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New Zealand, Iceland, Haiti

BC
Brooke Clarke
Tue, Sep 7, 2010 2:53 PM

Hi:

All the subject locations are on the edge of the Pacific plate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Plates_tect2_en.svg
When you look at the time difference between the recent events on a
geologic scale you could say they all happened at the same time.

--
Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke
http://www.PRC68.com

Hi: All the subject locations are on the edge of the Pacific plate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Plates_tect2_en.svg When you look at the time difference between the recent events on a geologic scale you could say they all happened at the same time. -- Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com
PK
Poul-Henning Kamp
Tue, Sep 7, 2010 3:13 PM

In message 4C8651E7.1080501@att.net, Brooke Clarke writes:

All the subject locations are on the edge of the Pacific plate.

Iceland ?  On the edge of the Pacific plate ?

Have I missed some serious tektonic activity last night ?

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In message <4C8651E7.1080501@att.net>, Brooke Clarke writes: >All the subject locations are on the edge of the Pacific plate. Iceland ? On the edge of the *Pacific* plate ? Have I missed some serious tektonic activity last night ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.
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dk4xp@arcor.de
Tue, Sep 7, 2010 3:53 PM

Betreff: Re: [time-nuts] New Zealand, Iceland, Haiti

In message 4C8651E7.1080501@att.net, Brooke Clarke writes:

All the subject locations are on the edge of the Pacific plate.

Iceland ?  On the edge of the Pacific plate ?

Have I missed some serious tektonic activity last night ?

Haiti?

Gerhard

Betreff: Re: [time-nuts] New Zealand, Iceland, Haiti > In message <4C8651E7.1080501@att.net>, Brooke Clarke writes: > > >All the subject locations are on the edge of the Pacific plate. > > Iceland ? On the edge of the *Pacific* plate ? > > Have I missed some serious tektonic activity last night ? Haiti? Gerhard
MD
Magnus Danielson
Tue, Sep 7, 2010 6:38 PM

On 09/07/2010 05:13 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:

In message4C8651E7.1080501@att.net, Brooke Clarke writes:

All the subject locations are on the edge of the Pacific plate.

Iceland ?  On the edge of the Pacific plate ?

Have I missed some serious tektonic activity last night ?

No.

Iceland is technically on two different plates... the North-
American plate and the Euroasian plate.

So it is not on ONE plate and none of the plates it is on is the Pacific
plate.

PS. Fascinated about the danish manned space-jump exercises in the
Baltic sea. Wonders about how their trajectory care about the ship
routes around Bornholm. Ah well.
http://www.copenhagensuborbitals.com/index.php

Cheers,
Magnus

On 09/07/2010 05:13 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message<4C8651E7.1080501@att.net>, Brooke Clarke writes: > >> All the subject locations are on the edge of the Pacific plate. > > Iceland ? On the edge of the *Pacific* plate ? > > Have I missed some serious tektonic activity last night ? > No. Iceland is technically on two different plates... the North- American plate and the Euroasian plate. So it is not on ONE plate and none of the plates it is on is the Pacific plate. PS. Fascinated about the danish manned space-jump exercises in the Baltic sea. Wonders about how their trajectory care about the ship routes around Bornholm. Ah well. http://www.copenhagensuborbitals.com/index.php Cheers, Magnus
SR
Steve Rooke
Tue, Sep 7, 2010 10:35 PM

On 8 September 2010 06:38, Magnus Danielson magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote:

On 09/07/2010 05:13 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:

In message4C8651E7.1080501@att.net, Brooke Clarke writes:

All the subject locations are on the edge of the Pacific plate.

Iceland ?  On the edge of the Pacific plate ?

Have I missed some serious tektonic activity last night ?

No.

Iceland is technically on two different plates... the North-
American plate and the Euroasian plate.

I heard it was a great place to buy real estate as it straddles the
two plates which are separating and hence your land area grows :)

Steve

So it is not on ONE plate and none of the plates it is on is the Pacific
plate.

