To Executives and Selection Committee,

What are the criteria that have to be met in order to be eligible for selections? Because it appears that are none. There have been several examples that lead me to believe this. First, after 6 weeks of training, a player shows up to 1 training and is selected to play in the D2 game that weekend. Then, we are now 10 weeks into the season and a brand new player to the club shows up that week and gets selected to start in the D2 game. And finally, we have a player selected to start in the D2 that didn't make either training this week. In addition to that, he has missed many trainings throughout the season due to work. Not to mention, the game that he almost totally missed a couple weeks ago. Lol. Also, I was told by the head exec that certain players get preferential consideration when it comes to selections.

I think the criteria(if any exist) should be more transparent so everyone knows exactly what they are. It's get confusing because all the speeches and emails saying that you have to make training in order to be selected. I would appreciate clarity to this matter.

Thank you,

Doc Steve

Doc Steve,

The Execs and Selectors can address your concerns after today's games. We aim to have more transparency and dialogue amongst team members than years past.

However, this morning's primary concern is getting our work done on the field. We can address any off-field issues after we face Boulder and Queen City. Our focus today is moving up the D3 and D2 tables.

Quins, Saturday is a rugby day. Get to Cook early and get your heads on straight. Today we play for pride and for each other.

-Hofstra

Sent from my iPhone

Kris,

After another shady selection successfully pulled off. Has anybody come up with something? This should have been an easy question to answer.

Thanks,

Doc Steve

Subject: Re: [Rhino] Selections Question
From: kris.hofstra@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 07:15:07 -0600
CC: rhino@lists.denverharlequins.com
To: axischiro@msn.com

Doc Steve,
The Execs and Selectors can address your concerns after today's games. We aim to have more transparency and dialogue amongst team members than years past.
However, this morning's primary concern is getting our work done on the field. We can address any off-field issues after we face Boulder and Queen City. Our focus today is moving up the D3 and D2 tables.
Quins, Saturday is a rugby day. Get to Cook early and get your heads on straight. Today we play for pride and for each other.
-Hofstra
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 25, 2014, at 1:50 AM, Steve Klaus via Rhino rhino@lists.denverharlequins.com wrote:

To Executives and Selection Committee,

What are the criteria that have to be met in order to be eligible for selections? Because it appears that are none. There have been several examples that lead me to believe this. First, after 6 weeks of training, a player shows up to 1 training and is selected to play in the D2 game that weekend. Then, we are now 10 weeks into the season and a brand new player to the club shows up that week and gets selected to start in the D2 game. And finally, we have a player selected to start in the D2 that didn't make either training this week. In addition to that, he has missed many trainings throughout the season due to work. Not to mention, the game that he almost totally missed a couple weeks ago. Lol. Also, I was told by the head exec that certain players get preferential consideration when it comes to selections.

I think the criteria(if any exist) should be more transparent so everyone knows exactly what they are. It's get confusing because all the speeches and emails saying that you have to make training in order to be selected. I would appreciate clarity to this matter.

Thank you,

Doc Steve

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My answer is simple: If someone isn't being selected, then they should ask
the Head Coach and Assistant Coaches why not.

I have received only one inquiry from one player about selections all
season. He also spoke to our Head Coach, and his questions were answered.
In addition, I approached another on my own accord. Neither are unhappy.

If anyone has a concern about the process, then please e-mail me today or
tomorrow and I will air your grievance to the exec board and coaching
staff. We will be meeting later this week to discuss closing out the fall
season.

Good work this weekend gentlemen,

Kris Hofstra, Esq.Norton and Bowers, P.C.

