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Jeff Carter

Fri, May 8, 2020 4:18 PM

Most likely everyone has seen the headlines regarding the April job report this morning.

Most relevant for this group:

The unemployment rate for workers with only a high school diploma increased by 12.9%.

The unemployment rate for workers without a high school diploma increased by 14.4%.

I think I've always been under the impression that increasing unemployment generates more demand for adult education but I can't remember what kind of data there is to back that up. Any data from last recession that could be used to produce a model for what might happen this time?

At the same time, the damage to state and local budgets will likely be many, many times worse than during the last recession. So I would expect cuts to adult education programs could be even more severe than it was back then.

Apologies if a lot of this has already been discussed, but curious what others are thinking.

Jeff

Jeff Carter
Cell: (202) 374-4387 | @jeffcrtr

Senior Policy Advisor
National Coalition for Literacy
http://www.national-coalition-literacy.org/
mailto:jcarter@literacypolicy.org
Former President, Committee for Education Funding

Executive Director
Physicians for Social Responsibility

1111 14th St, NW, Suite 700

Washington, DC 20005

http://www.psr.org/ | mailto:jcarter@psr.org

Most likely everyone has seen the headlines regarding the April job report this morning. Most relevant for this group: The unemployment rate for workers with only a high school diploma increased by 12.9%. The unemployment rate for workers without a high school diploma increased by 14.4%. I think I've always been under the impression that increasing unemployment generates more demand for adult education but I can't remember what kind of data there is to back that up. Any data from last recession that could be used to produce a model for what might happen this time? At the same time, the damage to state and local budgets will likely be many, many times worse than during the last recession. So I would expect cuts to adult education programs could be even more severe than it was back then. Apologies if a lot of this has already been discussed, but curious what others are thinking. Jeff Jeff Carter Cell: (202) 374-4387 | @jeffcrtr Senior Policy Advisor National Coalition for Literacy http://www.national-coalition-literacy.org/ mailto:jcarter@literacypolicy.org Former President, Committee for Education Funding Executive Director Physicians for Social Responsibility 1111 14th St, NW, Suite 700 Washington, DC 20005 http://www.psr.org/ | mailto:jcarter@psr.org

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Sharon Bonney

Fri, May 8, 2020 5:47 PM

Jeff,
Thank you for sharing this! I just posted these numbers to my Facebook page.

Sharon Bonney

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From: Members members-bounces@lists.national-coalition-literacy.org on behalf of Jeff Carter jcarter@literacypolicy.org
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 12:18 PM
To: NCL List members@lists.national-coalition-literacy.org
Subject: [NCL Members] Job Numbers

Most likely everyone has seen the headlines regarding the April job report this morning.

Most relevant for this group:

The unemployment rate for workers with only a high school diploma increased by 12.9%.
The unemployment rate for workers without a high school diploma increased by 14.4%.

I think I've always been under the impression that increasing unemployment generates more demand for adult education but I can't remember what kind of data there is to back that up. Any data from last recession that could be used to produce a model for what might happen this time?
At the same time, the damage to state and local budgets will likely be many, many times worse than during the last recession. So I would expect cuts to adult education programs could be even more severe than it was back then.

Apologies if a lot of this has already been discussed, but curious what others are thinking.

Jeff

Jeff Carter
Cell: (202) 374-4387 | @jeffcrtr

Senior Policy Advisor
National Coalition for Literacy
www.national-coalition-literacy.org http://www.national-coalition-literacy.org/
jcarter@literacypolicy.org mailto:jcarter@literacypolicy.org
Former President, Committee for Education Funding

Executive Director

Physicians for Social Responsibility
1111 14th St, NW, Suite 700
Washington, DC 20005
www.psr.org http://www.psr.org/ | jcarter@psr.org mailto:jcarter@psr.org

Jeff, Thank you for sharing this! I just posted these numbers to my Facebook page. Sharon Bonney Chief Executive Officer | Coalition on Adult Basic Education | sharonmbonney@coabe.org P: 888-44-COABE (888-442-6223) | F: 866-941-5129 | www.COABE.org<http://www.coabe.org/> | PO Box 1820 Cicero, NY 13039 [cid:727bd1e9-6227-4765-b111-a0df04696712]<https://www.facebook.com/COABEHQ/> [cid:b8a62b69-9de8-4fad-a7bf-510964794653] <https://twitter.com/COABEHQ> [cid:5eb524fd-a585-4967-a8fe-6ffd08d58f27] <https://www.linkedin.com/company/coalition-on-adult-basic-education/> [cid:98e502ec-eb64-4d7e-8c63-22db0b40c69c] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvCmd7QzQq3e5XzawnVgnTg> [cid:b4fe8246-aadb-48a1-97cd-ae514fc0993a][cid:fc59a475-086f-4b79-ae0f-f613b5d8c447]<https://coabe.org/>[cid:37de11f2-8166-4997-9d23-9b1d84720b6e] ________________________________ From: Members <members-bounces@lists.national-coalition-literacy.org> on behalf of Jeff Carter <jcarter@literacypolicy.org> Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 12:18 PM To: NCL List <members@lists.national-coalition-literacy.org> Subject: [NCL Members] Job Numbers Most likely everyone has seen the headlines regarding the April job report this morning. Most relevant for this group: * The unemployment rate for workers with only a high school diploma increased by 12.9%. * The unemployment rate for workers without a high school diploma increased by 14.4%. I think I've always been under the impression that increasing unemployment generates more demand for adult education but I can't remember what kind of data there is to back that up. Any data from last recession that could be used to produce a model for what might happen this time? At the same time, the damage to state and local budgets will likely be many, many times worse than during the last recession. So I would expect cuts to adult education programs could be even more severe than it was back then. Apologies if a lot of this has already been discussed, but curious what others are thinking. Jeff Jeff Carter Cell: (202) 374-4387 | @jeffcrtr Senior Policy Advisor National Coalition for Literacy www.national-coalition-literacy.org<http://www.national-coalition-literacy.org/> jcarter@literacypolicy.org<mailto:jcarter@literacypolicy.org> Former President, Committee for Education Funding Executive Director Physicians for Social Responsibility 1111 14th St, NW, Suite 700 Washington, DC 20005 www.psr.org<http://www.psr.org/> | jcarter@psr.org<mailto:jcarter@psr.org>

