Fuel consumption

MT
Malcolm Tennant
Tue, Oct 10, 2006 12:12 AM

There are currently a lot of figures flying around on the power catamaran
list for various types of boats and various power plants. I would like to
add a baseline to the figures being bandied about by adding to the mix the
figures for a vessel for which there exists very precise  data,
professionally measured, and also the means by which this data was obtained.

The power catamaran is a full displacement CS hull.  13.75m length overall ,
[44.29'] has an overall beam of 5m [16' 5"] and has a full load displacement
of 13,300kg [29,040lb]. Powered by 2 x 156kw[210hp] diesel inboard engines.
It has a top speed at full load displacement of 24.9knots and at a cruising
speed of 19 knots and uses 2.2 litres of diesel/nm at 19 knots . This is 41
litres per hour [a total of 10.83 us gals /hr].

There are some very important assumptions being made when making the
measurements [1] the engines reach their designed maximum rpm. [2] the
propellers are as efficient as they can be.

How was this data obtained?  The measurements were made by an independant
fuel consumption consultant company[ as they always are]. The boat was in
full load displacement [full fuel,full water,food and all the people] which
is the worse case scenario.  The measurements were made in flat water as it
is almost impossible to quantify rough water. The procedure was as follows:-
the fuel lines were cracked and a fully calibrated, certified, professional
fuel flow meter inserted into the system. The tachometers were calibrated
using a strobe light on the tail shaft.And the gearbox reductions were
recorded. It is important that both engines be checked because if the
propellers are contra rotating then it is possible that one gear box is
running in reverse and has a different reduction ratio. Which must be
determined to get the right engine rpms. The throttles were then opened
200rpms at a time until the maximum rpm is reached. Time on distance was
measured in each direction for each throttle opening.

It is very difficult to rely on tank tenders unless they are very carefully
calibrated. Given, that it is unlikely that your fuel tanks are uniform in
cross section, a dip stick also needs to  be calibrated.

It is a tedious and time consuming job obtaining accurate fuel figures but
it is the only way to be sure. It also serves as a check on the accuracy of
the vessels own fuel flow system which can be critically important on trans
ocean trips in adverse conditions.

Regards,

Malcolm Tennant.

Malcolm Tennant Multihull Design Ltd
PO Box 60513 Titirangi,
Waitakere 0642
NEW ZEALAND

ph +64 9 817 1988
fax +64 9 817 6080

e-mail malcolm@tennantdesign.co.nz
www.tennantdesign.co.nz
www.catdesigners.com

There are currently a lot of figures flying around on the power catamaran list for various types of boats and various power plants. I would like to add a baseline to the figures being bandied about by adding to the mix the figures for a vessel for which there exists very precise data, professionally measured, and also the means by which this data was obtained. The power catamaran is a full displacement CS hull. 13.75m length overall , [44.29'] has an overall beam of 5m [16' 5"] and has a full load displacement of 13,300kg [29,040lb]. Powered by 2 x 156kw[210hp] diesel inboard engines. It has a top speed at full load displacement of 24.9knots and at a cruising speed of 19 knots and uses 2.2 litres of diesel/nm at 19 knots . This is 41 litres per hour [a total of 10.83 us gals /hr]. There are some very important assumptions being made when making the measurements [1] the engines reach their designed maximum rpm. [2] the propellers are as efficient as they can be. How was this data obtained? The measurements were made by an independant fuel consumption consultant company[ as they always are]. The boat was in full load displacement [full fuel,full water,food and all the people] which is the worse case scenario. The measurements were made in flat water as it is almost impossible to quantify rough water. The procedure was as follows:- the fuel lines were cracked and a fully calibrated, certified, professional fuel flow meter inserted into the system. The tachometers were calibrated using a strobe light on the tail shaft.And the gearbox reductions were recorded. It is important that both engines be checked because if the propellers are contra rotating then it is possible that one gear box is running in reverse and has a different reduction ratio. Which must be determined to get the right engine rpms. The throttles were then opened 200rpms at a time until the maximum rpm is reached. Time on distance was measured in each direction for each throttle opening. It is very difficult to rely on tank tenders unless they are very carefully calibrated. Given, that it is unlikely that your fuel tanks are uniform in cross section, a dip stick also needs to be calibrated. It is a tedious and time consuming job obtaining accurate fuel figures but it is the only way to be sure. It also serves as a check on the accuracy of the vessels own fuel flow system which can be critically important on trans ocean trips in adverse conditions. Regards, Malcolm Tennant. Malcolm Tennant Multihull Design Ltd PO Box 60513 Titirangi, Waitakere 0642 NEW ZEALAND ph +64 9 817 1988 fax +64 9 817 6080 e-mail malcolm@tennantdesign.co.nz www.tennantdesign.co.nz www.catdesigners.com
GK
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Tue, Oct 10, 2006 11:44 AM

Malcolm Tennant wrote:

The power catamaran is a full displacement CS hull.  13.75m length overall ,
[44.29'] has an overall beam of 5m [16' 5"] and has a full load displacement
of 13,300kg [29,040lb]. Powered by 2 x 156kw[210hp] diesel inboard engines.
It has a top speed at full load displacement of 24.9knots and at a cruising
speed of 19 knots and uses 2.2 litres of diesel/nm at 19 knots . This is 41
litres per hour [a total of 10.83 us gals /hr].

Eleven gallons per hour at 19 knots when fully loaded sure is
impressive, Malcolm. Can you provide a URL for this boat?

--Georgs

Malcolm Tennant wrote: >The power catamaran is a full displacement CS hull. 13.75m length overall , >[44.29'] has an overall beam of 5m [16' 5"] and has a full load displacement >of 13,300kg [29,040lb]. Powered by 2 x 156kw[210hp] diesel inboard engines. >It has a top speed at full load displacement of 24.9knots and at a cruising >speed of 19 knots and uses 2.2 litres of diesel/nm at 19 knots . This is 41 >litres per hour [a total of 10.83 us gals /hr]. Eleven gallons per hour at 19 knots when fully loaded sure is impressive, Malcolm. Can you provide a URL for this boat? --Georgs
MT
Malcolm Tennant
Tue, Oct 10, 2006 8:16 PM

Dear Georgs,

The boat I was refering to was our Escape design. It can be seen on our web
site www.tennantdesign.co.nz or www.catdesigners.com .In the photograph of
the boat underway it is travelling at 16 knots and shows the typical lack of
wake associated with the CS hull form [unless you are travelling at the
hulls hump speed that is!]. There is also a comparison of performance and
fuel consumption in the "latest news" section for July 2004 [you will need
to scroll down quite a long way to see it]. For your interest the other
boats in the comparison were [1] Express monohull trawler was an Ocean
Alexander [2] the "semi displacement cat" [their words not mine] was a
Fontaine Pajot and [3] the planing cat was a Roger Hill design.

These boats were all professionally checked over the measured mile. This
really illustrates the point I was making earlier. If the builder/designers
of various boats make claims for their performance/fuel consumption , then
they need to be rigorously tested as far as it is possible to make any
comparisons meaningful.

Regards,

Malcolm.

ps. I was very "chuffed" to see my listing in the recently published
"Encyclopedia of Yacht Designers". It is mostly for my contribution to
sailing catamaran design but there is a mention of power cats.

Malcolm Tennant Multihull Design Ltd
PO Box 60513 Titirangi,
Waitakere 0642
NEW ZEALAND

