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Re: World Odd @ Sea across the Atlantic

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Truelove39@aol.com
Mon, Dec 20, 2004 11:35 AM

Phil,

Since sailboat experiences are allowed here <G>, I'll say this, FWIW:

My Westsail, like many trawlers, has too much windage forward, and so she
horses around on her mooring; as much as 90 degrees. I have tried virtually every
method to reduce this. The W43 has a substantial bobstay fitting at the
waterline, about eight feet aft of the bow rollers, and I have tried attaching the
rode or the snubber there to reduce the problem. It does not do so. I have
also tried bringing the rode through only one hawsepipe, and even "sprung" the
boat, a la Jack Aubrey, so she lays off the wind but neither are good solutions.
A riding sail, resulting in more windage aft than forward, is the only thing
that works.YMMV.

John Camm
"Seahorse"
lying St Augustine

Philip J. Rosch wrote:

I've entertained putting a tow-eye on Curmudgeon, but for different reasons.
I like the idea of running the snubbers through the eye to keep the pull on
the anchor close to the waterline.  If they serve multiple purposes builders
might be more likely to install them as standard equipment.

My pals with Nordhavns also spend a lot of time on the hook so it would seem
to be a sensible offering.

Phil, Since sailboat experiences are allowed here <G>, I'll say this, FWIW: My Westsail, like many trawlers, has too much windage forward, and so she horses around on her mooring; as much as 90 degrees. I have tried virtually every method to reduce this. The W43 has a substantial bobstay fitting at the waterline, about eight feet aft of the bow rollers, and I have tried attaching the rode or the snubber there to reduce the problem. It does not do so. I have also tried bringing the rode through only one hawsepipe, and even "sprung" the boat, a la Jack Aubrey, so she lays off the wind but neither are good solutions. A riding sail, resulting in more windage aft than forward, is the only thing that works.YMMV. John Camm "Seahorse" lying St Augustine Philip J. Rosch wrote: I've entertained putting a tow-eye on Curmudgeon, but for different reasons. I like the idea of running the snubbers through the eye to keep the pull on the anchor close to the waterline.  If they serve multiple purposes builders might be more likely to install them as standard equipment. My pals with Nordhavns also spend a lot of time on the hook so it would seem to be a sensible offering.
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Keith
Mon, Dec 20, 2004 1:01 PM

I saw a couple of interesting ideas to minimize this the other day in
Heinz's book on anchoring and mooring. One, he drops a second anchor off the
bow, almost straight down. As the boar veers to one side or another, it
drags and helps stop this motion. Another was to drop a little drogue off
the bow with a tiny weight like a dinghy anchor under it. The drogue sits
maybe 6' under the surface, and both resists up and down motion and side to
side. I haven't had a chance to try either, but I think next time I'm
anchored down in Offat's bayou in Galveston, I'm going to try the latter.

Keith
__
A mathematician is a machine for converting coffee into theorems.
----- Original Message -----
From: Truelove39@aol.com

My Westsail, like many trawlers, has too much windage forward, and so she
horses around on her mooring; as much as 90 degrees. I have tried virtually
every
method to reduce this.

I saw a couple of interesting ideas to minimize this the other day in Heinz's book on anchoring and mooring. One, he drops a second anchor off the bow, almost straight down. As the boar veers to one side or another, it drags and helps stop this motion. Another was to drop a little drogue off the bow with a tiny weight like a dinghy anchor under it. The drogue sits maybe 6' under the surface, and both resists up and down motion and side to side. I haven't had a chance to try either, but I think next time I'm anchored down in Offat's bayou in Galveston, I'm going to try the latter. Keith __ A mathematician is a machine for converting coffee into theorems. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Truelove39@aol.com> My Westsail, like many trawlers, has too much windage forward, and so she horses around on her mooring; as much as 90 degrees. I have tried virtually every method to reduce this.