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Surely you're pulling our leg

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Henry Quigley
Wed, Jun 18, 2008 1:27 PM

Mike,
Surely you're pulling our leg.
Henry

----- Original Message ----
From: Mike Hope mphope@gmail.com
To: handy97885@aol.com
Cc: great-loop@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:51:26 PM
Subject: Re: GL: what the hell are we gonna do now

Even more interesting to me is that a real renewable source of
biodiesel is Algae and the studies done in the US have shown that we
could grow enough using a very small percentage of available farm
acres to completetly replace what we currently depend on in foreign
imports which I think I read is around 150 billion gallons annually.

Mike
M/V Muscavado

On 6/17/08, handy97885@aol.com handy97885@aol.com wrote:

It is interesting to note that I saw an article in the St Pete Times about
how the companies which pick up and dispose of waste from restaurants are
now going to their clients facilities only to find that the waste oils have
been stolen/confiscated/borrowed by marauders or others of dubious intent.

It is likewise interesting to note that this is a topic of some general and
sincere interest as opposed to the fellow, who a few months ago , "poo
poohed" the rising price of fuel by rejoicing that "there will be fewer
loopers" and other boaters on the ( his) waterways
John
S/V Second Love.



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Mike, Surely you're pulling our leg. Henry ----- Original Message ---- From: Mike Hope <mphope@gmail.com> To: handy97885@aol.com Cc: great-loop@lists.samurai.com Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:51:26 PM Subject: Re: GL: what the hell are we gonna do now Even more interesting to me is that a real renewable source of biodiesel is Algae and the studies done in the US have shown that we could grow enough using a very small percentage of available farm acres to completetly replace what we currently depend on in foreign imports which I think I read is around 150 billion gallons annually. Mike M/V Muscavado On 6/17/08, handy97885@aol.com <handy97885@aol.com> wrote: > It is interesting to note that I saw an article in the St Pete Times about > how the companies which pick up and dispose of waste from restaurants are > now going to their clients facilities only to find that the waste oils have > been stolen/confiscated/borrowed by marauders or others of dubious intent. > > It is likewise interesting to note that this is a topic of some general and > sincere interest as opposed to the fellow, who a few months ago , "poo > poohed" the rising price of fuel by rejoicing that "there will be fewer > loopers" and other boaters on the ( his) waterways > John > S/V Second Love. > > > > > > > > > > ****************************************** > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/great-loop _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/great-loop
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Harry Armenia Linda Guiffre
Wed, Jun 18, 2008 2:31 PM

Actually the used oil from Chineese resturants is the best to recycle for
biodiesel.  It suppose to be the cleanest.  I once read an article about a
person in Washington state who recycled is own oil in the garage( there is a
company there that sells these units).  He said when he drives down the street
the people who follow him start getting off the freeways and drive into a fast
food resturant.  Talk about power of persausion.  The fast food industry
should jump on this in a heart beat!Harry J. Armenia Linda Guiffre "CABARET"
40' Defever Passagemaker hull #3> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 06:27:51 -0700> From:
hqnp43@yahoo.com> To: mphope@gmail.com; handy97885@aol.com> CC:
great-loop@lists.samurai.com> Subject: GL: Surely you're pulling our leg> >
Mike,> Surely you're pulling our leg.> Henry> > > ----- Original Message ---->
From: Mike Hope mphope@gmail.com> To: handy97885@aol.com> Cc:
great-loop@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:51:26 PM>
Subject: Re: GL: what the hell are we gonna do now> > Even more interesting to
me is that a real renewable source of> biodiesel is Algae and the studies done
in the US have shown that we> could grow enough using a very small percentage
of available farm> acres to completetly replace what we currently depend on in
foreign> imports which I think I read is around 150 billion gallons annually.>

Mike> M/V Muscavado> > > On 6/17/08, handy97885@aol.com handy97885@aol.com

wrote:> > It is interesting to note that I saw an article in the St Pete Times
about> > how the companies which pick up and dispose of waste from restaurants
are> > now going to their clients facilities only to find that the waste oils
have> > been stolen/confiscated/borrowed by marauders or others of dubious
intent.> >> > It is likewise interesting to note that this is a topic of some
general and> > sincere interest as opposed to the fellow, who a few months ago
, "poo> > poohed" the rising price of fuel by rejoicing that "there will be
fewer> > loopers" and other boaters on the ( his) waterways> > John> > S/V
Second Love.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
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Actually the used oil from Chineese resturants is the best to recycle for biodiesel. It suppose to be the cleanest. I once read an article about a person in Washington state who recycled is own oil in the garage( there is a company there that sells these units). He said when he drives down the street the people who follow him start getting off the freeways and drive into a fast food resturant. Talk about power of persausion. The fast food industry should jump on this in a heart beat!Harry J. Armenia Linda Guiffre "CABARET" 40' Defever Passagemaker hull #3> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 06:27:51 -0700> From: hqnp43@yahoo.com> To: mphope@gmail.com; handy97885@aol.com> CC: great-loop@lists.samurai.com> Subject: GL: Surely you're pulling our leg> > Mike,> Surely you're pulling our leg.> Henry> > > ----- Original Message ----> From: Mike Hope <mphope@gmail.com>> To: handy97885@aol.com> Cc: great-loop@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:51:26 PM> Subject: Re: GL: what the hell are we gonna do now> > Even more interesting to me is that a real renewable source of> biodiesel is Algae and the studies done in the US have shown that we> could grow enough using a very small percentage of available farm> acres to completetly replace what we currently depend on in foreign> imports which I think I read is around 150 billion gallons annually.> > Mike> M/V Muscavado> > > On 6/17/08, handy97885@aol.com <handy97885@aol.com> wrote:> > It is interesting to note that I saw an article in the St Pete Times about> > how the companies which pick up and dispose of waste from restaurants are> > now going to their clients facilities only to find that the waste oils have> > been stolen/confiscated/borrowed by marauders or others of dubious intent.> >> > It is likewise interesting to note that this is a topic of some general and> > sincere interest as opposed to the fellow, who a few months ago , "poo> > poohed" the rising price of fuel by rejoicing that "there will be fewer> > loopers" and other boaters on the ( his) waterways> > John> > S/V Second Love.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ******************************************> > _______________________________________________> > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop> >> > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address,> > unsubscribe, etc.) go to:> > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/great-loop> _______________________________________________> http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop> > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address,> unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/great-loop> _______________________________________________> http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop> > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address,> unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/great-loop
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Bob DeGroot
Wed, Jun 18, 2008 3:06 PM

What Mike says is true. At the biodiesel refinery across the freeway, they
have a pilot test going to convert the algae to biodiesel. One of the owners
of the plant says it really is the best source. They have a huge acreage
growing the algae. And in Texas they have algae farmers who grow the stuff
and ship it to the various plants.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Henry Quigley
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:28 AM
To: Mike Hope; handy97885@aol.com
Cc: great-loop@lists.samurai.com
Subject: GL: Surely you're pulling our leg

Mike,
Surely you're pulling our leg.
Henry

----- Original Message ----
From: Mike Hope mphope@gmail.com
To: handy97885@aol.com
Cc: great-loop@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:51:26 PM
Subject: Re: GL: what the hell are we gonna do now

Even more interesting to me is that a real renewable source of biodiesel is
Algae and the studies done in the US have shown that we could grow enough
using a very small percentage of available farm acres to completetly replace
what we currently depend on in foreign imports which I think I read is
around 150 billion gallons annually.

Mike
M/V Muscavado

On 6/17/08, handy97885@aol.com handy97885@aol.com wrote:

It is interesting to note that I saw an article in the St Pete Times
about how the companies which pick up and dispose of waste from
restaurants are now going to their clients facilities only to find
that the waste oils have been stolen/confiscated/borrowed by marauders or

others of dubious intent.