ph +64 9 817 1988
fax +64 9 817 6080

e-mail malcolm@tennantdesign.co.nz
www.tennantdesign.co.nz
www.catdesigners.com

Dear Georgs, The boat I was refering to was our Escape design. It can be seen on our web site www.tennantdesign.co.nz or www.catdesigners.com .In the photograph of the boat underway it is travelling at 16 knots and shows the typical lack of wake associated with the CS hull form [unless you are travelling at the hulls hump speed that is!]. There is also a comparison of performance and fuel consumption in the "latest news" section for July 2004 [you will need to scroll down quite a long way to see it]. For your interest the other boats in the comparison were [1] Express monohull trawler was an Ocean Alexander [2] the "semi displacement cat" [their words not mine] was a Fontaine Pajot and [3] the planing cat was a Roger Hill design. These boats were all professionally checked over the measured mile. This really illustrates the point I was making earlier. If the builder/designers of various boats make claims for their performance/fuel consumption , then they need to be rigorously tested as far as it is possible to make any comparisons meaningful. Regards, Malcolm. ps. I was very "chuffed" to see my listing in the recently published "Encyclopedia of Yacht Designers". It is mostly for my contribution to sailing catamaran design but there is a mention of power cats. Malcolm Tennant Multihull Design Ltd PO Box 60513 Titirangi, Waitakere 0642 NEW ZEALAND ph +64 9 817 1988 fax +64 9 817 6080 e-mail malcolm@tennantdesign.co.nz www.tennantdesign.co.nz www.catdesigners.com
GK
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Wed, Oct 11, 2006 8:04 AM

The boat I was refering to was our Escape design. It can be seen on our web
site www.tennantdesign.co.nz or www.catdesigners.com .In the photograph of
the boat underway it is travelling at 16 knots and shows the typical lack of
wake associated with the CS hull form [unless you are travelling at the
hulls hump speed that is!]. There is also a comparison of performance and
fuel consumption in the "latest news" section for July 2004 [you will need
to scroll down quite a long way to see it]. For your interest the other
boats in the comparison were [1] Express monohull trawler was an Ocean
Alexander [2] the "semi displacement cat" [their words not mine] was a
Fontaine Pajot and [3] the planing cat was a Roger Hill design.

If you're having trouble finding the pages cited, the specific URLs are:

http://www.tennantdesign.co.nz/boatdesigns/71/Escape.htm

http://www.tennantdesign.co.nz/news.php?story=33

--Georgs

>The boat I was refering to was our Escape design. It can be seen on our web >site www.tennantdesign.co.nz or www.catdesigners.com .In the photograph of >the boat underway it is travelling at 16 knots and shows the typical lack of >wake associated with the CS hull form [unless you are travelling at the >hulls hump speed that is!]. There is also a comparison of performance and >fuel consumption in the "latest news" section for July 2004 [you will need >to scroll down quite a long way to see it]. For your interest the other >boats in the comparison were [1] Express monohull trawler was an Ocean >Alexander [2] the "semi displacement cat" [their words not mine] was a >Fontaine Pajot and [3] the planing cat was a Roger Hill design. If you're having trouble finding the pages cited, the specific URLs are: http://www.tennantdesign.co.nz/boatdesigns/71/Escape.htm http://www.tennantdesign.co.nz/news.php?story=33 --Georgs
M
mrchuckjohnson@aol.com
Wed, Oct 11, 2006 4:20 PM

What does this phrase mean: 'hulls hump speed'?

[unless you are travelling at the

hulls hump speed that is!].

-----Original Message-----
From: georgs@powercatamaranworld.com
To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 1:04 AM
Subject: Re: [PCW] Fuel consumption

The boat I was refering to was our Escape design. It can be seen on our web
site www.tennantdesign.co.nz or www.catdesigners.com .In the photograph of
the boat underway it is travelling at 16 knots and shows the typical lack of
wake associated with the CS hull form [unless you are travelling at the
hulls hump speed that is!]. There is also a comparison of performance and
fuel consumption in the "latest news" section for July 2004 [you will need
to scroll down quite a long way to see it]. For your interest the other
boats in the comparison were [1] Express monohull trawler was an Ocean
Alexander [2] the "semi displacement cat" [their words not mine] was a
Fontaine Pajot and [3] the planing cat was a Roger Hill design.