PS. Fascinated about the danish manned space-jump exercises in the Baltic
sea. Wonders about how their trajectory care about the ship routes around
Bornholm. Ah well.
http://www.copenhagensuborbitals.com/index.php

Cheers,
Magnus


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  • Einstein
On 8 September 2010 06:38, Magnus Danielson <magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org> wrote: > On 09/07/2010 05:13 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >> >> In message<4C8651E7.1080501@att.net>, Brooke Clarke writes: >> >>> All the subject locations are on the edge of the Pacific plate. >> >> Iceland ?  On the edge of the *Pacific* plate ? >> >> Have I missed some serious tektonic activity last night ? >> > > No. > > Iceland is technically on two different plates... the North- > American plate and the Euroasian plate. I heard it was a great place to buy real estate as it straddles the two plates which are separating and hence your land area grows :) Steve > So it is not on ONE plate and none of the plates it is on is the Pacific > plate. > > PS. Fascinated about the danish manned space-jump exercises in the Baltic > sea. Wonders about how their trajectory care about the ship routes around > Bornholm. Ah well. > http://www.copenhagensuborbitals.com/index.php > > Cheers, > Magnus > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV & G8KVD The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once. - Einstein
JL
J. L. Trantham
Tue, Sep 7, 2010 11:22 PM

Huh?

Joe

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Subject: [time-nuts] New Zealand, Iceland, Haiti

Hi:

All the subject locations are on the edge of the Pacific plate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Plates_tect2_en.svg
When you look at the time difference between the recent events on a
geologic scale you could say they all happened at the same time.

--
Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke
http://www.PRC68.com


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Huh? Joe -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Brooke Clarke Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 9:53 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] New Zealand, Iceland, Haiti Hi: All the subject locations are on the edge of the Pacific plate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Plates_tect2_en.svg When you look at the time difference between the recent events on a geologic scale you could say they all happened at the same time. -- Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Kiwi Geoff
Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:04 AM

Brooke Clarke wrote:

When you look at the time difference between the recent events on a geologic
scale you could say they all happened at the same time.

Hi Brooke, I'm writing from my home in Christchurch, New Zealand.

"Local Time" of the event  is an important variable.

Last Saturday we had a 7.1 Richter magnitude event here, which was
higher than that of Haiti (where there were 230,000 deaths). We had no
loss of life in Christchurch mainly because it happened at 4:35 am
local time, and because of our building code, as per:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/4096880/Why-we-re-not-Haiti

We are still experiencing magnitude 5 aftershocks here as I speak, and
for those who like graphs, here is a live feed of the seismograph from
Christchurch.

http://www.geonet.org.nz/earthquake/drums/mqz-drum.html

I now know my home can withstand a magnitude 7.1 earthquake, but it is
a test that many houses in Christchurch have failed.

Regards, Geoff.

Brooke Clarke wrote: > When you look at the time difference between the recent events on a geologic > scale you could say they all happened at the same time. Hi Brooke, I'm writing from my home in Christchurch, New Zealand. "Local Time" of the event is an important variable. Last Saturday we had a 7.1 Richter magnitude event here, which was higher than that of Haiti (where there were 230,000 deaths). We had no loss of life in Christchurch mainly because it happened at 4:35 am local time, and because of our building code, as per: http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/4096880/Why-we-re-not-Haiti We are still experiencing magnitude 5 aftershocks here as I speak, and for those who like graphs, here is a live feed of the seismograph from Christchurch. http://www.geonet.org.nz/earthquake/drums/mqz-drum.html I now know my home can withstand a magnitude 7.1 earthquake, but it is a test that many houses in Christchurch have failed. Regards, Geoff.
J
jimlux
Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:49 AM

Kiwi Geoff wrote:

Brooke Clarke wrote:

When you look at the time difference between the recent events on a geologic
scale you could say they all happened at the same time.

Hi Brooke, I'm writing from my home in Christchurch, New Zealand.

"Local Time" of the event  is an important variable.

Last Saturday we had a 7.1 Richter magnitude event here, which was
higher than that of Haiti (where there were 230,000 deaths). We had no
loss of life in Christchurch mainly because it happened at 4:35 am
local time, and because of our building code, as per:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/4096880/Why-we-re-not-Haiti

We are still experiencing magnitude 5 aftershocks here as I speak, and
for those who like graphs, here is a live feed of the seismograph from
Christchurch.

http://www.geonet.org.nz/earthquake/drums/mqz-drum.html

I now know my home can withstand a magnitude 7.1 earthquake, but it is
a test that many houses in Christchurch have failed.

