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View all threadsThanks Polly!
Yes the recent PIAAC meeting had some very good information and we were thinking of incorporating something from PIAAC into the introductory letter as well.
We will have a final draft and response sheet out soon.
Happy New Year to everyone.
PETER A. WAITE | Executive Vice President
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Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 5:21 PM
To: David Rosen djrosen123@gmail.com
Cc: members@lists.national-coalition-literacy.org; Michele Bellso MBellso@proliteracy.org
Subject: Re: [NCL Members] Presidential Survey and PPC call reminder
Hi all,
This is a very useful survey and I like both Regina's and David's suggestions in using it beyond the initial intent.
Is it too late to add a suggestion? At the PIAAC Research Conference, a paper Literacy and Numeracy Skills of Second-Generation Young Adults: A Comparative Study of Canada, France, Germany, the United Kingdom and the United States was presented. It had some findings that I think will inform and give data to the Immigrants section of the survey. Jeanne Batalova, Senior Policy Analyst and Michael Fix both at the Migration Policy Institute were the presenters. I am attaching the summary we were given here for your review. David, you might remember it?
The survey is excellent as is, Peter!
Polly Smith
(COABE Public Policy Chair)
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 12:28 PM, David Rosen <djrosen123@gmail.commailto:djrosen123@gmail.com> wrote:
These are great ideas, Regina, on how to use this survey for other purposes.
I also wonder if there is potential for a social media campaign using this. For example, the Cleveland Literacy Coalition already has a hugely successful social media campaign with many subscribers. Perhaps they would be interested in using this as a tweet or on their Facebook page to get not only their subscribers’ attention, but if it gets social media hits, also traditional media attention. There may be other local social media campaigns that literacy advocates can tap into and use this survey to good effect, however, I particularly like the Cleveland’s because their “social media assets” are much broader than only adult basic skills programs and literacy practitioners, include a wide range of advocacy groups that are also stakeholders in adult and children’s basic skills, such as: libraries, museums, businesses, organized labor, poverty reduction advocacy groups and others.
David J. Rosen
djrosen123@gmail.commailto:djrosen123@gmail.com
On Dec 22, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Suitt, Regina <rsuitt@pima.edumailto:rsuitt@pima.edu> wrote:
Hi all,
This is great; I'm looking forward to the final version.
A few ideas on utilizing this survey, besides the actual Presidential candidates:
Thanks again for providing this and Happy Holidays to all!
Regina
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Peter Waite <pwaite@proliteracy.orgmailto:pwaite@proliteracy.org> wrote:
Hello Coalition members,
Attached is a revised draft of our Presidential Survey. We made a number of adjustments and additions based on various comments and suggestions. Our plan is to do one final revision and then send it on to the respective candidates shortly after the first of the year.
We will post the document and any responses or comments we get back on the NCL website. Feel free to do so on your website as well. The approach we took was to use the document for the education of the candidates and staff as much as to seek specific responses. (We don’t expect many.) Our hope is to give the issue some exposure and connect it to other issues of importance.
If you have any contacts within the campaigns please let us know as getting this to the right contacts is as important as the content. Thanks for everyone’s help on this and particularly our initial drafter of the paper Michele Bellso.
Look forward to hearing from folks and have a Happy Holiday.
Peter
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Hello Coalition members,
Attached is the final draft of our Presidential Survey and a response sheet. We attempted to incorporate as many comments as possible and add the response sheet as suggested by several members.
We can have one last review tomorrow on our call and if you cant make it please feel free to email back any final suggestions.
We have compiled a contact list but can use any others folks might have for the dissemination.
Once sent we will also post on the NCL website and feel use it anyway you can..it is clearly "open source" so adapt as necessary.
The call tomorrow and a tentative agenda is below. Talk to you then!
Peter
l
Jan 6th 4pm eastern
1-605-477-2100
Passcode 240804
Agenda items
Presidential Survey
Appropriations follow up
2017 and beyond appropriations
Caucus update
?
PETER A. WAITE | Executive Vice President
ProLiteracyhttp://www.proliteracy.org/ | 104 Marcellus Street | Syracuse, NY 13204
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Peter,
This has developed into a solid 2-page document. Congratulations. I appreciate the amount of work and thought that went into this. I still have some doubts about whether the presidential hopefuls or the nominees will want to take the time to fill out the response sheet and return it, assuming that is how you will direct the 2-page document, but I may be wrong about this. It will be interesting to see. Will you be using a covering letter to transmit it? Will it be sent electronically or by regular mail?
