Arizona lake 'electrocution incident' kills 2 brothers, girlfriend left with 'burn marks' on feet, legs
Two brothers have died and a girlfriend of one was left with burn marks after a possible electrocution incident at a lake in Arizona, officials and family members revealed Monday.
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Tom M Theobald
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Freshwater marinas are dangerous places because of the higher resistance to
stray electricity in the water than saltwater. Same for boats with faulty
AC electrical installations. Trying to save another before securing all
local electricity is a death sentence.
Rich Gano
Frolic (Mainship 30 Pilot II)
Panama City, FL
Learned a long, long time ago when working on my lifesaving merit badge
(and then being an aquatics instructor at a BS camp on the Mississippi):
REACH, THROW, ROW, GO!
Too many drowning deaths (there have been a number reported just these
past two weeks) occur because some beach buddy jumped in the water in an
attempt to rescue a friend. This example reported by Rich is just
another in a series of boat/electricity shock drownings. When the marina
sign says "No Swimming," there's a reason for the warning. Not quite the
same as the "Don't jump off the cliff" signs, but it's intended to keep
people safe.
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On 7/14/2020 09:50 AM, Rich Gano via Trawlers-and-Trawlering wrote:
Freshwater marinas are dangerous places because of the higher resistance to
stray electricity in the water than saltwater. Same for boats with faulty
AC electrical installations. Trying to save another before securing all
local electricity is a death sentence.
Burns in her feet from “sticking her toe” into the water???
That must have been some electrical fault!
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On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:19 AM, Rich Gano via Trawlers-and-Trawlering trawlers@lists.trawlering.com wrote:
Freshwater marinas are dangerous places because of the higher resistance to
stray electricity in the water than saltwater. Same for boats with faulty
AC electrical installations. Trying to save another before securing all
local electricity is a death sentence.
Rich Gano
Frolic (Mainship 30 Pilot II)
Panama City, FL
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Good points, Bob, but might I add, if you are going to throw a rope to
someone in distress, put in a loop on the end in order that the person can
slide it down and under their armpits.
They discovered, when that jetliner crashed into the Hudson River, that
many attempts to save folks failed because the people would get tired of or
couldn't hang onto a bare-ended rope.
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Of course, in an “electrocution” drowning, the victim is probably unable to do anything to assist the rescue. That means we need to think up a way that pulls the victim to safety without asking anything of him/her, AND keeps the rescuers out of the water. I’m guessing a long hook would work. Many pools have them but I’ve never seen one at a marina. Have you?
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On Jul 14, 2020, at 1:10 PM, Rudy Sechez via Trawlers-and-Trawlering trawlers@lists.trawlering.com wrote:
Good points, Bob, but might I add, if you are going to throw a rope to
someone in distress, put in a loop on the end in order that the person can
slide it down and under their armpits.
They discovered, when that jetliner crashed into the Hudson River, that
many attempts to save folks failed because the people would get tired of or
couldn't hang onto a bare-ended rope.
*Rudy & Jill Sechez *
*BRINEY BUG-a 34' Sail-Assisted Trawler *
*850-832-7748 *
Deale MD Chesapeake
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Long poles like they have at swimming pools would be a great idea to be
able to pull electrocuted folks from the water, but even better would be
non-metallic poles... probably.
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Might be better to focus on shutting down the electric first. Then it
would not matter what you used to get them out.
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On 7/14/2020 5:47 PM, Rudy Sechez via Trawlers-and-Trawlering wrote:
Long poles like they have at swimming pools would be a great idea to be
able to pull electrocuted folks from the water, but even better would be
non-metallic poles... probably.
The boaters at that marina vary from house boaters to racers and pretty
much in between with some liveaboards. Just miles from nearly five million
people yearning to swim free.
It is a pretty lake In the Bradshaw foothills, sometimes dangerous on
weekends but fairly non-lethal except for this.
I don’t know if their electrical is to code or not. More probably is. The
club is pretty sharp. I imagine someone attached their own leaking
equipment. The only wood around drifts.
Does the USCG do these investigations as lead or do locals carry the load?
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Might be better to focus on shutting down the electric first. Then it
would not matter what you used to get them out.
Frank Burrows 79 43' Viking Piney Narrows Chesapeake Bay
On 7/14/2020 5:47 PM, Rudy Sechez via Trawlers-and-Trawlering wrote:
Long poles like they have at swimming pools would be a great idea to be
able to pull electrocuted folks from the water, but even better would be
non-metallic poles... probably.
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