What you really want to know is the surface motion at your house
during the quake.

The Northridge earthquake (6.7) was striking because of the radical
difference in damage from houses that were close together.  Subsurface
geology had a big effect. I'm about 15 km from the epicenter, and we had
essentially no damage or even permanent effects (although it certainly
woke us all up).  A friend who also lives 15 km away, but in a different
direction, lost all their dishes and glassware when they were launched
across the room ( as were he and his girlfriend).  The difference was
that I had a strong motion of less than 0.1 g and he had >1 g.. peak
surface acceleration (1.7g) was some 7km from the epicenter.

For the most part, the damage level was continuous (e.g. adjacent houses
were damaged about the same amount) but there were some striking
anomalies that could not be explained by construction technique, etc.
It's theorized that there were reflections and refractions in the
subsurface structures that resulted in some places with peaks and nulls.

That's aside from things like subsidence and liquefaction, which have
big effects on damage.

Kiwi Geoff wrote: > Brooke Clarke wrote: >> When you look at the time difference between the recent events on a geologic >> scale you could say they all happened at the same time. > > Hi Brooke, I'm writing from my home in Christchurch, New Zealand. > > "Local Time" of the event is an important variable. > > Last Saturday we had a 7.1 Richter magnitude event here, which was > higher than that of Haiti (where there were 230,000 deaths). We had no > loss of life in Christchurch mainly because it happened at 4:35 am > local time, and because of our building code, as per: > > http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/4096880/Why-we-re-not-Haiti > > We are still experiencing magnitude 5 aftershocks here as I speak, and > for those who like graphs, here is a live feed of the seismograph from > Christchurch. > > http://www.geonet.org.nz/earthquake/drums/mqz-drum.html > > I now know my home can withstand a magnitude 7.1 earthquake, but it is > a test that many houses in Christchurch have failed. > What you really want to know is the surface motion *at your house* during the quake. The Northridge earthquake (6.7) was striking because of the radical difference in damage from houses that were close together. Subsurface geology had a big effect. I'm about 15 km from the epicenter, and we had essentially no damage or even permanent effects (although it certainly woke us all up). A friend who also lives 15 km away, but in a different direction, lost all their dishes and glassware when they were launched across the room ( as were he and his girlfriend). The difference was that I had a strong motion of less than 0.1 g and he had >1 g.. peak surface acceleration (1.7g) was some 7km from the epicenter. For the most part, the damage level was continuous (e.g. adjacent houses were damaged about the same amount) but there were some striking anomalies that could not be explained by construction technique, etc. It's theorized that there were reflections and refractions in the subsurface structures that resulted in some places with peaks and nulls. That's aside from things like subsidence and liquefaction, which have big effects on damage.
SR
Steve Rooke
Wed, Sep 8, 2010 9:05 AM

On 8 September 2010 12:49, jimlux jimlux@earthlink.net wrote:

Kiwi Geoff wrote:

Brooke Clarke wrote:

When you look at the time difference between the recent events on a
geologic
scale you could say they all happened at the same time.

Hi Brooke, I'm writing from my home in Christchurch, New Zealand.

"Local Time" of the event  is an important variable.

Last Saturday we had a 7.1 Richter magnitude event here, which was
higher than that of Haiti (where there were 230,000 deaths). We had no
loss of life in Christchurch mainly because it happened at 4:35 am
local time, and because of our building code, as per:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/4096880/Why-we-re-not-Haiti

We are still experiencing magnitude 5 aftershocks here as I speak, and
for those who like graphs, here is a live feed of the seismograph from
Christchurch.

http://www.geonet.org.nz/earthquake/drums/mqz-drum.html

I now know my home can withstand a magnitude 7.1 earthquake, but it is
a test that many houses in Christchurch have failed.

What you really want to know is the surface motion at your house during
the quake.