It is likewise interesting to note that this is a topic of some
general and sincere interest as opposed to the fellow, who a few
months ago , "poo poohed" the rising price of fuel by rejoicing that
"there will be fewer loopers" and other boaters on the ( his)
waterways John S/V Second Love.



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What Mike says is true. At the biodiesel refinery across the freeway, they have a pilot test going to convert the algae to biodiesel. One of the owners of the plant says it really is the best source. They have a huge acreage growing the algae. And in Texas they have algae farmers who grow the stuff and ship it to the various plants. -----Original Message----- From: great-loop-bounces@lists.samurai.com [mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Henry Quigley Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:28 AM To: Mike Hope; handy97885@aol.com Cc: great-loop@lists.samurai.com Subject: GL: Surely you're pulling our leg Mike, Surely you're pulling our leg. Henry ----- Original Message ---- From: Mike Hope <mphope@gmail.com> To: handy97885@aol.com Cc: great-loop@lists.samurai.com Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:51:26 PM Subject: Re: GL: what the hell are we gonna do now Even more interesting to me is that a real renewable source of biodiesel is Algae and the studies done in the US have shown that we could grow enough using a very small percentage of available farm acres to completetly replace what we currently depend on in foreign imports which I think I read is around 150 billion gallons annually. Mike M/V Muscavado On 6/17/08, handy97885@aol.com <handy97885@aol.com> wrote: > It is interesting to note that I saw an article in the St Pete Times > about how the companies which pick up and dispose of waste from > restaurants are now going to their clients facilities only to find > that the waste oils have been stolen/confiscated/borrowed by marauders or others of dubious intent. > > It is likewise interesting to note that this is a topic of some > general and sincere interest as opposed to the fellow, who a few > months ago , "poo poohed" the rising price of fuel by rejoicing that > "there will be fewer loopers" and other boaters on the ( his) > waterways John S/V Second Love. > > > > > > > > > > ****************************************** > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/great-loop _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/great-loop _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/great-loop
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Al Thomason
Wed, Jun 18, 2008 4:19 PM

It is a real technology, and one that initial trial runs which seem to be
happening in 2008 show promise.

Low cost to implement production, uses existing infrastructure for down
stream distribution and consumption, does not compete for productive farm
land (Food to Fuel).  Lots to be said for it.

http://gas2.org/2008/04/25/could-we-grow-100000-gallons-of-oil-per-acre-yes-says-vertigro-algae-biofuel-video/

They have completed a trial run:
http://www.valcent.net/s/NewsReleases.asp?ReportID=290918&_Type=News-Releases&_Title=Valcents-Releases-Profitable-Initial-Production-Estimates-For-its-Vertical
(See "Algae Vertical Bioreactor" section of this press release)

Another company: http://www.petrosuninc.com/in-the-news.html
And another: http://www.newenglandcleanfuels.com/

Business week artical:
http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/nov2007/gb20071121_358781.htm?chan=globalbiz_europe+index+page_top+stories
Note distributor working towards est $1.70 for Biodiesel when produced in
production quanities.

-al-

It is a real technology, and one that initial trial runs which seem to be happening in 2008 show promise. Low cost to implement production, uses existing infrastructure for down stream distribution and consumption, does not compete for productive farm land (Food to Fuel). Lots to be said for it. <http://gas2.org/2008/04/25/could-we-grow-100000-gallons-of-oil-per-acre-yes-says-vertigro-algae-biofuel-video/> They have completed a trial run: <http://www.valcent.net/s/NewsReleases.asp?ReportID=290918&_Type=News-Releases&_Title=Valcents-Releases-Profitable-Initial-Production-Estimates-For-its-Vertical> (See "Algae Vertical Bioreactor" section of this press release) Another company: http://www.petrosuninc.com/in-the-news.html And another: http://www.newenglandcleanfuels.com/ Business week artical: <http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/nov2007/gb20071121_358781.htm?chan=globalbiz_europe+index+page_top+stories> Note distributor working towards est $1.70 for Biodiesel when produced in production quanities. -al-