www.c-brats.com/

Something like a Ford F350 pickup will be way to go.

Bob Austin wrote:

As you get into the larger boats, the trailering and launching
becomes a bit more difficult:  The Tom Cat 24 weighs almost twice as
much for the hull and engine--trailer about the same.  So probably
count on 7000 lbs for the boat all rigged and with gear.

Roger that.

For this size boat, a totally enclosed cabin, with ventillation does
make sense--but air conditioning adds complexity and weight.

Personally, I avoid air conditioning and other complexities on a boat
like the plague.

My neighbor just purchased a Tom Cat 24 (had a 22 C Dory before)--my
impression is that there is only slighly more room in the Tom Cat
than in the 22 C Dory.  There is an enclosed head, but it is very
small.  I have not seen the 25 foot C Dory--but hope that the head
is bigger and more useful.

The head on the C-Dory 25 is adequate for a guy like me--6 feet 1.5
inches and 235 pounds--and the new TomCat 255 will be have a similar
interior layout. My only problem is that I love the look of the
TomCat 24 but I'm not sure I can like the look of the TomCat 255.
Hull #1 of the latter will be launched in June or July so I'll decide
further when I see it in real life.

http://www.c-dory.com/TomCat%2024.htm
http://www.eqmarine.com/C-Dory%20Boats/cdory_tom_cat_25.htm

Thanks for the excellent feedback. That's what makes a forum like
this one so worthwhile.

--Georgs

Georgs Kolesnikovs
Power Catamaran World
http://www.powercatamaranworld.com

>Rich Petteys of R Cat wrote: >Sorry, I guess it would be hard to tow the 32' Zeta as it sports a >14' beam and loaded with fuel, water and provisions weighs in @ >20000#. Good luck on your search. I'd like to know what your select >is and performance etc. You bet I will keep the List posted, and I encourage others searching for a boat to do the same. >Ed Vozella wrote: >Check out Twin Vee catamarans. Great boat to tow, very sea worthy, >priced right and many good reviews. > Lots of info at <http://www.twinveeboats.com/>www.twinvee.net. >Check out the forum! The Twin Vee looks like quite a boat for fishing or day cruising, but as Significant Other and I want to be able to cruise for several weeks at a time, we need a bit more in accommodations. The SO prefers an enclosed head, so our short list of Glacier Bay 2690 Coastal Runner, ProSports 2860WA ProKat, TomCat 24, the new TomCat 255, and World Cat 270 Hard Top may soon grow shorter still. >Phil Hyatt wrote: >You make the following statement " ...but I'm looking for something >I can easily trailer to all the great cruising grounds of North >America." >The key word here is "easily." If you look at a table of all boats >for sale in the US and Canada, there is a predominance of boats at >width = 8' 6". Towing maximum. However, just because it is listed >at this width doesn't mean it is easy to tow. Thank you for sharing your experience with the Sea Cat. I sure hope I'm not underestimating the need for a proper towing rig as the real-world, all-up weight of the boats I'm looking at is in the range of 6,000 to 8,000 pounds. Every time towing is mentioned by someone who has done it, I perk up. For example, I've picked up excellent information from the C-Dory owner groups. http://groups.msn.com/cdoryownersgroup http://www.c-brats.com/ Something like a Ford F350 pickup will be way to go. Bob Austin wrote: >As you get into the larger boats, the trailering and launching >becomes a bit more difficult: The Tom Cat 24 weighs almost twice as >much for the hull and engine--trailer about the same. So probably >count on 7000 lbs for the boat all rigged and with gear. Roger that. >For this size boat, a totally enclosed cabin, with ventillation does >make sense--but air conditioning adds complexity and weight. Personally, I avoid air conditioning and other complexities on a boat like the plague. >My neighbor just purchased a Tom Cat 24 (had a 22 C Dory before)--my >impression is that there is only slighly more room in the Tom Cat >than in the 22 C Dory. There is an enclosed head, but it is very >small. I have not seen the 25 foot C Dory--but hope that the head >is bigger and more useful. The head on the C-Dory 25 is adequate for a guy like me--6 feet 1.5 inches and 235 pounds--and the new TomCat 255 will be have a similar interior layout. My only problem is that I love the look of the TomCat 24 but I'm not sure I can like the look of the TomCat 255. Hull #1 of the latter will be launched in June or July so I'll decide further when I see it in real life. http://www.c-dory.com/TomCat%2024.htm http://www.eqmarine.com/C-Dory%20Boats/cdory_tom_cat_25.htm Thanks for the excellent feedback. That's what makes a forum like this one so worthwhile. --Georgs -- Georgs Kolesnikovs Power Catamaran World http://www.powercatamaranworld.com