If you're having trouble finding the pages cited, the specific URLs are:

http://www.tennantdesign.co.nz/boatdesigns/71/Escape.htm

http://www.tennantdesign.co.nz/news.php?story=33

--Georgs


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What does this phrase mean: 'hulls hump speed'? [unless you are travelling at the >hulls hump speed that is!]. -----Original Message----- From: georgs@powercatamaranworld.com To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com Sent: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 1:04 AM Subject: Re: [PCW] Fuel consumption >The boat I was refering to was our Escape design. It can be seen on our web >site www.tennantdesign.co.nz or www.catdesigners.com .In the photograph of >the boat underway it is travelling at 16 knots and shows the typical lack of >wake associated with the CS hull form [unless you are travelling at the >hulls hump speed that is!]. There is also a comparison of performance and >fuel consumption in the "latest news" section for July 2004 [you will need >to scroll down quite a long way to see it]. For your interest the other >boats in the comparison were [1] Express monohull trawler was an Ocean >Alexander [2] the "semi displacement cat" [their words not mine] was a >Fontaine Pajot and [3] the planing cat was a Roger Hill design. If you're having trouble finding the pages cited, the specific URLs are: http://www.tennantdesign.co.nz/boatdesigns/71/Escape.htm http://www.tennantdesign.co.nz/news.php?story=33 --Georgs _______________________________________________ Power-Catamaran Mailing List ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.
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Malcolm Tennant
Wed, Oct 11, 2006 7:50 PM

"Hump speed" is a colloquial way of refering to the point of maximum
resistance on a hulls resistance curve. For a classic displacement hull it
is the maximum hull speed and corresponds to a Froude number of approx 0.4.

Malcolm tennant.

Malcolm Tennant Multihull Design Ltd
PO Box 60513 Titirangi,
Waitakere 0642
NEW ZEALAND

ph +64 9 817 1988
fax +64 9 817 6080

e-mail malcolm@tennantdesign.co.nz
www.tennantdesign.co.nz
www.catdesigners.com

"Hump speed" is a colloquial way of refering to the point of maximum resistance on a hulls resistance curve. For a classic displacement hull it is the maximum hull speed and corresponds to a Froude number of approx 0.4. Malcolm tennant. Malcolm Tennant Multihull Design Ltd PO Box 60513 Titirangi, Waitakere 0642 NEW ZEALAND ph +64 9 817 1988 fax +64 9 817 6080 e-mail malcolm@tennantdesign.co.nz www.tennantdesign.co.nz www.catdesigners.com
DC
D C *Mac* Macdonald
Wed, Oct 11, 2006 8:57 PM

I'd guess it is also the speed just below which
a planing hull goes "over the hump" and goes
onto plane (drops the bow back down).

D C "Mac" Macdonald
m/v Another Adventure
Grand Lake - Oklahoma

----Original Message Follows----
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Subject: Re: [PCW] Fuel consumption
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 08:50:06 +1300

"Hump speed" is a colloquial way of refering to the point of maximum
resistance on a hulls resistance curve. For a classic displacement hull it
is the maximum hull speed and corresponds to a Froude number of approx 0.4.

Malcolm Tennant.

Malcolm Tennant Multihull Design Ltd
PO Box 60513 Titirangi,
Waitakere 0642
NEW ZEALAND

I'd guess it is also the speed just below which a planing hull goes "over the hump" and goes onto plane (drops the bow back down). D C "Mac" Macdonald m/v Another Adventure Grand Lake - Oklahoma ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Malcolm Tennant" <malcolm@tennantdesign.co.nz> Reply-To: malcolm@tennantdesign.co.nz,Power Catamaran List <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> To: "Power Catamaran List" <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> Subject: Re: [PCW] Fuel consumption Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 08:50:06 +1300 "Hump speed" is a colloquial way of refering to the point of maximum resistance on a hulls resistance curve. For a classic displacement hull it is the maximum hull speed and corresponds to a Froude number of approx 0.4. Malcolm Tennant. Malcolm Tennant Multihull Design Ltd PO Box 60513 Titirangi, Waitakere 0642 NEW ZEALAND