>I just returned from a visit to Fla where I also paid a visit to a personal >friend who has just taken delivery (Dec 05) of a brand new Cabo 45 >sportfisher >(very hi quality vessel, probably close to a million dollars). >His point is he sure is glad he has a local dealer/distributor and a very >willing manufacturer to look after the problem. If you want to hear some horror stories about breaking in a brand new Cabo I can tell them to you first hand. No need to recycle the stories second or third hand. Just because you spend tons of bucks on a quality new boat doesn't guarantee trouble free break in. It's just like Brian explained about his friend with the 45' Cabo. What you hope to get with a reputable boat company is a quality, trained, courteous, and willing partner in your local dealer that will stand behind the manufacturers claims throughout the warranty period. Without that follow up most new boats are not worth near what you pay for them. I know all of this first hand. I would rank the follow up you receive from the dealer right up there in importance with the boat itself. >From: brian eiland <beiland@usa.net> >Reply-To: Power Catamaran List <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> >To: Power Catamaran List <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> >Subject: Re: [PCW] Power catamarans built overseas, was Endeavour versus >offshore manufacture >Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:06:04 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from lists.samurai.com ([205.207.28.81]) by >bay0-mc12-f6.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 23 >Feb 2006 16:06:14 -0800 >Received: from lists.samurai.com (lists.samurai.com [205.207.28.81])by >lists.samurai.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96FF750B69;Thu, 23 Feb 2006 >19:06:13 -0500 (EST) >Received: from localhost (lists.samurai.com [205.207.28.81]) >bylists.samurai.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEBB650B68 >for<power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com>; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:06:11 >-0500(EST) >Received: from lists.samurai.com ([205.207.28.81]) by >localhost(lists.samurai.com [205.207.28.81]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) >withLMTP id 17637-07-2 for <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com>; Thu, 23Feb >2006 19:06:09 -0500 (EST) >Received: from cmsout03.mbox.net (cmsout03.mbox.net [165.212.64.33]) >bylists.samurai.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC77150B5A >for<power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com>; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:06:09 >-0500(EST) >Received: from cmsout03.mbox.net (cmsout03.mbox.net [165.212.64.33]) >bycmsout03.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56540A2 >for<power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com>; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 00:06:08 >+0000(GMT) >Received: from cmsapps03.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.132] bycmsout03.mbox.net >via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.27I); Fri, 24 Feb 200600:06:08 GMT >Received: from uwdvg001.cms.usa.net [165.212.8.11] bycmsapps03.cms.usa.net >(ASMTP/) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.27E) with ESMTP id152kBXagF0418M39; Fri, 24 >Feb 2006 00:06:05 GMT >Received: from 69.139.158.4 [69.139.158.4] by uwdvg001.cms.usa.net (USANET >web-mailer CM.0402.7.36); Fri, 24 Feb 2006 00:06:04 -0000 >X-Message-Info: UZmYcfFpTCeaTZrJ52xlhgjlRxbdKD3TQAWo8hI3MnM= >X-Original-To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com >Delivered-To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com >X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.132 IN beiland@usa.net >cmsapps03.cms.usa.net >X-USANET-MsgId: XID105kBXagi1809X03 >X-USANET-Auth: 165.212.8.11 AUTO beiland@usa.net uwdvg001.cms.usa.net >X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (CM.0402.7.36) >Z-USANET-MsgId: XID152kBXagF0418X39 >X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at lists.samurai.com >X-BeenThere: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 >Precedence: list >List-Id: Power Catamaran List <power-catamaran.lists.samurai.com> >List-Unsubscribe: ><http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/power-catamaran>, ><mailto:power-catamaran-request@lists.samurai.com?subject=unsubscribe> >List-Archive: <http://lists.samurai.com/pipermail/power-catamaran> >List-Post: <mailto:power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> >List-Help: <mailto:power-catamaran-request@lists.samurai.com?subject=help> >List-Subscribe: ><http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/power-catamaran>,<mailto:power-catamaran-request@lists.samurai.com?subject=subscribe> >Errors-To: power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com >Return-Path: power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Feb 2006 00:06:14.0766 (UTC) >FILETIME=[209880E0:01C638D6] > > > Dennis OConnor wrote: > > >Making a $400,000 to $1,000,000 expenditure for an overseas boat, > > >where manufacturing defects after delivery have to be repaired by > > >some shipyard somewhere else in the world, where having a face to > > >face meeting with the factory over the issues requires you to fly > > >halfway around the world, just does not make sense to me... > >georgs replied: > > To be fair, it should be noted that a problem with one boat and one > > offshore manufacturer does not mean that all boats imported into the > > U.S. come with problems. > > > > It should also be noted that some overseas manufacturers--Lagoon of > > France and Afri-Cat of South Africa spring to mind--have sales > > offices and service support based in the U.S. > > > > As with any major purchase, look before you leap. Do due diligence > > regardless of where the builder is located. Even U.S. yards have had > > unhappy customers on occasion. >________________________________________________________ >Brian contributed: >I just returned from a visit to Fla where I also paid a visit to a personal >friend who has just taken