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Oscilloquartz 3210 Cesium Standard

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Chris
Wed, Aug 27, 2014 9:09 PM

Hi,

I recently bought an Oscilloquartz 3210 cesium standard and although it does
power up, it does not lock. All the parameters on the meter look
sensible, other
than the 2nd harmonic, #9 parameter, which shows zero. Quart oscillator
output
looks almost spot on in comparison with the lab Z3816. I have no info on
this
unit at all, so this may either be a dead tube, or other electronic fault on
one of the many pcb's in the system. Ion pump had a small reading on
power up,
but now dropped back to zero.

I am looking for a user guide for this unit, or even better, a manual
with theory
of operation and setup info. Can anyone help with this, or perhaps suggest a
source ?. Year of manufacture estimated 1984/85, from date code on ic's.

I notice that the tube is from FTS, the same construction as in the FTS
4060, but
different part number and wonder if this was original fitment, or has been
replaced at some stage...

Regards & Thanks

Chris Quayle

Oxford, England
.

Hi, I recently bought an Oscilloquartz 3210 cesium standard and although it does power up, it does not lock. All the parameters on the meter look sensible, other than the 2nd harmonic, #9 parameter, which shows zero. Quart oscillator output looks almost spot on in comparison with the lab Z3816. I have no info on this unit at all, so this may either be a dead tube, or other electronic fault on one of the many pcb's in the system. Ion pump had a small reading on power up, but now dropped back to zero. I am looking for a user guide for this unit, or even better, a manual with theory of operation and setup info. Can anyone help with this, or perhaps suggest a source ?. Year of manufacture estimated 1984/85, from date code on ic's. I notice that the tube is from FTS, the same construction as in the FTS 4060, but different part number and wonder if this was original fitment, or has been replaced at some stage... Regards & Thanks Chris Quayle Oxford, England .
JH
Javier Herrero
Thu, Aug 28, 2014 5:00 AM

Hello,

I've some manuals from an OSA-5585, one of them for the EUDICS 3120. The
thing that Symmetricom calls EUDICS-3120 really is a FTS-5045 module
(Symmetricom in my case), that I think that it is the same that is
inside the FTS-4060. It seems that one common problem with these,
discuted some times in the list, is an STEL-1173 IC that has a failure
mode in which the outputs stop working (one after another, not all at
same time :) ).

Regards,

Javier

On 27/08/2014 23:09, Chris wrote:

Hi,

I recently bought an Oscilloquartz 3210 cesium standard and although
it does
power up, it does not lock. All the parameters on the meter look
sensible, other
than the 2nd harmonic, #9 parameter, which shows zero. Quart
oscillator output
looks almost spot on in comparison with the lab Z3816. I have no info
on this
unit at all, so this may either be a dead tube, or other electronic
fault on
one of the many pcb's in the system. Ion pump had a small reading on
power up,
but now dropped back to zero.

I am looking for a user guide for this unit, or even better, a manual
with theory
of operation and setup info. Can anyone help with this, or perhaps
suggest a
source ?. Year of manufacture estimated 1984/85, from date code on ic's.

I notice that the tube is from FTS, the same construction as in the
FTS 4060, but
different part number and wonder if this was original fitment, or has
been
replaced at some stage...

Regards & Thanks

Chris Quayle

Oxford, England
.


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Hello, I've some manuals from an OSA-5585, one of them for the EUDICS 3120. The thing that Symmetricom calls EUDICS-3120 really is a FTS-5045 module (Symmetricom in my case), that I think that it is the same that is inside the FTS-4060. It seems that one common problem with these, discuted some times in the list, is an STEL-1173 IC that has a failure mode in which the outputs stop working (one after another, not all at same time :) ). Regards, Javier On 27/08/2014 23:09, Chris wrote: > Hi, > > I recently bought an Oscilloquartz 3210 cesium standard and although > it does > power up, it does not lock. All the parameters on the meter look > sensible, other > than the 2nd harmonic, #9 parameter, which shows zero. Quart > oscillator output > looks almost spot on in comparison with the lab Z3816. I have no info > on this > unit at all, so this may either be a dead tube, or other electronic > fault on > one of the many pcb's in the system. Ion pump had a small reading on > power up, > but now dropped back to zero. > > I am looking for a user guide for this unit, or even better, a manual > with theory > of operation and setup info. Can anyone help with this, or perhaps > suggest a > source ?. Year of manufacture estimated 1984/85, from date code on ic's. > > I notice that the tube is from FTS, the same construction as in the > FTS 4060, but > different part number and wonder if this was original fitment, or has > been > replaced at some stage... > > Regards & Thanks > > Chris Quayle > > Oxford, England > . > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
TV
Tom Van Baak
Thu, Sep 4, 2014 1:01 AM