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On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Steve Klaus axischiro@msn.com wrote:

Gents,As Kris stated we are meeting this week to go over this and other club business. As this has been a point of contention over the Spring season I would encourage you all to speak up on this topic.I am not looking to single people out here but to get a genuine feel of the club on this topic.  As the president one of my roles is ombusperson. If you do not want you name shared but your voice heard please email me directly and I will take your sentiments to the meeting anonymously as I have done in the past.
Thanks,Tom VylesDHRFC 

  From: Kris Hofstra via Rhino <rhino@lists.denverharlequins.com>

To: Steve Klaus axischiro@msn.com
Cc: "rhino@lists.denverharlequins.com" rhino@lists.denverharlequins.com
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhino] Selections Question

My answer is simple: If someone isn't being selected, then they should ask the Head Coach and Assistant Coaches why not. 
I have received only one inquiry from one player about selections all season. He also spoke to our Head Coach, and his questions were answered. In addition, I approached another on my own accord. Neither are unhappy. 
If anyone has a concern about the process, then please e-mail me today or tomorrow and I will air your grievance to the exec board and coaching staff. We will be meeting later this week to discuss closing out the fall season. 
Good work this weekend gentlemen,
Kris Hofstra, Esq.
Norton and Bowers, P.C.303-400-8100
2851 South Parker Road, Suite 230
Aurora, CO 80014
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On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Steve Klaus axischiro@msn.com wrote:

Kris,
 
After another shady selection successfully pulled off. Has anybody come up with something? This should have been an easy question to answer.
 
Thanks,
 
Doc Steve
 
Subject: Re: [Rhino] Selections Question
From: kris.hofstra@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 07:15:07 -0600
CC: rhino@lists.denverharlequins.com
To: axischiro@msn.com

Doc Steve,
The Execs and Selectors can address your concerns after today's games. We aim to have more transparency and dialogue amongst team members than years past. 
However, this morning's primary concern is getting our work done on the field. We can address any off-field issues after we face Boulder and Queen City. Our focus today is moving up the D3 and D2 tables.
Quins, Saturday is a rugby day. Get to Cook early and get your heads on straight. Today we play for pride and for each other. 
-Hofstra
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 25, 2014, at 1:50 AM, Steve Klaus via Rhino rhino@lists.denverharlequins.com wrote:

To Executives and Selection Committee,
 
What are the criteria that have to be met in order to be eligible for selections? Because it appears that are none. There have been several examples that lead me to believe this. First, after 6 weeks of training, a player shows up to 1 training and is selected to play in the D2 game that weekend. Then, we are now 10 weeks into the season and a brand new player to the club shows up that week and gets selected to start in the D2 game. And finally, we have a player selected to start in the D2 that didn't make either training this week. In addition to that, he has missed many trainings throughout the season due to work. Not to mention, the game that he almost totally missed a couple weeks ago. Lol. Also, I was told by the head exec that certain players get preferential consideration when it comes to selections.
 
I think the criteria(if any exist) should be more transparent so everyone knows exactly what they are. It's get confusing because all the speeches and emails saying that you have to make training in order to be selected. I would appreciate clarity to this matter.
 
Thank you,
 
Doc Steve
 

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Kris,

Yes your answer is simple, however it is fundamentally flawed and still didn't answer the question. Flawed because the issue isn't who is not but who is getting selected. First of all, most guys aren't going to wine to the coach that they aren't getting selected. However, doesn't mean that they aren't unhappy about guys getting selected that don't make the trainings. The majority do not like it but don't feel comfortable speaking out and just let it go. Secondly, I asked what are the criteria for selections. No need to respond to that at this point because I understand that you guys are meeting later this week and then will be able to explain what the criteria were/are.

Gentlemen,

This is your time to speak up if it bother's you that guys are getting selected that aren't making an appropriate amount of trainings. As well as just showing up for the first time and getting selected that week. I know some of you may not feel comfortable putting your thoughts to an email yourselves or just don't feel that you know Tom well enough to respond directly to him. Feel free to respond to me and I will add you to the list. I am also happy to hear if you have a different opinion on the matter.