Full speed ahead! Thanks so much for your enormous effort.
Gail
On Jan 5, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Peter Waite pwaite@proliteracy.org wrote:
Hello Coalition members,
Attached is the final draft of our Presidential Survey and a response sheet. We attempted to incorporate as many comments as possible and add the response sheet as suggested by several members.
We can have one last review tomorrow on our call and if you cant make it please feel free to email back any final suggestions.
We have compiled a contact list but can use any others folks might have for the dissemination.
Once sent we will also post on the NCL website and feel use it anyway you can..it is clearly "open source" so adapt as necessary.
The call tomorrow and a tentative agenda is below. Talk to you then!
Peter
l
Jan 6th 4pm eastern
1-605-477-2100
Passcode 240804
Agenda items
Presidential Survey
Appropriations follow up
2017 and beyond appropriations
Caucus update
PETER A. WAITE | Executive Vice President
ProLiteracy | 104 Marcellus Street | Syracuse, NY 13204
p 315.214-2460 | f 315.422.6369 | pwaite@proliteracy.org
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Gail Spangenberg
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Adult Learning Partners, LLC
440 East 23rd Street - Ste. 11c
New York, NY 10010
Peter,
Let me add my thanks and congratulations for this effort. The background information is well-done and can be used for other purposes. I agree that it might be tough to get responses--but you can't get them if you don't try. Thanks again.
Carol
Carol Clymer, Ed.D.
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Institute for the Study of Adult Literacy
Goodling Institute for Research in Family Literacy
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Penn State University
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(814) 865-5876
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On Jan 6, 2016, at 5:48 AM, Gail Spangenberg <gspangenberg@alpamerica.commailto:gspangenberg@alpamerica.com>
wrote:
Peter,
This has developed into a solid 2-page document. Congratulations. I appreciate the amount of work and thought that went into this. I still have some doubts about whether the presidential hopefuls or the nominees will want to take the time to fill out the response sheet and return it, assuming that is how you will direct the 2-page document, but I may be wrong about this. It will be interesting to see. Will you be using a covering letter to transmit it? Will it be sent electronically or by regular mail?
Full speed ahead! Thanks so much for your enormous effort.
Gail
On Jan 5, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Peter Waite <pwaite@proliteracy.orgmailto:pwaite@proliteracy.org> wrote:
Hello Coalition members,
Attached is the final draft of our Presidential Survey and a response sheet. We attempted to incorporate as many comments as possible and add the response sheet as suggested by several members.
We can have one last review tomorrow on our call and if you cant make it please feel free to email back any final suggestions.
We have compiled a contact list but can use any others folks might have for the dissemination.
Once sent we will also post on the NCL website and feel use it anyway you can..it is clearly "open source" so adapt as necessary.
The call tomorrow and a tentative agenda is below. Talk to you then!
Peter
l
Jan 6th 4pm eastern
1-605-477-2100
Passcode 240804
Agenda items
Presidential Survey
Appropriations follow up
2017 and beyond appropriations
Caucus update
PETER A. WAITE | Executive Vice President
ProLiteracyhttp://www.proliteracy.org/ | 104 Marcellus Street | Syracuse, NY 13204
p 315.214-2460 | f 315.422.6369 | pwaite@proliteracy.orgmailto:pwaite@proliteracy.org
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Peter,
Kudos to you and your team! The comprehensive background information is so valuable, and the response sheet certainly meets the need I saw.
I do have one question: Since so many of the questions involve commitments for additional resources which may not receive positive support at this time, I wonder if an additional question regarding bully pulpit support for the recognition of the importance of this issue. My first thought regarding the phrasing is: Will you provide public recognition of the importance of addressing adult literacy, including English proficiency, in the future of the United States?
I will try to be on this afternoon's call.
JoAnn
JoAnn Weinberger
Co-Chair, Public Policy Committee
PAACE
On Jan 5, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Peter Waite pwaite@proliteracy.org wrote:
Hello Coalition members,
Attached is the final draft of our Presidential Survey and a response sheet. We attempted to incorporate as many comments as possible and add the response sheet as suggested by several members.
We can have one last review tomorrow on our call and if you cant make it please feel free to email back any final suggestions.
We have compiled a contact list but can use any others folks might have for the dissemination.
Once sent we will also post on the NCL website and feel use it anyway you can..it is clearly "open source" so adapt as necessary.
The call tomorrow and a tentative agenda is below. Talk to you then!
Peter
l
Jan 6th 4pm eastern
1-605-477-2100
Passcode 240804
Agenda items
Presidential Survey
Appropriations follow up
2017 and beyond appropriations
Caucus update
PETER A. WAITE | Executive Vice President
ProLiteracy | 104 Marcellus Street | Syracuse, NY 13204
p 315.214-2460 | f 315.422.6369 | pwaite@proliteracy.org
Find us and follow us on Facebook and Twitter.
Help ProLiteracy advance the cause of adult literacy.
Thanks for sharing and doing...
It's so important (for OUR field anyway) to try and engage future
candidates on this issue and hear if/how they would support literacy/adult
education.
Not sure this survey does that - or it does is a
non-committal/non-substance way. I still would like to go on record to say
that the questions we ask should require some sort of knowledge or rational
explanation about HOW they would support these various issues - so it's in
writing, AND so it demonstrates to us (the field) that they know what the
heck they're talking about. To me, funding/programs/initiatives mean
nothing (or little) without them being directed in the right way. I always
prefer to support candidates who provide more specifics and less with the
yesses and nos. Honestly, I can see most candidates who might respond to
this, circling extremely likely for all of these (on both sides and with
varying intentions) and my guess is few will add comments.
Can't be on the call, but my 2 cents...Happy New Year!
Jeff Fantine
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 7:13 PM, Peter Waite pwaite@proliteracy.org wrote:
Hello Coalition members,
Attached is the final draft of our Presidential Survey and a response
sheet. We attempted to incorporate as many comments as possible and add
the response sheet as suggested by several members.
We can have one last review tomorrow on our call and if you cant make it
please feel free to email back any final suggestions.
We have compiled a contact list but can use any others folks might have
for the dissemination.
Once sent we will also post on the NCL website and feel use it anyway you
can..it is clearly "open source" so adapt as necessary.
The call tomorrow and a tentative agenda is below. Talk to you then!
Peter
l
Jan 6th 4pm eastern
1-605-477-2100
Passcode 240804
Agenda items
Presidential Survey
Appropriations follow up
2017 and beyond appropriations
Caucus update
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Syracuse, NY 13204
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Hello All,
I appreciate your comments Jeff as I felt the same way about the questions. In an earlier post, I posited how we would be able to determine if their responses were simply what you have noted; campaign rhetoric with no substance. Is there a way to encourage them to provide details?
Thanks,
Tom Nash
COABE President
From: Members [mailto:members-bounces@lists.national-coalition-literacy.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Fantine
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 1:17 PM
To: Peter Waite
Cc: members@lists.national-coalition-literacy.org; Michele Bellso
Subject: Re: [NCL Members] Presidential Survey and PPC call reminder
Thanks for sharing and doing...
It's so important (for OUR field anyway) to try and engage future candidates on this issue and hear if/how they would support literacy/adult education.
Not sure this survey does that - or it does is a non-committal/non-substance way. I still would like to go on record to say that the questions we ask should require some sort of knowledge or rational explanation about HOW they would support these various issues - so it's in writing, AND so it demonstrates to us (the field) that they know what the heck they're talking about. To me, funding/programs/initiatives mean nothing (or little) without them being directed in the right way. I always prefer to support candidates who provide more specifics and less with the yesses and nos. Honestly, I can see most candidates who might respond to this, circling extremely likely for all of these (on both sides and with varying intentions) and my guess is few will add comments.
Can't be on the call, but my 2 cents...Happy New Year!
Jeff Fantine
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 7:13 PM, Peter Waite <pwaite@proliteracy.orgmailto:pwaite@proliteracy.org> wrote:
Hello Coalition members,
Attached is the final draft of our Presidential Survey and a response sheet. We attempted to incorporate as many comments as possible and add the response sheet as suggested by several members.
We can have one last review tomorrow on our call and if you cant make it please feel free to email back any final suggestions.