The Northridge earthquake (6.7) was striking because of the radical
difference in damage from houses that were close together.  Subsurface
geology had a big effect. I'm about 15 km from the epicenter, and we had
essentially no damage or even permanent effects (although it certainly woke
us all up).  A friend who also lives 15 km away, but in a different
direction, lost all their dishes and glassware when they were launched
across the room ( as were he and his girlfriend).  The difference was that I
had a strong motion of less than 0.1 g and he had >1 g.. peak surface
acceleration (1.7g) was some 7km from the epicenter.

For the most part, the damage level was continuous (e.g. adjacent houses
were damaged about the same amount) but there were some striking anomalies
that could not be explained by construction technique, etc. It's theorized
that there were reflections and refractions in the subsurface structures
that resulted in some places with peaks and nulls.

That's aside from things like subsidence and liquefaction, which have big
effects on damage.

One point to understand is that the original 7.1 quake was just 10km
below the surface but we have been experiencing a lot of after-shocks
that are up to 5.4 which have been closer the the surface and closer
to Christchurch as well. This morning at around 8am was a 5.1 that was
just across the other side from the harbour and just 6km deep. These
after-shocks seem to be doing more damage than the initial quake as
more and more buildings and roads are affected. Believe me, even
though it's only a 5.1, when it's that close and shallow, it feels
like a massive shake. There have been about 150 after-shocks so far
and each days max quake is well over 5. The official estimate of the
damage has now doubled to $4bn and it looks like it will take more
like years to put everything right here.

Certainly the building codes here have saved peoples lives but the
fact that we reside on a gravel bed has still rendered a lot of
building damage, even to new properties, due to the liquefaction and
uneven subsidence. But watch this space as many people fear another
big one may occur, as there are new quakes occurring which are not on
the same fault line as the initial ones. Anyone got a spare room :)

Steve


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  • Einstein
On 8 September 2010 12:49, jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net> wrote: > Kiwi Geoff wrote: >> >> Brooke Clarke wrote: >>> >>> When you look at the time difference between the recent events on a >>> geologic >>> scale you could say they all happened at the same time. >> >> Hi Brooke, I'm writing from my home in Christchurch, New Zealand. >> >> "Local Time" of the event  is an important variable. >> >> Last Saturday we had a 7.1 Richter magnitude event here, which was >> higher than that of Haiti (where there were 230,000 deaths). We had no >> loss of life in Christchurch mainly because it happened at 4:35 am >> local time, and because of our building code, as per: >> >> http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/4096880/Why-we-re-not-Haiti >> >> We are still experiencing magnitude 5 aftershocks here as I speak, and >> for those who like graphs, here is a live feed of the seismograph from >> Christchurch. >> >> http://www.geonet.org.nz/earthquake/drums/mqz-drum.html >> >> I now know my home can withstand a magnitude 7.1 earthquake, but it is >> a test that many houses in Christchurch have failed. >> > > What you really want to know is the surface motion *at your house* during > the quake. > > The Northridge earthquake (6.7) was striking because of the radical > difference in damage from houses that were close together.  Subsurface > geology had a big effect. I'm about 15 km from the epicenter, and we had > essentially no damage or even permanent effects (although it certainly woke > us all up).  A friend who also lives 15 km away, but in a different > direction, lost all their dishes and glassware when they were launched > across the room ( as were he and his girlfriend).  The difference was that I > had a strong motion of less than 0.1 g and he had >1 g.. peak surface > acceleration (1.7g) was some 7km from the epicenter. > > For the most part, the damage level was continuous (e.g. adjacent houses > were damaged about the same amount) but there were some striking anomalies > that could not be explained by construction technique, etc. It's theorized > that there were reflections and refractions in the subsurface structures > that resulted in some places with peaks and nulls. > > That's aside from things like subsidence and liquefaction, which have big > effects on damage. One point to understand is that the original 7.1 quake was just 10km below the surface but we have been experiencing a lot of after-shocks that are up to 5.4 which have been closer the the surface and closer to Christchurch as well. This morning at around 8am was a 5.1 that was just across the other side from the harbour and just 6km deep. These after-shocks seem to be doing more damage than the initial quake as more and more buildings and roads are affected. Believe me, even though it's only a 5.1, when it's that close and shallow, it feels like a massive shake. There have been about 150 after-shocks so far and each days max quake is well over 5. The official estimate of the damage has now doubled to $4bn and it looks like it will take more like years to put everything right here. Certainly the building codes here have saved peoples lives but the fact that we reside on a gravel bed has still rendered a lot of building damage, even to new properties, due to the liquefaction and uneven subsidence. But watch this space as many people fear another big one may occur, as there are new quakes occurring which are not on the same fault line as the initial ones. Anyone got a spare room :) Steve > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV & G8KVD The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once. - Einstein
BC
Brooke Clarke
Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:26 PM