delivery (Dec 05)of a brand new Cabo 45 >sportfisher >(very hi quality vessel, probably close to a million dollars). > >He related a story to me as how he experienced a problem with the generator >overheating due to cooling water pump impeller failure. Apparently when he >ran >the vessel up to full speed as suggested by the manufacture after each >usage, >the generator cooling water supply could get interuppted and thus the >impeller >would fail due to lack of water lubrication. The factory is currently >trying >to figure out a possible design/manufacturing flaw. > >His point is he sure is glad he has a local dealer/distributor and a very >willing manufacturer to look after the problem that appears somewhat minor, >but might have ended with a ruined generator unit on a brand new vessel (an >expensive proposison) > > >Brian Eiland > >beiland@usa.net >www.RunningTideYachts.com >distinctive expedition yachts >_______________________________________________ >Power-Catamaran Mailing List

I am considering the purchase of a new Scimitar 1010 (Australian built), factory direct. Would take possession down under and spend time. Any feedback on the boat or the factory? Regards, Scott Clark -----Original Message----- From: power-catamaran-bounces+southernvision=bellsouth.net@lists.samurai.com [mailto:power-catamaran-bounces+southernvision=bellsouth.net@lists.samur ai.com] On Behalf Of g stock Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 7:44 PM To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com Subject: Re: [PCW] Power catamarans built overseas, was Endeavour versus offshore manufacture >I just returned from a visit to Fla where I also paid a visit to a personal >friend who has just taken delivery (Dec 05) of a brand new Cabo 45 >sportfisher >(very hi quality vessel, probably close to a million dollars). >His point is he sure is glad he has a local dealer/distributor and a very >willing manufacturer to look after the problem. If you want to hear some horror stories about breaking in a brand new Cabo I can tell them to you first hand. No need to recycle the stories second or third hand. Just because you spend tons of bucks on a quality new boat doesn't guarantee trouble free break in. It's just like Brian explained about his friend with the 45' Cabo. What you hope to get with a reputable boat company is a quality, trained, courteous, and willing partner in your local dealer that will stand behind the manufacturers claims throughout the warranty period. Without that follow up most new boats are not worth near what you pay for them. I know all of this first hand. I would rank the follow up you receive from the dealer right up there in importance with the boat itself. >From: brian eiland <beiland@usa.net> >Reply-To: Power Catamaran List <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> >To: Power Catamaran List <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> >Subject: Re: [PCW] Power catamarans built overseas, was Endeavour versus >offshore manufacture >Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:06:04 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from lists.samurai.com ([205.207.28.81]) by >bay0-mc12-f6.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 23 >Feb 2006 16:06:14 -0800 >Received: from lists.samurai.com (lists.samurai.com [205.207.28.81])by >lists.samurai.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96FF750B69;Thu, 23 Feb 2006 >19:06:13 -0500 (EST) >Received: from localhost (lists.samurai.com [205.207.28.81]) >bylists.samurai.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEBB650B68 >for<power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com>; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:06:11 >-0500(EST) >Received: from lists.samurai.com ([205.207.28.81]) by >localhost(lists.samurai.com [205.207.28.81]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) >withLMTP id 17637-07-2 for <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com>; Thu, 23Feb >2006 19:06:09 -0500 (EST) >Received: from cmsout03.mbox.net (cmsout03.mbox.net [165.212.64.33]) >bylists.samurai.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC77150B5A >for<power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com>; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:06:09 >-0500(EST) >Received: from cmsout03.mbox.net (cmsout03.mbox.net [165.212.64.33]) >bycmsout03.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56540A2 >for<power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com>; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 00:06:08 >+0000(GMT) >Received: from cmsapps03.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.132] bycmsout03.mbox.net >via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.27I); Fri, 24 Feb 200600:06:08 GMT >Received: from uwdvg001.cms.usa.net [165.212.8.11] bycmsapps03.cms.usa.net >(ASMTP/) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.27E) with ESMTP id152kBXagF0418M39; Fri, 24 >Feb 2006 00:06:05 GMT >Received: from 69.139.158.4 [69.139.158.4] by uwdvg001.cms.usa.net (USANET >web-mailer CM.0402.7.36); Fri, 24 Feb 2006 00:06:04 -0000 >X-Message-Info: UZmYcfFpTCeaTZrJ52xlhgjlRxbdKD3TQAWo8hI3MnM= >X-Original-To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com >Delivered-To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com >X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.132 IN beiland@usa.net >cmsapps03.cms.usa.net >X-USANET-MsgId: XID105kBXagi1809X03 >X-USANET-Auth: 165.212.8.11 AUTO beiland@usa.net uwdvg001.cms.usa.net >X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (CM.0402.7.36) >Z-USANET-MsgId: XID152kBXagF0418X39 >X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at lists.samurai.com >X-BeenThere: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 >Precedence: list >List-Id: Power Catamaran List <power-catamaran.lists.samurai.com> >List-Unsubscribe: ><http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/power-catamaran>, ><mailto:power-catamaran-request@lists.samurai.com?subject=unsubscribe> >List-Archive: <http://lists.samurai.com/pipermail/power-catamaran> >List-Post: <mailto:power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> >List-Help: <mailto:power-catamaran-request@lists.samurai.com?subject=help> >List-Subscribe: ><http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/power-catamaran>,<mailto:pow er-catamaran-request@lists.samurai.com?subject=subscribe> >Errors-To: power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com >Return-Path: power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Feb 2006 00:06:14.0766 (UTC) >FILETIME=[209880E0:01C638D6] > > > Dennis OConnor wrote: > > >Making a $400,000 to $1,000,000 expenditure for an overseas boat, > > >where manufacturing defects after delivery have to be repaired by > > >some shipyard somewhere else in the world, where having a face to > > >face meeting with the factory over the issues requires you to fly > > >halfway around the world, just does not make sense to me... > >georgs replied: > > To be fair, it should be noted that a problem with one boat and one > > offshore manufacturer does not mean that all boats imported into the > > U.S. come with problems. > > > > It should also be noted that some overseas manufacturers--Lagoon of > > France and Afri-Cat of South Africa spring to mind--have sales > > offices and service support based in the U.S. > > > > As with any major purchase, look before you leap. Do due diligence > > regardless of where the builder is located. Even U.S. yards have had > > unhappy customers on occasion. >________________________________________________________ >Brian contributed: >I just returned from a visit to Fla where I also paid a visit to a personal >friend who has just taken delivery (Dec 05)of a brand new Cabo 45 >sportfisher >(very hi quality vessel, probably close to a million dollars). > >He related a story to me as how he experienced a problem with the generator >overheating due to cooling water pump impeller failure. Apparently when he >ran >the vessel up to full speed as suggested by the manufacture after each >usage, >the generator cooling water supply could get interuppted and thus the >impeller >would fail due to lack of water lubrication. The factory is currently >trying >to figure out a possible design/manufacturing flaw. > >His point is he sure is glad he has a local dealer/distributor and a very >willing manufacturer to look after the problem that appears somewhat minor, >but might have ended with a ruined generator unit on a brand new vessel (an >expensive proposison) > > >Brian Eiland > >beiland@usa.net >www.RunningTideYachts.com >distinctive expedition yachts >_______________________________________________ >Power-Catamaran Mailing List _______________________________________________ Power-Catamaran Mailing List

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>I am considering the purchase of a new Scimitar 1010 (Australian built), >factory direct. Would take possession down under and spend time. Any >feedback on the boat or the factory? >Regards, Scott Clark The Scimitar 1010 looks like a nice boat, Scott. http://www.modernboating.com.au/pg/boat_tests.php?id=132 What other boats are on your short list? Why do you prefer the Scimitar? --Georgs -- Georgs Kolesnikovs Power Catamaran World http://www.powercatamaranworld.com PS Do a search of our archives and you might find posts about the Scimitar. Here's the the easiest way to search the archives of Power Catamaran List and our sister forums: Go to http://www.google.com and enter your search term, followed by site:samurai.com (which is where the list archive is stored). For example, to search for "Scimitar power cats," try Scimitar power cats site:samurai.com You will actually have better luck omitting the words "power cats." In other words, the more specific your request, the more specific the return Scimitar site:samurai.com Try the example and see what wealth of information is available in the archives. Sometimes you will find that Google is out of synch with the archives and you will get the wrong post. In that case, click on the "Cached" link and you will get Google's own copy of the post.

As of now, I have yet to find another boat that's layout suits my needs - Large cockpit with factory dive/swim platform is highly functional for fishing and diving in mass. The fly bridge helm has good line of sight forward and aft with room for dingy (keeps cockpit and transom clear when fishing). Sea worthiness - excellent. Fuel efficiency - excellent. Quality of build - excellent. (Only model they have built for last twelve years). They did add an entrance to the head from the salon (optional). Negatives - Other side of the planet. No dealers. Only model built - boat is 36.5'X 16' beam. A few more feet would function better for long term livability. Existing berths are doubles & singles (I'm a big guy). I will be attending the Australian "Sanctuary Cove" boat show in May to get a look at all that down under offers. Any one else be there? >I am considering the purchase of a new Scimitar 1010 (Australian built), >factory direct. Would take possession down under and spend time. Any >feedback on the boat or the factory? >Regards, Scott Clark The Scimitar 1010 looks like a nice boat, Scott. What other boats are on your short list? Why do you prefer the Scimitar? --Georgs

Scott Clark wrote: > >I am considering the purchase of a new Scimitar 1010 (Australian >built), >>factory direct. Would take possession down under and spend time. In case you did not know, there is a Scimitar still shown for sale in San Francisco: http://monarchyachtsales.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?&units=Feet&checked_boats=1267151&slim=broker&&hosturl=monarchyachtsales&&ywo=monarchyachtsales& > I will be attending the Australian "Sanctuary Cove" boat show in May to >get a look at all that down under offers. Any one else be there? We have several members living in Australia, so perhaps they'll chime in about what I gather is the biggest such show Down Under. http://www.sanctuarycoveboatshow.com.au/ I have been thinking about attending the show but it will likely be a 2007 trip for me. --Georgs -- Georgs Kolesnikovs Power Catamaran World http://www.powercatamaranworld.com