Hi Chris,

Sorry for a delayed reply. The OSA 3210 is one of the only cesium standards I don't have in the "museum". I've seen one or two on eBay over the past decade but not in worthwhile condition. I hope you can get yours working. If not, let me know...

The good news is that I have an original Oscilloquartz 3200 cesium manual. Today I scanned the first part of it for you. See:
http://www.leapsecond.com/museum/osa3200/

If this is helpful to your efforts, I'll try to scan the schematics as well. The manual is an inch thick.

I don't know the model differences. I've seen 3000, 3020 and 3200, 3210, 3230, 3235 mentioned on the web. Maybe 3120. I'm also not clear about the differences in series-3000 vs. series-3100 vs. series 3200. If anyone knows, please post details.

Thanks,
/tvb

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris" syseng.greenfield@btconnect.com
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 2:09 PM
Subject: [time-nuts] Oscilloquartz 3210 Cesium Standard

Hi,

I recently bought an Oscilloquartz 3210 cesium standard and although it does
power up, it does not lock. All the parameters on the meter look
sensible, other
than the 2nd harmonic, #9 parameter, which shows zero. Quart oscillator
output
looks almost spot on in comparison with the lab Z3816. I have no info on
this
unit at all, so this may either be a dead tube, or other electronic fault on
one of the many pcb's in the system. Ion pump had a small reading on
power up,
but now dropped back to zero.

I am looking for a user guide for this unit, or even better, a manual
with theory
of operation and setup info. Can anyone help with this, or perhaps suggest a
source ?. Year of manufacture estimated 1984/85, from date code on ic's.

I notice that the tube is from FTS, the same construction as in the FTS
4060, but
different part number and wonder if this was original fitment, or has been
replaced at some stage...

Regards & Thanks

Chris Quayle

Oxford, England

Hi Chris, Sorry for a delayed reply. The OSA 3210 is one of the only cesium standards I don't have in the "museum". I've seen one or two on eBay over the past decade but not in worthwhile condition. I hope you can get yours working. If not, let me know... The good news is that I have an original Oscilloquartz 3200 cesium manual. Today I scanned the first part of it for you. See: http://www.leapsecond.com/museum/osa3200/ If this is helpful to your efforts, I'll try to scan the schematics as well. The manual is an inch thick. I don't know the model differences. I've seen 3000, 3020 and 3200, 3210, 3230, 3235 mentioned on the web. Maybe 3120. I'm also not clear about the differences in series-3000 vs. series-3100 vs. series 3200. If anyone knows, please post details. Thanks, /tvb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris" <syseng.greenfield@btconnect.com> To: <time-nuts@febo.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 2:09 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Oscilloquartz 3210 Cesium Standard > Hi, > > I recently bought an Oscilloquartz 3210 cesium standard and although it does > power up, it does not lock. All the parameters on the meter look > sensible, other > than the 2nd harmonic, #9 parameter, which shows zero. Quart oscillator > output > looks almost spot on in comparison with the lab Z3816. I have no info on > this > unit at all, so this may either be a dead tube, or other electronic fault on > one of the many pcb's in the system. Ion pump had a small reading on > power up, > but now dropped back to zero. > > I am looking for a user guide for this unit, or even better, a manual > with theory > of operation and setup info. Can anyone help with this, or perhaps suggest a > source ?. Year of manufacture estimated 1984/85, from date code on ic's. > > I notice that the tube is from FTS, the same construction as in the FTS > 4060, but > different part number and wonder if this was original fitment, or has been > replaced at some stage... > > Regards & Thanks > > Chris Quayle > > Oxford, England
PS
paul swed
Thu, Sep 4, 2014 1:25 PM

Nice scan Tom. Clean. I most likely will never run across either unit. But
always good to read about them.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Tom Van Baak tvb@leapsecond.com wrote:

Hi Chris,

Sorry for a delayed reply. The OSA 3210 is one of the only cesium
standards I don't have in the "museum". I've seen one or two on eBay over
the past decade but not in worthwhile condition. I hope you can get yours
working. If not, let me know...