Hi Steve:

The Ricter scale was developed based on pendulum seismometers and that
the "P" wave arrives first then the "S".  The time delay between the P
and "S" wave gives the distance to the epicenter (time nuts connection).
The magnitude of the "S" wave (adjusted for the distance) gives a Ricter
magnitude.  But this system does not relate to the energy contained in
the quake.
http://www.prc68.com/I/Seismometer.shtml

At the time of the Loma Prieta quake I was standing in front of the
company where I worked and watched the windows "oil can" with the
magnitude of the in-out motion increasing with each cycle.  If the quake
had lasted a few seconds longer they would have exploded, either sending
glass into or out of the building.  We were all starting to lay flat on
the ground in case the glass was coming out. Then the quake ended.

The subject locations are all on or adjacent to the Pacific plate as is
California.

Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke
http://www.PRC68.com

Steve Rooke wrote:

On 8 September 2010 12:49, jimluxjimlux@earthlink.net  wrote:

Kiwi Geoff wrote:

Brooke Clarke wrote:

When you look at the time difference between the recent events on a
geologic
scale you could say they all happened at the same time.

Hi Brooke, I'm writing from my home in Christchurch, New Zealand.

"Local Time" of the event  is an important variable.

Last Saturday we had a 7.1 Richter magnitude event here, which was
higher than that of Haiti (where there were 230,000 deaths). We had no
loss of life in Christchurch mainly because it happened at 4:35 am
local time, and because of our building code, as per:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/4096880/Why-we-re-not-Haiti

We are still experiencing magnitude 5 aftershocks here as I speak, and
for those who like graphs, here is a live feed of the seismograph from
Christchurch.

http://www.geonet.org.nz/earthquake/drums/mqz-drum.html

I now know my home can withstand a magnitude 7.1 earthquake, but it is
a test that many houses in Christchurch have failed.

What you really want to know is the surface motion at your house during
the quake.

The Northridge earthquake (6.7) was striking because of the radical
difference in damage from houses that were close together.  Subsurface
geology had a big effect. I'm about 15 km from the epicenter, and we had
essentially no damage or even permanent effects (although it certainly woke
us all up).  A friend who also lives 15 km away, but in a different
direction, lost all their dishes and glassware when they were launched
across the room ( as were he and his girlfriend).  The difference was that I
had a strong motion of less than 0.1 g and he had>1 g.. peak surface
acceleration (1.7g) was some 7km from the epicenter.

For the most part, the damage level was continuous (e.g. adjacent houses
were damaged about the same amount) but there were some striking anomalies
that could not be explained by construction technique, etc. It's theorized
that there were reflections and refractions in the subsurface structures
that resulted in some places with peaks and nulls.

That's aside from things like subsidence and liquefaction, which have big
effects on damage.

One point to understand is that the original 7.1 quake was just 10km
below the surface but we have been experiencing a lot of after-shocks
that are up to 5.4 which have been closer the the surface and closer
to Christchurch as well. This morning at around 8am was a 5.1 that was
just across the other side from the harbour and just 6km deep. These
after-shocks seem to be doing more damage than the initial quake as
more and more buildings and roads are affected. Believe me, even
though it's only a 5.1, when it's that close and shallow, it feels
like a massive shake. There have been about 150 after-shocks so far
and each days max quake is well over 5. The official estimate of the
damage has now doubled to $4bn and it looks like it will take more
like years to put everything right here.

