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Roger Lalonde

Wed, Mar 14, 2012 1:16 AM

No mention of expected current strength on the Ottawa river.
Does anyone here know?
R.

To all ,

I just looked at the data that I had observed in a current study in Search
and Rescue training and the current on the Ottawa river.

The documented speed was 600 feet per hour in June.

Roger Lalonde
Summerstown Ontario Canada

> No mention of expected current strength on the Ottawa river. > Does anyone here know? > R. > To all , I just looked at the data that I had observed in a current study in Search and Rescue training and the current on the Ottawa river. The documented speed was 600 feet per hour in June. Roger Lalonde Summerstown Ontario Canada

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Tim

Wed, Mar 14, 2012 12:13 PM

Hi All: I've read a bunch of stuff, but I'm very uncertain as to the maximum
height to do the loop, does anyone have the STRAIGHT answer. I believe we
are way too high and everything is fixed. Been trying to find a great boat
for nearly a year, wanted a trawler, but everything was way out of our price
range so ended up with an absolutely MINT shape Sea Ray 410 Aft Cabin, like
new even though older, bran new Cats (not rebuilt), canvas, electronics,
even has tender, and I got it at a really affordable price, but I think the
height says, "NO LOOP FOR YOU FELLA".

Thanks much.
Tim

Timothy Joseph, PhD.
Scientist/Technical Writer
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Lalonde
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 9:16 PM
To: Greg Han - Allegria ; ralph@alphacompservices.com
Cc: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: Re: GL: Rideau Canal

No mention of expected current strength on the Ottawa river.
Does anyone here know?
R.

To all ,

I just looked at the data that I had observed in a current study in Search
and Rescue training and the current on the Ottawa river.

The documented speed was 600 feet per hour in June.

Roger Lalonde
Summerstown Ontario Canada

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Hi All: I've read a bunch of stuff, but I'm very uncertain as to the maximum height to do the loop, does anyone have the STRAIGHT answer. I believe we are way too high and everything is fixed. Been trying to find a great boat for nearly a year, wanted a trawler, but everything was way out of our price range so ended up with an absolutely MINT shape Sea Ray 410 Aft Cabin, like new even though older, bran new Cats (not rebuilt), canvas, electronics, even has tender, and I got it at a really affordable price, but I think the height says, "NO LOOP FOR YOU FELLA". Thanks much. Tim Timothy Joseph, PhD. Scientist/Technical Writer -----Original Message----- From: Roger Lalonde Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 9:16 PM To: Greg Han - Allegria ; ralph@alphacompservices.com Cc: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com Subject: Re: GL: Rideau Canal > No mention of expected current strength on the Ottawa river. > Does anyone here know? > R. > To all , I just looked at the data that I had observed in a current study in Search and Rescue training and the current on the Ottawa river. The documented speed was 600 feet per hour in June. Roger Lalonde Summerstown Ontario Canada _______________________________________________ http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com

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John & Judy Gill

Wed, Mar 14, 2012 8:22 PM

The Air Heights for the Great Loop

Chicago River...downtown route the air draft is 17 ft.
Calumet Sag Sanitation Canal....19 ft. 1- inch
Erie Canal from Albany to Oswego.........20 ft.
Western half of Erie Canal..........15 ft. 5 - inches
Lake Champlain Route & Richelieu River........17 ft.
Rideau Waterway..... 22 ft.
Trent-Severn Waterway....22 ft.

Maximum Draft Limits for the Great Loop

Draft limits are the sill height from the bottom of the lock sill to the pool water depth of the water
level above or below the lock.

Rideau Waterway....5 feet (Ottawa to Kingston)
< http://boating.ncf.ca/rideaufacts.html >

Note: The Rideau Waterway is normally accessed by going the Lake Champlain Route, but could
also be done via the St. Lawrence
Seaway Route.
Trent-Severn Waterway..... 6 feet (Trenton to Port Severn)
< http://www.pc.gc.ca/lhn-nhs/on/trentsevern/visit/visit5.aspx >

Maximum Beam Widths for the Great Loop

Lock 45 on the Trent-Severn Waterway has an operational width of
23 feet.
The Marine Railway at Big Chute on the Trent-Severn Waterway has
a beam width limit of 24 feet.

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Hope this helps ALL

John and Judy Gill
Delaware River Sail & Power Squadron, D/5
Two J’s V, a 36 ft. Carver Mariner
Slip E-26, Sassafras Harbor Marina, Georgetown, MD
AGLCA Life Members, Gold Flag Loopers & Harbor Hosts
USPS Life Members & CPS-ECP Members
eMail: < jjgill@twojscom.com >
Website: http://www.twojscom.com/GreatLoop/

On Mar 14, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Tim wrote:

Hi All: I've read a bunch of stuff, but I'm very uncertain as to the maximum height to do the loop, does anyone have the STRAIGHT answer. I believe we are way too high and everything is fixed. Been trying to find a great boat for nearly a year, wanted a trawler, but everything was way out of our price range so ended up with an absolutely MINT shape Sea Ray 410 Aft Cabin, like new even though older, bran new Cats (not rebuilt), canvas, electronics, even has tender, and I got it at a really affordable price, but I think the height says, "NO LOOP FOR YOU FELLA".