We have compiled a contact list but can use any others folks might have for the dissemination.
Once sent we will also post on the NCL website and feel use it anyway you can..it is clearly "open source" so adapt as necessary.
The call tomorrow and a tentative agenda is below. Talk to you then!
Peter
l
Jan 6th 4pm eastern
1-605-477-2100tel:1-605-477-2100
Passcode 240804
Agenda items
Presidential Survey
Appropriations follow up
2017 and beyond appropriations
Caucus update
PETER A. WAITE | Executive Vice President
ProLiteracyhttp://www.proliteracy.org/ | 104 Marcellus Street | Syracuse, NY 13204
p 315.214-2460tel:315.214-2460 | f 315.422.6369tel:315.422.6369 | pwaite@proliteracy.orgmailto:pwaite@proliteracy.org
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Tom, Jeff, and others,
One possibility to check for a candidate’s awareness of and commitment to adult literacy is to request the candidate's education position paper and review it to see what it says about adult basic education. In nearly all or all cases, however, we would be disappointed. The most fruitful approach, although not always possible, is to find out who the education person is for each candidate, try to find out someone who knows that person, and request a phone call or meeting to talk about the importance of addressing adult basic education. The goal would be to get adult basic education support into the education position paper.
Sending a letter and questionnaire, of course, may also be useful in raising a candidate’s attention to the issue.
David J. Rosen
djrosen123@gmail.com
On Jan 6, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Thomas Nash tnash@windhamraymondschools.org wrote:
Hello All,
I appreciate your comments Jeff as I felt the same way about the questions. In an earlier post, I posited how we would be able to determine if their responses were simply what you have noted; campaign rhetoric with no substance. Is there a way to encourage them to provide details?
Thanks,
Tom Nash
COABE President
From: Members [mailto:members-bounces@lists.national-coalition-literacy.org mailto:members-bounces@lists.national-coalition-literacy.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Fantine
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 1:17 PM
To: Peter Waite
Cc: members@lists.national-coalition-literacy.org mailto:members@lists.national-coalition-literacy.org; Michele Bellso
Subject: Re: [NCL Members] Presidential Survey and PPC call reminder
Thanks for sharing and doing...
It's so important (for OUR field anyway) to try and engage future candidates on this issue and hear if/how they would support literacy/adult education.
Not sure this survey does that - or it does is a non-committal/non-substance way. I still would like to go on record to say that the questions we ask should require some sort of knowledge or rational explanation about HOW they would support these various issues - so it's in writing, AND so it demonstrates to us (the field) that they know what the heck they're talking about. To me, funding/programs/initiatives mean nothing (or little) without them being directed in the right way. I always prefer to support candidates who provide more specifics and less with the yesses and nos. Honestly, I can see most candidates who might respond to this, circling extremely likely for all of these (on both sides and with varying intentions) and my guess is few will add comments.
Can't be on the call, but my 2 cents...Happy New Year!
Jeff Fantine
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 7:13 PM, Peter Waite <pwaite@proliteracy.org mailto:pwaite@proliteracy.org> wrote:
Hello Coalition members,
Attached is the final draft of our Presidential Survey and a response sheet. We attempted to incorporate as many comments as possible and add the response sheet as suggested by several members.
We can have one last review tomorrow on our call and if you cant make it please feel free to email back any final suggestions.
We have compiled a contact list but can use any others folks might have for the dissemination.
Once sent we will also post on the NCL website and feel use it anyway you can..it is clearly "open source" so adapt as necessary.
The call tomorrow and a tentative agenda is below. Talk to you then!
Peter
l
Jan 6th 4pm eastern
1-605-477-2100 tel:1-605-477-2100
Passcode 240804
Agenda items
Presidential Survey
Appropriations follow up
2017 and beyond appropriations
Caucus update
PETER A. WAITE | Executive Vice President
ProLiteracy http://www.proliteracy.org/ | 104 Marcellus Street | Syracuse, NY 13204
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This is a great discussion. Glad to see all this activity on the list.
I think that between no and the election, it would be a big win to be able to get at least some of the candidates to respond even in just a generally positive way. Beyond a few issues, candidates like to to avoid specifics anyway. The exceptions are things like tax plans or some other particularly hot issue — many candidates release a plan in those instances with some degree of detail, although when you look closely, specifics are usually still a bit lacking. Moreover, my guess is that no candidate, including campaign education staff, are well-versed enough in our issue(s) to be comfortable suggesting specific legislative initiatives — and politically, our issue probably doesn’t have the perceived constituent base for it to be worth (in their view) doing.