Certainly the building codes here have saved peoples lives but the
fact that we reside on a gravel bed has still rendered a lot of
building damage, even to new properties, due to the liquefaction and
uneven subsidence. But watch this space as many people fear another
big one may occur, as there are new quakes occurring which are not on
the same fault line as the initial ones. Anyone got a spare room :)

Steve


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Brooke Clarke
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Hi Steve: The Ricter scale was developed based on pendulum seismometers and that the "P" wave arrives first then the "S". The time delay between the P and "S" wave gives the distance to the epicenter (time nuts connection). The magnitude of the "S" wave (adjusted for the distance) gives a Ricter magnitude. But this system does not relate to the energy contained in the quake. http://www.prc68.com/I/Seismometer.shtml At the time of the Loma Prieta quake I was standing in front of the company where I worked and watched the windows "oil can" with the magnitude of the in-out motion increasing with each cycle. If the quake had lasted a few seconds longer they would have exploded, either sending glass into or out of the building. We were all starting to lay flat on the ground in case the glass was coming out. Then the quake ended. The subject locations are all on or adjacent to the Pacific plate as is California. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com Steve Rooke wrote: > On 8 September 2010 12:49, jimlux<jimlux@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> Kiwi Geoff wrote: >> >>> Brooke Clarke wrote: >>> >>>> When you look at the time difference between the recent events on a >>>> geologic >>>> scale you could say they all happened at the same time. >>>> >>> Hi Brooke, I'm writing from my home in Christchurch, New Zealand. >>> >>> "Local Time" of the event is an important variable. >>> >>> Last Saturday we had a 7.1 Richter magnitude event here, which was >>> higher than that of Haiti (where there were 230,000 deaths). We had no >>> loss of life in Christchurch mainly because it happened at 4:35 am >>> local time, and because of our building code, as per: >>> >>> http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/4096880/Why-we-re-not-Haiti >>> >>> We are still experiencing magnitude 5 aftershocks here as I speak, and >>> for those who like graphs, here is a live feed of the seismograph from >>> Christchurch. >>> >>> http://www.geonet.org.nz/earthquake/drums/mqz-drum.html >>> >>> I now know my home can withstand a magnitude 7.1 earthquake, but it is >>> a test that many houses in Christchurch have failed. >>> >>> >> What you really want to know is the surface motion *at your house* during >> the quake. >> >> The Northridge earthquake (6.7) was striking because of the radical >> difference in damage from houses that were close together. Subsurface >> geology had a big effect. I'm about 15 km from the epicenter, and we had >> essentially no damage or even permanent effects (although it certainly woke >> us all up). A friend who also lives 15 km away, but in a different >> direction, lost all their dishes and glassware when they were launched >> across the room ( as were he and his girlfriend). The difference was that I >> had a strong motion of less than 0.1 g and he had>1 g.. peak surface >> acceleration (1.7g) was some 7km from the epicenter. >> >> For the most part, the damage level was continuous (e.g. adjacent houses >> were damaged about the same amount) but there were some striking anomalies >> that could not be explained by construction technique, etc. It's theorized >> that there were reflections and refractions in the subsurface structures >> that resulted in some places with peaks and nulls. >> >> That's aside from things like subsidence and liquefaction, which have big >> effects on damage. >> > One point to understand is that the original 7.1 quake was just 10km > below the surface but we have been experiencing a lot of after-shocks > that are up to 5.4 which have been closer the the surface and closer > to Christchurch as well. This morning at around 8am was a 5.1 that was > just across the other side from the harbour and just 6km deep. These > after-shocks seem to be doing more damage than the initial quake as > more and more buildings and roads are affected. Believe me, even > though it's only a 5.1, when it's that close and shallow, it feels > like a massive shake. There have been about 150 after-shocks so far > and each days max quake is well over 5. The official estimate of the > damage has now doubled to $4bn and it looks like it will take more > like years to put everything right here. > > Certainly the building codes here have saved peoples lives but the > fact that we reside on a gravel bed has still rendered a lot of > building damage, even to new properties, due to the liquefaction and > uneven subsidence. But watch this space as many people fear another > big one may occur, as there are new quakes occurring which are not on > the same fault line as the initial ones. Anyone got a spare room :) > > Steve > > >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> >> > > > -- Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com