Cheers,

Doc Steve

Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 17:32:15 +0000
To: rhino@lists.denverharlequins.com
Subject: Re: [Rhino] Selections Question
From: rhino@lists.denverharlequins.com

Gents,As Kris stated we are meeting this week to go over this and other club business. As this has been a point of contention over the Spring season I would encourage you all to speak up on this topic.I am not looking to single people out here but to get a genuine feel of the club on this topic.  As the president one of my roles is ombusperson. If you do not want you name shared but your voice heard please email me directly and I will take your sentiments to the meeting anonymously as I have done in the past.
Thanks,Tom VylesDHRFC

    From: Kris Hofstra via Rhino <rhino@lists.denverharlequins.com>

To: Steve Klaus axischiro@msn.com
Cc: "rhino@lists.denverharlequins.com" rhino@lists.denverharlequins.com
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhino] Selections Question

My answer is simple: If someone isn't being selected, then they should ask the Head Coach and Assistant Coaches why not.
I have received only one inquiry from one player about selections all season. He also spoke to our Head Coach, and his questions were answered. In addition, I approached another on my own accord. Neither are unhappy.
If anyone has a concern about the process, then please e-mail me today or tomorrow and I will air your grievance to the exec board and coaching staff. We will be meeting later this week to discuss closing out the fall season.
Good work this weekend gentlemen,Kris Hofstra, Esq.
Norton and Bowers, P.C.303-400-8100
2851 South Parker Road, Suite 230
Aurora, CO 80014
THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL TRANSMISSION IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL USE OF THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENT NAMED ABOVE. This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, notify us immediately by telephone at (303)400-8100 and do not disclose the contents, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium.

On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Steve Klaus axischiro@msn.com wrote:

Kris,

After another shady selection successfully pulled off. Has anybody come up with something? This should have been an easy question to answer.

Thanks,

Doc Steve

Subject: Re: [Rhino] Selections Question
From: kris.hofstra@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 07:15:07 -0600
CC: rhino@lists.denverharlequins.com
To: axischiro@msn.com

Doc Steve,
The Execs and Selectors can address your concerns after today's games. We aim to have more transparency and dialogue amongst team members than years past.
However, this morning's primary concern is getting our work done on the field. We can address any off-field issues after we face Boulder and Queen City. Our focus today is moving up the D3 and D2 tables.
Quins, Saturday is a rugby day. Get to Cook early and get your heads on straight. Today we play for pride and for each other.
-Hofstra
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 25, 2014, at 1:50 AM, Steve Klaus via Rhino rhino@lists.denverharlequins.com wrote:

To Executives and Selection Committee,

What are the criteria that have to be met in order to be eligible for selections? Because it appears that are none. There have been several examples that lead me to believe this. First, after 6 weeks of training, a player shows up to 1 training and is selected to play in the D2 game that weekend. Then, we are now 10 weeks into the season and a brand new player to the club shows up that week and gets selected to start in the D2 game. And finally, we have a player selected to start in the D2 that didn't make either training this week. In addition to that, he has missed many trainings throughout the season due to work. Not to mention, the game that he almost totally missed a couple weeks ago. Lol. Also, I was told by the head exec that certain players get preferential consideration when it comes to selections.

I think the criteria(if any exist) should be more transparent so everyone knows exactly what they are. It's get confusing because all the speeches and emails saying that you have to make training in order to be selected. I would appreciate clarity to this matter.

Thank you,

Doc Steve

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Speaking from experience, selections will never be 100% fair if you want to win, recruit and be competitive. I have been on both sides of this.

Don't let this issue divide this club or team. Very smart and dedicated people are running this club. If you have a concern about your playing time or selection, send tom an email directly. We are grown men here. This club is fair. The executive committee will not judge you for your input.

Stay as one unit and figure it out.

GO QUINS!

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Men,

E-mail me if you're concerned about selections. Or anything about how the club is being run. If you're unhappy, then I want to hear about it! If you're stoked on the changes this year, then send me a note about that, too! I do work all day, so I may not be able to respond to messages in lengthy detail, but I will share any thoughts at our Exec meeting tomorrow evening.

Please e-mail myself, Tom, Mikhail, or Stefan this evening or early tomorrow with anything you want us to know or talk about at the meeting.

-Hofstra

On Oct 28, 2014, at 7:23 PM, Michael via Rhino wrote: