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SeaLubber7@aol.com
Thu, Sep 29, 2005 3:14 PM

So what ever happened to the Yanmar diesel outboards. Obviously at 27hp and
33hp, not high performance, but would seem to be the best of both worlds for
small cruising cats. Were they not dependable enough? Not clean enough? Are they
available in other places (other than North America). Does anyone know what
happened to them?
Ed Schwerin

So what ever happened to the Yanmar diesel outboards. Obviously at 27hp and 33hp, not high performance, but would seem to be the best of both worlds for small cruising cats. Were they not dependable enough? Not clean enough? Are they available in other places (other than North America). Does anyone know what happened to them? Ed Schwerin
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Capt. Len
Thu, Sep 29, 2005 3:16 PM

No clean enough for US.  Think you can find in Canada and Europe.

SeaLubber7@aol.com wrote:

So what ever happened to the Yanmar diesel outboards. Obviously at
27hp and 33hp, not high performance, but would seem to be the best of
both worlds for small cruising cats. Were they not dependable enough?
Not clean enough? Are they available in other places (other than North
America). Does anyone know what happened to them?
Ed Schwerin

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No clean enough for US. Think you can find in Canada and Europe. SeaLubber7@aol.com wrote: > So what ever happened to the Yanmar diesel outboards. Obviously at > 27hp and 33hp, not high performance, but would seem to be the best of > both worlds for small cruising cats. Were they not dependable enough? > Not clean enough? Are they available in other places (other than North > America). Does anyone know what happened to them? > Ed Schwerin > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Power-Catamaran Mailing List > -- Capt. Len Susman trikini23@trikini.com WWW TRIKINI Project http://www.trikini.com What's New http://www.trikini.com/whatn.htm
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Georgs Kolesnikovs
Thu, Sep 29, 2005 6:39 PM

So what ever happened to the Yanmar diesel outboards. Obviously at
27hp and 33hp, not high performance, but would seem to be the best
of both worlds for small cruising cats. Were they not dependable
enough? Not clean enough? Are they available in other places (other
than North America). Does anyone know what happened to them?
Ed Schwerin

As Len has pointed out, Yanmar diesel outboards are still around,
just not in the U.S.

http://www.yanmar.com.au/marine/d_series/dseries.htm

Unfortunately, the drawback for use in smaller power cats, other than
the regulatory one, is that Yanmar D27 and D36 are heavy and
low-powered.

And they are not cheap. When I last checked about a year ago, the
price in Canada was around 23 grand Canadian. Contact below if you're
interested in pursuing the matter.

--Georgs

Georgs Kolesnikovs
Power Catamaran World
http://www.powercatamaranworld.com

From: "Gary Konishi" gary@landseapower.com
To: georgs@trawlering.com
Subject: D36 Outboard
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 08:28:12 -0700
X-ELNK-AV: 0

Georgs,

Thank you for your inquiry regarding the above  captioned Yanmar
Diesel Outboard engine. The weight of this engine is 269 lbs. Please
note that these engines are not EPA approved for sale in the U.S.

The availability of the engines are very scarce and would have to be
ordered in from Japan with a 4 month turn around time. The retail
price of this engine is $23,100.00 Can. FOB Delta, B.C. Canada.

Should you r4equire any further information, please feel free to
email me at anytime.

Thanks,
Gary Konishi
Marine Products Manager

>So what ever happened to the Yanmar diesel outboards. Obviously at >27hp and 33hp, not high performance, but would seem to be the best >of both worlds for small cruising cats. Were they not dependable >enough? Not clean enough? Are they available in other places (other >than North America). Does anyone know what happened to them? >Ed Schwerin As Len has pointed out, Yanmar diesel outboards are still around, just not in the U.S. http://www.yanmar.com.au/marine/d_series/dseries.htm Unfortunately, the drawback for use in smaller power cats, other than the regulatory one, is that Yanmar D27 and D36 are heavy and low-powered. And they are not cheap. When I last checked about a year ago, the price in Canada was around 23 grand Canadian. Contact below if you're interested in pursuing the matter. --Georgs -- Georgs Kolesnikovs Power Catamaran World http://www.powercatamaranworld.com From: "Gary Konishi" <gary@landseapower.com> To: <georgs@trawlering.com> Subject: D36 Outboard Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 08:28:12 -0700 X-ELNK-AV: 0 Georgs, Thank you for your inquiry regarding the above captioned Yanmar Diesel Outboard engine. The weight of this engine is 269 lbs. Please note that these engines are not EPA approved for sale in the U.S. The availability of the engines are very scarce and would have to be ordered in from Japan with a 4 month turn around time. The retail price of this engine is $23,100.00 Can. FOB Delta, B.C. Canada. Should you r4equire any further information, please feel free to email me at anytime. Thanks, Gary Konishi Marine Products Manager
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Capt. Len
Thu, Sep 29, 2005 7:22 PM