BUT, it seems to me that after the election, we can build on general expressions of support to develop (or for individual members to develop) a much more specific legislative agenda to propose as a way for the winning candidate to act on the general support they expressed. Developing a few legislative agenda items could be a next-step project after this one.
The survey also might help us better understand what strategy would most likely to appeal to certain candidates… i.e. what the hook might be to get them more interested in our issue (immigration reform, health, et.)
General expressions of support are also useful in that they are handy to cite when we come back in future years asking the President to include additional funding in their budget proposals.
Great work by all involved!
Jeff
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On Jan 6, 2016, at 2:15 PM, David Rosen djrosen123@gmail.com wrote:
Tom, Jeff, and others,
One possibility to check for a candidate’s awareness of and commitment to adult literacy is to request the candidate's education position paper and review it to see what it says about adult basic education. In nearly all or all cases, however, we would be disappointed. The most fruitful approach, although not always possible, is to find out who the education person is for each candidate, try to find out someone who knows that person, and request a phone call or meeting to talk about the importance of addressing adult basic education. The goal would be to get adult basic education support into the education position paper.
Sending a letter and questionnaire, of course, may also be useful in raising a candidate’s attention to the issue.
David J. Rosen
djrosen123@gmail.com mailto:djrosen123@gmail.com
On Jan 6, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Thomas Nash <tnash@windhamraymondschools.org mailto:tnash@windhamraymondschools.org> wrote:
Hello All,
I appreciate your comments Jeff as I felt the same way about the questions. In an earlier post, I posited how we would be able to determine if their responses were simply what you have noted; campaign rhetoric with no substance. Is there a way to encourage them to provide details?
Thanks,
Tom Nash
COABE President
From: Members [mailto:members-bounces@lists.national-coalition-literacy.org mailto:members-bounces@lists.national-coalition-literacy.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Fantine
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 1:17 PM
To: Peter Waite
Cc: members@lists.national-coalition-literacy.org mailto:members@lists.national-coalition-literacy.org; Michele Bellso
Subject: Re: [NCL Members] Presidential Survey and PPC call reminder
Thanks for sharing and doing...
It's so important (for OUR field anyway) to try and engage future candidates on this issue and hear if/how they would support literacy/adult education.
Not sure this survey does that - or it does is a non-committal/non-substance way. I still would like to go on record to say that the questions we ask should require some sort of knowledge or rational explanation about HOW they would support these various issues - so it's in writing, AND so it demonstrates to us (the field) that they know what the heck they're talking about. To me, funding/programs/initiatives mean nothing (or little) without them being directed in the right way. I always prefer to support candidates who provide more specifics and less with the yesses and nos. Honestly, I can see most candidates who might respond to this, circling extremely likely for all of these (on both sides and with varying intentions) and my guess is few will add comments.
Can't be on the call, but my 2 cents...Happy New Year!
Jeff Fantine
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 7:13 PM, Peter Waite <pwaite@proliteracy.org mailto:pwaite@proliteracy.org> wrote:
Hello Coalition members,
Attached is the final draft of our Presidential Survey and a response sheet. We attempted to incorporate as many comments as possible and add the response sheet as suggested by several members.
We can have one last review tomorrow on our call and if you cant make it please feel free to email back any final suggestions.
We have compiled a contact list but can use any others folks might have for the dissemination.
Once sent we will also post on the NCL website and feel use it anyway you can..it is clearly "open source" so adapt as necessary.
The call tomorrow and a tentative agenda is below. Talk to you then!
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Presidential Survey
Appropriations follow up
2017 and beyond appropriations
Caucus update
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Sorry about typo below in the first sentence of paragraph 2. Meant to write "I think that between now and the election…"
Jeff
On Jan 6, 2016, at 4:04 PM, Jeff Carter jcarter@literacypolicy.org wrote:
This is a great discussion. Glad to see all this activity on the list.