The good news is that I have an original Oscilloquartz 3200 cesium manual.
Today I scanned the first part of it for you. See:
http://www.leapsecond.com/museum/osa3200/

If this is helpful to your efforts, I'll try to scan the schematics as
well. The manual is an inch thick.

I don't know the model differences. I've seen 3000, 3020 and 3200, 3210,
3230, 3235 mentioned on the web. Maybe 3120. I'm also not clear about the
differences in series-3000 vs. series-3100 vs. series 3200. If anyone
knows, please post details.

Thanks,
/tvb

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris" syseng.greenfield@btconnect.com
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 2:09 PM
Subject: [time-nuts] Oscilloquartz 3210 Cesium Standard

Hi,

I recently bought an Oscilloquartz 3210 cesium standard and although it

does

power up, it does not lock. All the parameters on the meter look
sensible, other
than the 2nd harmonic, #9 parameter, which shows zero. Quart oscillator
output
looks almost spot on in comparison with the lab Z3816. I have no info on
this
unit at all, so this may either be a dead tube, or other electronic

fault on

one of the many pcb's in the system. Ion pump had a small reading on
power up,
but now dropped back to zero.

I am looking for a user guide for this unit, or even better, a manual
with theory
of operation and setup info. Can anyone help with this, or perhaps

suggest a

source ?. Year of manufacture estimated 1984/85, from date code on ic's.

I notice that the tube is from FTS, the same construction as in the FTS
4060, but
different part number and wonder if this was original fitment, or has

been

replaced at some stage...

Regards & Thanks

Chris Quayle

Oxford, England


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Nice scan Tom. Clean. I most likely will never run across either unit. But always good to read about them. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Tom Van Baak <tvb@leapsecond.com> wrote: > Hi Chris, > > Sorry for a delayed reply. The OSA 3210 is one of the only cesium > standards I don't have in the "museum". I've seen one or two on eBay over > the past decade but not in worthwhile condition. I hope you can get yours > working. If not, let me know... > > The good news is that I have an original Oscilloquartz 3200 cesium manual. > Today I scanned the first part of it for you. See: > http://www.leapsecond.com/museum/osa3200/ > > If this is helpful to your efforts, I'll try to scan the schematics as > well. The manual is an inch thick. > > I don't know the model differences. I've seen 3000, 3020 and 3200, 3210, > 3230, 3235 mentioned on the web. Maybe 3120. I'm also not clear about the > differences in series-3000 vs. series-3100 vs. series 3200. If anyone > knows, please post details. > > Thanks, > /tvb > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris" <syseng.greenfield@btconnect.com> > To: <time-nuts@febo.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 2:09 PM > Subject: [time-nuts] Oscilloquartz 3210 Cesium Standard > > > > Hi, > > > > I recently bought an Oscilloquartz 3210 cesium standard and although it > does > > power up, it does not lock. All the parameters on the meter look > > sensible, other > > than the 2nd harmonic, #9 parameter, which shows zero. Quart oscillator > > output > > looks almost spot on in comparison with the lab Z3816. I have no info on > > this > > unit at all, so this may either be a dead tube, or other electronic > fault on > > one of the many pcb's in the system. Ion pump had a small reading on > > power up, > > but now dropped back to zero. > > > > I am looking for a user guide for this unit, or even better, a manual > > with theory > > of operation and setup info. Can anyone help with this, or perhaps > suggest a > > source ?. Year of manufacture estimated 1984/85, from date code on ic's. > > > > I notice that the tube is from FTS, the same construction as in the FTS > > 4060, but > > different part number and wonder if this was original fitment, or has > been > > replaced at some stage... > > > > Regards & Thanks > > > > Chris Quayle > > > > Oxford, England > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.