Diesel IB or Gas OB

25 years ago I would answer IBD.  They were heavy , low RPM normally
aspirated and OB were 2 cycle, carb engines, you mixed oil in the fuel
and the ignition system was not great.

Today I would probably go the other way.  In fact have gone the other
way.

While diesels are lighter, this has been done at the expense of high
rpm, turbo charging and complex electronic fuel metering systems While
OB 2 cycle are oil injection and often fuel injected with electronic
ignitions and the 4 cycle OB are getting smaller every year.

The Catfisher cat ( commercial fishing) that we built had a pair of VW
Dasher marinized diesels and appeared bullet proof.  As was an Isuzi on
a 40 ft monohull also used for fishing.

Today the Power Trikini 32 has had both a 40 HP for long distance
cruising and a 100 HP on it for going offshore fishing and both work
fine and have proven reliable.

We get 8 mpg with the 40 and 4 mpg with the 100. Cruise is 9 with the 40
and 17 with the 100.  The 100 weighs about 350 while the 40 was 140 lbs
and that weight is dragging the stern and using gas.

If time, money and health permit, plan to extend the OR aft to provide
added buoyancy and planing surface.

As an aside. While we came through Charley without a drop of water
aboard ( the eye passed 35 miles away and we had 105 mph winds) a lawn
mowing contractor at a neighbors, blew enough clippings into the cockpit
to clog the scuppers and 22" of rain in 48 hours caused the cockpit to
fill, overflow the cockpit locker and basically drop the stern enough to
back flow and flood the main hull.  We had 24-25 " of water before the
flotation took over and stabilized things.  If we had an inboard diesel
it would have been underwater.  The OB was free and clear and the
batteries in the deck locker were fine and if the flooding had been due
to hitting something, we would have made it back to port which would not
have been the case with a diesel perhaps.

len

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Diesel IB or Gas OB 25 years ago I would answer IBD. They were heavy , low RPM normally aspirated and OB were 2 cycle, carb engines, you mixed oil in the fuel and the ignition system was not great. Today I would probably go the other way. In fact have gone the other way. While diesels are lighter, this has been done at the expense of high rpm, turbo charging and complex electronic fuel metering systems While OB 2 cycle are oil injection and often fuel injected with electronic ignitions and the 4 cycle OB are getting smaller every year. The Catfisher cat ( commercial fishing) that we built had a pair of VW Dasher marinized diesels and appeared bullet proof. As was an Isuzi on a 40 ft monohull also used for fishing. Today the Power Trikini 32 has had both a 40 HP for long distance cruising and a 100 HP on it for going offshore fishing and both work fine and have proven reliable. We get 8 mpg with the 40 and 4 mpg with the 100. Cruise is 9 with the 40 and 17 with the 100. The 100 weighs about 350 while the 40 was 140 lbs and that weight is dragging the stern and using gas. If time, money and health permit, plan to extend the OR aft to provide added buoyancy and planing surface. As an aside. While we came through Charley without a drop of water aboard ( the eye passed 35 miles away and we had 105 mph winds) a lawn mowing contractor at a neighbors, blew enough clippings into the cockpit to clog the scuppers and 22" of rain in 48 hours caused the cockpit to fill, overflow the cockpit locker and basically drop the stern enough to back flow and flood the main hull. We had 24-25 " of water before the flotation took over and stabilized things. If we had an inboard diesel it would have been underwater. The OB was free and clear and the batteries in the deck locker were fine and if the flooding had been due to hitting something, we would have made it back to port which would not have been the case with a diesel perhaps. len -- Capt. Len Susman trikini23@trikini.com WWW TRIKINI Project http://www.trikini.com What's New http://www.trikini.com/whatn.htm