Thanks much.
Tim

Timothy Joseph, PhD.
Scientist/Technical Writer
-----Original Message----- From: Roger Lalonde
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 9:16 PM
To: Greg Han - Allegria ; ralph@alphacompservices.com
Cc: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: Re: GL: Rideau Canal

No mention of expected current strength on the Ottawa river.
Does anyone here know?
R.

To all ,

I just looked at the data that I had observed in a current study in Search
and Rescue training and the current on the Ottawa river.

The documented speed was 600 feet per hour in June.

Roger Lalonde
Summerstown Ontario Canada

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The Air Heights for the Great Loop 1. Chicago River...downtown route the air draft is 17 ft. 2. Calumet Sag Sanitation Canal....19 ft. 1- inch 3. Erie Canal from Albany to Oswego.........20 ft. 4. Western half of Erie Canal..........15 ft. 5 - inches 5. Lake Champlain Route & Richelieu River........17 ft. 6. Rideau Waterway..... 22 ft. 7. Trent-Severn Waterway....22 ft. Maximum Draft Limits for the Great Loop Draft limits are the sill height from the bottom of the lock sill to the pool water depth of the water level above or below the lock. 1. Rideau Waterway....5 feet (Ottawa to Kingston) < http://boating.ncf.ca/rideaufacts.html > Note: The Rideau Waterway is normally accessed by going the Lake Champlain Route, but could also be done via the St. Lawrence Seaway Route. 2. Trent-Severn Waterway..... 6 feet (Trenton to Port Severn) < http://www.pc.gc.ca/lhn-nhs/on/trentsevern/visit/visit5.aspx > Maximum Beam Widths for the Great Loop 1. Lock 45 on the Trent-Severn Waterway has an operational width of 23 feet. 2. The Marine Railway at Big Chute on the Trent-Severn Waterway has a beam width limit of 24 feet. ======================================================= Hope this helps ALL John and Judy Gill Delaware River Sail & Power Squadron, D/5 Two J’s V, a 36 ft. Carver Mariner Slip E-26, Sassafras Harbor Marina, Georgetown, MD AGLCA Life Members, Gold Flag Loopers & Harbor Hosts USPS Life Members & CPS-ECP Members eMail: < jjgill@twojscom.com > Website: <http://www.twojscom.com/GreatLoop/> On Mar 14, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Tim wrote: > Hi All: I've read a bunch of stuff, but I'm very uncertain as to the maximum height to do the loop, does anyone have the STRAIGHT answer. I believe we are way too high and everything is fixed. Been trying to find a great boat for nearly a year, wanted a trawler, but everything was way out of our price range so ended up with an absolutely MINT shape Sea Ray 410 Aft Cabin, like new even though older, bran new Cats (not rebuilt), canvas, electronics, even has tender, and I got it at a really affordable price, but I think the height says, "NO LOOP FOR YOU FELLA". > > Thanks much. > Tim > > > > Timothy Joseph, PhD. > Scientist/Technical Writer > -----Original Message----- From: Roger Lalonde > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 9:16 PM > To: Greg Han - Allegria ; ralph@alphacompservices.com > Cc: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com > Subject: Re: GL: Rideau Canal > > >> No mention of expected current strength on the Ottawa river. >> Does anyone here know? >> R. >> > > To all , > > I just looked at the data that I had observed in a current study in Search > and Rescue training and the current on the Ottawa river. > > The documented speed was 600 feet per hour in June. > > Roger Lalonde > Summerstown Ontario Canada > > > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com

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Elaine Reib

Tue, Apr 3, 2012 5:17 PM

Tim,
If you have Cruising the Great Circle Route by Skipper Bob all the info you
need for planning your trip is in there. It is updated yearly.

Elaine Reib
Co-founder, Skipper Bob Publications.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim" timjosephphd@gmail.com
To: "Roger Lalonde" seabreez@cogeco.ca; "Greg Han - Allegria"
hangreg@gmail.com; ralph@alphacompservices.com
Cc: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: GL: Rideau Canal

Hi All: I've read a bunch of stuff, but I'm very uncertain as to the
maximum height to do the loop, does anyone have the STRAIGHT answer. I
believe we are way too high and everything is fixed. Been trying to find a
great boat for nearly a year, wanted a trawler, but everything was way out
of our price range so ended up with an absolutely MINT shape Sea Ray 410
Aft Cabin, like new even though older, bran new Cats (not rebuilt),
canvas, electronics, even has tender, and I got it at a really affordable
price, but I think the height says, "NO LOOP FOR YOU FELLA".

Thanks much.
Tim

Timothy Joseph, PhD.
Scientist/Technical Writer
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Lalonde
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 9:16 PM
To: Greg Han - Allegria ; ralph@alphacompservices.com
Cc: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: Re: GL: Rideau Canal

No mention of expected current strength on the Ottawa river.
Does anyone here know?
R.

To all ,

I just looked at the data that I had observed in a current study in Search
and Rescue training and the current on the Ottawa river.

