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Re: [PUP] Ok, last time I'll ask this question: Paper Charts, really?

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PrncessKHY@aol.com
Mon, Apr 2, 2007 5:57 AM

Hey Scott,

This one is near and dear to me -- I love our paper charts and yes, we  carry
a full compliment, in addition to our Big Bay computer with  Nobletec and
Simrad C-Map dedicated chart plotters.  While we don't  necessarily keep a DR on
short passages, we intend to do so on the longer ones,  in the event of
lightening or some other unforeseen event.  We do, tho,  even on our day trips, keep
an hourly log of our location, so that we could  hopefully come pretty close
to knowing where we are at any given time given a  catastrophic failure of our
electrical system.  In any event, the paper  charts are out on the chart
table and being referenced every time we are  underway.

In some respects, I suppose, they are a security blanket for me.  I  love
being able to see the larger picture a paper chart provides, and many  times,
John and I have looked at them together while entering a harbor just to  get a
good overview of what we're seeing on the electronics (he swears by the
electronics).  On the other hand, he tends to navigate underway by keeping  the
Nobeltec out "far", while the C-Map has become "my" chart plotter and I keep  it in
a large scale mode, as I prefer to see every rock and hard object out  there.
I guess the paper charts bring it all back together for us --  haha.  In any
event, it seems to work for us and keeps us All Happy.

As to Bellingham Charts, I have nothing but good things to say about  them.
They have provided all of our charts and most of our cruising guides  for the
last 2 years and over 5000nm of cruising.  Jon Troxell there is a  very
knowledgeable and personable guy.  He provides charts for every  area of the world
and at competitive prices.  I can't say enough good  things about him and
highly recommend him and BC.

Yeah, stowage is an issue.  We're not buying all the charts at  once.  We've
just sold all our Washington, BC, and Alaska charts to make  room for the
Westcoast Us and Mexico charts.  Bellingham charts ships  anywhere, and if we
can't buy the charts we need from a cruiser going the  opposite direction, we'll
have them shipped to wherever we happen to be.

Kathy Y.
Mystic Moon

In a message dated 4/1/2007 10:37:13 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
scottebulger@comcast.net writes:

Ok, last  time I'll ask this question:

I just priced paper charts from Bellingham  Chart Printers.  For a trip from
Washington to New England, the  Leeward and Windward Islands, North Coast of
S. America.  It totals  730 charts at a cost of $3,609.  This is for 2/3 size
grayscale charts  (a savings of 75% of traditional charts).  For this money I
can buy  two laptops and cartography for the same regions.  I just have a
heck  of a hard time buying paper that I will likely never use.  So for  the
last time, you voyagers out there, do you REALLY have a complete  compliment
of paper charts for your long distance voyages?  How tall  is a stack of 730
paper charts?  Guess I just figured out what I'll do  with the bunk in the
pilot house.  Thanks!

Scott Bulger,  Alanui, N40II, Seattle  WA


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Hey Scott, This one is near and dear to me -- I love our paper charts and yes, we carry a full compliment, in addition to our Big Bay computer with Nobletec and Simrad C-Map dedicated chart plotters. While we don't necessarily keep a DR on short passages, we intend to do so on the longer ones, in the event of lightening or some other unforeseen event. We do, tho, even on our day trips, keep an hourly log of our location, so that we could hopefully come pretty close to knowing where we are at any given time given a catastrophic failure of our electrical system. In any event, the paper charts are out on the chart table and being referenced every time we are underway. In some respects, I suppose, they are a security blanket for me. I love being able to see the larger picture a paper chart provides, and many times, John and I have looked at them together while entering a harbor just to get a good overview of what we're seeing on the electronics (he swears by the electronics). On the other hand, he tends to navigate underway by keeping the Nobeltec out "far", while the C-Map has become "my" chart plotter and I keep it in a large scale mode, as I prefer to see every rock and hard object out there. I guess the paper charts bring it all back together for us -- haha. In any event, it seems to work for us and keeps us All Happy. As to Bellingham Charts, I have nothing but good things to say about them. They have provided all of our charts and most of our cruising guides for the last 2 years and over 5000nm of cruising. Jon Troxell there is a very knowledgeable and personable guy. He provides charts for every area of the world and at competitive prices. I can't say enough good things about him and highly recommend him and BC. Yeah, stowage is an issue. We're not buying all the charts at once. We've just sold all our Washington, BC, and Alaska charts to make room for the Westcoast Us and Mexico charts. Bellingham charts ships anywhere, and if we can't buy the charts we need from a cruiser going the opposite direction, we'll have them shipped to wherever we happen to be. Kathy Y. Mystic Moon In a message dated 4/1/2007 10:37:13 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, scottebulger@comcast.net writes: Ok, last time I'll ask this question: I just priced paper charts from Bellingham Chart Printers. For a trip from Washington to New England, the Leeward and Windward Islands, North Coast of S. America. It totals 730 charts at a cost of $3,609. This is for 2/3 size grayscale charts (a savings of 75% of traditional charts). For this money I can buy two laptops and cartography for the same regions. I just have a heck of a hard time buying paper that I will likely never use. So for the last time, you voyagers out there, do you REALLY have a complete compliment of paper charts for your long distance voyages? How tall is a stack of 730 paper charts? Guess I just figured out what I'll do with the bunk in the pilot house. Thanks! Scott Bulger, Alanui, N40II, Seattle WA _______________________________________________ Passagemaking Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World Productions, formerly known as Trawler World Productions. To be removed from the PUP list send an email with the subject "unsubscribe" (no quotes) to the link below: mailto:passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com Passagemaking-Under-Power Mailing List ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.