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Seasickness (was Travels with Akama)

BE
brian eiland
Sun, Nov 27, 2005 12:53 AM

From: "Maurice & Louise-Ann on AKAMA" nunas@nunas.com
I'm not prone to seasickness,

although I do get queasy.  LA fares well too, but not quite as well as
I.  On this trip we started out in nearly calm conditions with a
forecast for calm increasing to moderate on the port bow.  After a half
day the winds started to pick up, and by the end of the first day they
were howling and the sea was building.  We both got seasick.  LA took
two pills (we never take them) and was knocked out cold for two days.
Meanwhile, up in the pilothouse, I stopped taking the pills to avoid the
same fate, and ended up keeping watch for two days straight.


Brian added:
I've never really had a problem with this affliction myself, but I have often
heard of all sorts of remedies, and tried to be aware of some in case a
passenger aboard a vessel should become ill. I think many of the 'cures' are
of a snake-oil variety.

Recently I saw an interesting 'letter to the editor' note in Yachting World. I
posted this observation on another forum:


In the Nov issue of Yachting World magazine I noticed an interesting 'letter
to the editor'

C for seasickness

Sir, I read with interest but also some amazement the great report on
seasickness (Yachting World, October). The illness which in fact is not an
illness, is caused by histamine produced by the brain when disturbed by
'illogical' movement.

Histamine production can be cut by high doses of Vitamin C; one has to take
three, four, or even five grams when feeling the onset of seasickness.
Recovery comes immediately.

The link between seasickness, vomiting, and histamine was discovered by German
Professor Dr Jarisch.

My wife, who suffered severely on every sailing trip, tried out our remedy on
our last trip in Croatia. She took three grams. Shortly after drinking the
Vitamin C cocktail she felt great.

Heinz Ernst Daester
Madany Yachting
Obfelden, Switzerland


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From: "Maurice & Louise-Ann on AKAMA" <nunas@nunas.com> I'm not prone to seasickness, > although I do get queasy. LA fares well too, but not quite as well as > I. On this trip we started out in nearly calm conditions with a > forecast for calm increasing to moderate on the port bow. After a half > day the winds started to pick up, and by the end of the first day they > were howling and the sea was building. We both got seasick. LA took > two pills (we never take them) and was knocked out cold for two days. > Meanwhile, up in the pilothouse, I stopped taking the pills to avoid the > same fate, and ended up keeping watch for two days straight. __________________________________________________ Brian added: I've never really had a problem with this affliction myself, but I have often heard of all sorts of remedies, and tried to be aware of some in case a passenger aboard a vessel should become ill. I think many of the 'cures' are of a snake-oil variety. Recently I saw an interesting 'letter to the editor' note in Yachting World. I posted this observation on another forum: __________________________ In the Nov issue of Yachting World magazine I noticed an interesting 'letter to the editor' C for seasickness Sir, I read with interest but also some amazement the great report on seasickness (Yachting World, October). The illness which in fact is not an illness, is caused by histamine produced by the brain when disturbed by 'illogical' movement. Histamine production can be cut by high doses of Vitamin C; one has to take three, four, or even five grams when feeling the onset of seasickness. Recovery comes immediately. The link between seasickness, vomiting, and histamine was discovered by German Professor Dr Jarisch. My wife, who suffered severely on every sailing trip, tried out our remedy on our last trip in Croatia. She took three grams. Shortly after drinking the Vitamin C cocktail she felt great. Heinz Ernst Daester Madany Yachting Obfelden, Switzerland ____________________________________________ If you wish to see other replies to this posting, or contribute to the discussion please visit: <http://boatdesign.net/forums/showthread.php?t=9514>
M&
Maurice & Louise-Ann on AKAMA
Sun, Nov 27, 2005 1:18 AM

Brian,

Thanks.  From experience we know that ginger cookies work, and
crystalline ginger is even better, but the effects are short lived, just
an hour or two.

How about ascorbic acid (vitamin C)?  Is one does enough or does one
have to stay on it until better weather?

Maurice & Louise-Ann

-----Original Message-----
From: brian eiland [mailto:beiland@usa.net]
Sent: Sunday, 27 November 2005 13:53
To: nunas@nunas.com; Passagemaking Under Power List
Subject: Seasickness (was Travels with Akama)

<snip> My wife, who suffered severely on every sailing trip, tried out our remedy on our last trip in Croatia. She took three grams. Shortly after drinking the Vitamin C cocktail she felt great. <snip>
Brian, Thanks. From experience we know that ginger cookies work, and crystalline ginger is even better, but the effects are short lived, just an hour or two. How about ascorbic acid (vitamin C)? Is one does enough or does one have to stay on it until better weather? Maurice & Louise-Ann -----Original Message----- From: brian eiland [mailto:beiland@usa.net] Sent: Sunday, 27 November 2005 13:53 To: nunas@nunas.com; Passagemaking Under Power List Subject: Seasickness (was Travels with Akama) <snip> My wife, who suffered severely on every sailing trip, tried out our remedy on our last trip in Croatia. She took three grams. Shortly after drinking the Vitamin C cocktail she felt great. <snip>
PP
Peter Pisciotta
Sun, Nov 27, 2005 3:16 PM

Recently I saw an interesting 'letter to the editor'
note in Yachting World.
The illness which in fact is not an
illness, is caused by histamine produced by the
brain when disturbed by 'illogical' movement.

Histamine production can be cut by high doses of
Vitamin C; one has to take three, four, or
even five grams when feeling the onset of
seasickness. Recovery comes immediately.

I seem to recall a side effect to high doses of
Vitamin C can be diarrhea (Dr Bob Austin - does my
memory serve correctly?). I have also observed that
the acidity in orange juice seems to exacerbate
stomach upset at sea, so pills would be preferable.

As an interesting aside to the ginger cookie stories,
last year I delivered a yacht from southern California
to Victoria BC with the owner and his brother aboard.
The brother was a retired miner and hell for stout ---
except he suffered terribly from sea sickness despite
wearing a scopolamine patch. He spent 5 days in the
pilothouse eating Trader Joe's "Triple Ginger
Cookies," which he affectionately referred to as his
sea sickness pills.

Peter

> Recently I saw an interesting 'letter to the editor' > note in Yachting World. > The illness which in fact is not an > illness, is caused by histamine produced by the > brain when disturbed by 'illogical' movement. > > Histamine production can be cut by high doses of > Vitamin C; one has to take three, four, or > even five grams when feeling the onset of > seasickness. Recovery comes immediately. I seem to recall a side effect to high doses of Vitamin C can be diarrhea (Dr Bob Austin - does my memory serve correctly?). I have also observed that the acidity in orange juice seems to exacerbate stomach upset at sea, so pills would be preferable. As an interesting aside to the ginger cookie stories, last year I delivered a yacht from southern California to Victoria BC with the owner and his brother aboard. The brother was a retired miner and hell for stout --- except he suffered terribly from sea sickness despite wearing a scopolamine patch. He spent 5 days in the pilothouse eating Trader Joe's "Triple Ginger Cookies," which he affectionately referred to as his sea sickness pills. Peter