The documented speed was 600 feet per hour in June.

Roger Lalonde
Summerstown Ontario Canada

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Tim, If you have Cruising the Great Circle Route by Skipper Bob all the info you need for planning your trip is in there. It is updated yearly. Elaine Reib Co-founder, Skipper Bob Publications. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" <timjosephphd@gmail.com> To: "Roger Lalonde" <seabreez@cogeco.ca>; "Greg Han - Allegria" <hangreg@gmail.com>; <ralph@alphacompservices.com> Cc: <great-loop@lists.trawlering.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:13 AM Subject: Re: GL: Rideau Canal > Hi All: I've read a bunch of stuff, but I'm very uncertain as to the > maximum height to do the loop, does anyone have the STRAIGHT answer. I > believe we are way too high and everything is fixed. Been trying to find a > great boat for nearly a year, wanted a trawler, but everything was way out > of our price range so ended up with an absolutely MINT shape Sea Ray 410 > Aft Cabin, like new even though older, bran new Cats (not rebuilt), > canvas, electronics, even has tender, and I got it at a really affordable > price, but I think the height says, "NO LOOP FOR YOU FELLA". > > Thanks much. > Tim > > > > Timothy Joseph, PhD. > Scientist/Technical Writer > -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Lalonde > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 9:16 PM > To: Greg Han - Allegria ; ralph@alphacompservices.com > Cc: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com > Subject: Re: GL: Rideau Canal > > >> No mention of expected current strength on the Ottawa river. >> Does anyone here know? >> R. >> > > To all , > > I just looked at the data that I had observed in a current study in Search > and Rescue training and the current on the Ottawa river. > > The documented speed was 600 feet per hour in June. > > Roger Lalonde > Summerstown Ontario Canada > > > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com >

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Ted Stehle

Tue, Apr 3, 2012 5:39 PM

Tim,

If you take the "traditional" loop" route the height restriction is 19.1 at
mile 300.5 on the Illinois Waterway.

Ted

Ted Stehle, Editor
Skipper Bob Publications
www.waterwayguide.com
www.skipperbob.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Elaine Reib" ELReib@comcast.net
To: "Tim" timjosephphd@gmail.com
Cc: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: GL: Rideau Canal

Hi All: I've read a bunch of stuff, but I'm very uncertain as to the
maximum height to do the loop, does anyone have the STRAIGHT answer. I

Tim, If you take the "traditional" loop" route the height restriction is 19.1 at mile 300.5 on the Illinois Waterway. Ted Ted Stehle, Editor Skipper Bob Publications www.waterwayguide.com www.skipperbob.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elaine Reib" <ELReib@comcast.net> To: "Tim" <timjosephphd@gmail.com> Cc: <great-loop@lists.trawlering.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:17 PM Subject: Re: GL: Rideau Canal > > >> Hi All: I've read a bunch of stuff, but I'm very uncertain as to the >> maximum height to do the loop, does anyone have the STRAIGHT answer. I

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Dennis Sajdak

Tue, Apr 3, 2012 5:59 PM

Does anyone know the max height allowed if one takes the Erie Canal route? I
grew up in Buffalo and want to visit old friends and family.
Thanks,
Dennis

From: Ted Stehle tstehle@waterwayguide.com
To: Elaine Reib ELReib@comcast.net; Tim timjosephphd@gmail.com
Cc: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com
Sent: Tue, April 3, 2012 10:39:13 AM
Subject: Re: GL: Rideau Canal

Tim,

If you take the "traditional" loop" route the height restriction is 19.1 at mile
300.5 on the Illinois Waterway.

Ted

Ted Stehle, Editor
Skipper Bob Publications
www.waterwayguide.com
www.skipperbob.net
----- Original Message ----- From: "Elaine Reib" ELReib@comcast.net
To: "Tim" timjosephphd@gmail.com
Cc: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: GL: Rideau Canal

Hi All: I've read a bunch of stuff, but I'm very uncertain as to the maximum
height to do the loop, does anyone have the STRAIGHT answer. I

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Does anyone know the max height allowed if one takes the Erie Canal route? I grew up in Buffalo and want to visit old friends and family. Thanks, Dennis ________________________________ From: Ted Stehle <tstehle@waterwayguide.com> To: Elaine Reib <ELReib@comcast.net>; Tim <timjosephphd@gmail.com> Cc: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com Sent: Tue, April 3, 2012 10:39:13 AM Subject: Re: GL: Rideau Canal Tim, If you take the "traditional" loop" route the height restriction is 19.1 at mile 300.5 on the Illinois Waterway. Ted Ted Stehle, Editor Skipper Bob Publications www.waterwayguide.com www.skipperbob.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elaine Reib" <ELReib@comcast.net> To: "Tim" <timjosephphd@gmail.com> Cc: <great-loop@lists.trawlering.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:17 PM Subject: Re: GL: Rideau Canal > > >> Hi All: I've read a bunch of stuff, but I'm very uncertain as to the maximum >>height to do the loop, does anyone have the STRAIGHT answer. I _______________________________________________ http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com