Hi ron, What size is your CQR? How heavy is your boat? I’m surprised you’re having problems with a 6:1 payout of all chain rode. Do you really back it down hard, or let it settle a bit? We started with a Bruce and CQR, almost always using the CQR, usually a 3:1 scope. I do increase the scope sometimes like in the Everglades where our props spun at anchorwith the tidal swings! After a trip to the Bahamas, we noticed that there were many Rocna’s on the bows of the stinkers and sailors down there. We talked with people, did some research and after a couple of drags later we switched to a Rocna, upped one size. Very happy with that decision so far and have been in a really big blow during a thunderstorm this last spring. I believe Manson Supreme is basically a Rocna copy. I asked an experienced cruiser on Blue Angel who had a MS if he would get it again. He said no, he’d get the Rocna, and that’s how we ended up with ours. I do agree with John: > The point is that there is no one anchor that is ideal for all types of bottom types and structures such as: sand, clay, rocks / choral, heavy weed beds, etc. Your all chain rhode should only require a typical 4:1 scope unless you are in a swift current situation or you are concerned about dragging anchor. Good luck with it. Jim TWINS