I think that between no and the election, it would be a big win to be able to get at least some of the candidates to respond even in just a generally positive way. Beyond a few issues, candidates like to to avoid specifics anyway. The exceptions are things like tax plans or some other particularly hot issue — many candidates release a plan in those instances with some degree of detail, although when you look closely, specifics are usually still a bit lacking. Moreover, my guess is that no candidate, including campaign education staff, are well-versed enough in our issue(s) to be comfortable suggesting specific legislative initiatives — and politically, our issue probably doesn’t have the perceived constituent base for it to be worth (in their view) doing.
BUT, it seems to me that after the election, we can build on general expressions of support to develop (or for individual members to develop) a much more specific legislative agenda to propose as a way for the winning candidate to act on the general support they expressed. Developing a few legislative agenda items could be a next-step project after this one.
The survey also might help us better understand what strategy would most likely to appeal to certain candidates… i.e. what the hook might be to get them more interested in our issue (immigration reform, health, et.)
General expressions of support are also useful in that they are handy to cite when we come back in future years asking the President to include additional funding in their budget proposals.
Great work by all involved!
Jeff
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On Jan 6, 2016, at 2:15 PM, David Rosen <djrosen123@gmail.com mailto:djrosen123@gmail.com> wrote:
Tom, Jeff, and others,
One possibility to check for a candidate’s awareness of and commitment to adult literacy is to request the candidate's education position paper and review it to see what it says about adult basic education. In nearly all or all cases, however, we would be disappointed. The most fruitful approach, although not always possible, is to find out who the education person is for each candidate, try to find out someone who knows that person, and request a phone call or meeting to talk about the importance of addressing adult basic education. The goal would be to get adult basic education support into the education position paper.
Sending a letter and questionnaire, of course, may also be useful in raising a candidate’s attention to the issue.
David J. Rosen
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On Jan 6, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Thomas Nash <tnash@windhamraymondschools.org mailto:tnash@windhamraymondschools.org> wrote:
Hello All,
I appreciate your comments Jeff as I felt the same way about the questions. In an earlier post, I posited how we would be able to determine if their responses were simply what you have noted; campaign rhetoric with no substance. Is there a way to encourage them to provide details?
Thanks,
Tom Nash
COABE President
From: Members [mailto:members-bounces@lists.national-coalition-literacy.org mailto:members-bounces@lists.national-coalition-literacy.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Fantine
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Subject: Re: [NCL Members] Presidential Survey and PPC call reminder
Thanks for sharing and doing...
It's so important (for OUR field anyway) to try and engage future candidates on this issue and hear if/how they would support literacy/adult education.
Not sure this survey does that - or it does is a non-committal/non-substance way. I still would like to go on record to say that the questions we ask should require some sort of knowledge or rational explanation about HOW they would support these various issues - so it's in writing, AND so it demonstrates to us (the field) that they know what the heck they're talking about. To me, funding/programs/initiatives mean nothing (or little) without them being directed in the right way. I always prefer to support candidates who provide more specifics and less with the yesses and nos. Honestly, I can see most candidates who might respond to this, circling extremely likely for all of these (on both sides and with varying intentions) and my guess is few will add comments.
Can't be on the call, but my 2 cents...Happy New Year!
Jeff Fantine
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 7:13 PM, Peter Waite <pwaite@proliteracy.org mailto:pwaite@proliteracy.org> wrote:
Hello Coalition members,
Attached is the final draft of our Presidential Survey and a response sheet. We attempted to incorporate as many comments as possible and add the response sheet as suggested by several members.
We can have one last review tomorrow on our call and if you cant make it please feel free to email back any final suggestions.
We have compiled a contact list but can use any others folks might have for the dissemination.
Once sent we will also post on the NCL website and feel use it anyway you can..it is clearly "open source" so adapt as necessary.
The call tomorrow and a tentative agenda is below. Talk to you then!
Peter
l
Jan 6th 4pm eastern
1-605-477-2100 tel:1-605-477-2100
Passcode 240804
Agenda items
Presidential Survey
Appropriations follow up
2017 and beyond appropriations
Caucus update
PETER A. WAITE | Executive Vice President
ProLiteracy http://www.proliteracy.org/ | 104 Marcellus Street | Syracuse, NY 13204
p 315.214-2460 tel:315.214-2460 | f 315.422.6369 tel:315.422.6369 | pwaite@proliteracy.org mailto:pwaite@proliteracy.org
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