MR

margaret researchallies.org

Fri, May 8, 2020 8:41 PM

Hi, everyone,
To start to answer Jeff's question, the graph below might prove helpful. Research Allies for Lifelong Learning has kept track of the total number of people participating in U.S. adult education annually since 2005-6, from the National Reporting System. Adult education participation did rise in 2008-9 at the height of the recession. It increased that year by 63,341 adults, which represents about a 3% increase. It likely increased more in some states than others. But given that the USA loses an average 100,000 adults in enrollment annually, stopping that loss and gaining that many adults suggests that at least in the short term, higher unemployment tended to draw more adults into programs.

As we all know, the unemployment rate currently is much higher than in 2008-9, and unfortunately, adults may find it challenging to access program services right now as programs deal with the pandemic. So it's difficult to predict what will happen. E-BAES is currently gathering information from around the country on how adult education programs and states are coping and will share the findings publicly when they are analyzed.

Take care,
Margaret

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From: Members members-bounces@lists.national-coalition-literacy.org On Behalf Of Sharon Bonney
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 1:48 PM
To: Jeff Carter jcarter@literacypolicy.org; NCL List members@lists.national-coalition-literacy.org
Subject: Re: [NCL Members] Job Numbers

Jeff,
Thank you for sharing this! I just posted these numbers to my Facebook page.

Sharon Bonney

[cid:image003.png@01D62552.B756E6C0]https://www.facebook.com/COABEHQ/[cid:image004.png@01D62552.B756E6C0]https://twitter.com/COABEHQ[cid:image005.png@01D62552.B756E6C0]https://www.linkedin.com/company/coalition-on-adult-basic-education/[cid:image006.png@01D62552.B756E6C0]https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvCmd7QzQq3e5XzawnVgnTg

[cid:image007.jpg@01D62557.795C6890][cid:image008.jpg@01D62557.795C6890]https://coabe.org/[cid:image009.jpg@01D62557.795C6890]

From: Members <members-bounces@lists.national-coalition-literacy.org mailto:members-bounces@lists.national-coalition-literacy.org> on behalf of Jeff Carter <jcarter@literacypolicy.org mailto:jcarter@literacypolicy.org>
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 12:18 PM
To: NCL List <members@lists.national-coalition-literacy.org mailto:members@lists.national-coalition-literacy.org>
Subject: [NCL Members] Job Numbers

Most likely everyone has seen the headlines regarding the April job report this morning.

Most relevant for this group:

The unemployment rate for workers with only a high school diploma increased by 12.9%.
The unemployment rate for workers without a high school diploma increased by 14.4%.
I think I've always been under the impression that increasing unemployment generates more demand for adult education but I can't remember what kind of data there is to back that up. Any data from last recession that could be used to produce a model for what might happen this time?
At the same time, the damage to state and local budgets will likely be many, many times worse than during the last recession. So I would expect cuts to adult education programs could be even more severe than it was back then.

Apologies if a lot of this has already been discussed, but curious what others are thinking.

Jeff

Jeff Carter
Cell: (202) 374-4387 | @jeffcrtr

Senior Policy Advisor
National Coalition for Literacy
www.national-coalition-literacy.org http://www.national-coalition-literacy.org/
jcarter@literacypolicy.org mailto:jcarter@literacypolicy.org
Former President, Committee for Education Funding

Executive Director
Physicians for Social Responsibility
1111 14th St, NW, Suite 700
Washington, DC 20005
www.psr.org http://www.psr.org/ | jcarter@psr.org mailto:jcarter@psr.org

Hi, everyone, To start to answer Jeff's question, the graph below might prove helpful. Research Allies for Lifelong Learning has kept track of the total number of people participating in U.S. adult education annually since 2005-6, from the National Reporting System. Adult education participation did rise in 2008-9 at the height of the recession. It increased that year by 63,341 adults, which represents about a 3% increase. It likely increased more in some states than others. But given that the USA loses an average 100,000 adults in enrollment annually, stopping that loss and gaining that many adults suggests that at least in the short term, higher unemployment tended to draw more adults into programs. As we all know, the unemployment rate currently is much higher than in 2008-9, and unfortunately, adults may find it challenging to access program services right now as programs deal with the pandemic. So it's difficult to predict what will happen. E-BAES is currently gathering information from around the country on how adult education programs and states are coping and will share the findings publicly when they are analyzed. Take care, Margaret [A screenshot of a cell phone Description automatically generated] From: Members <members-bounces@lists.national-coalition-literacy.org> On Behalf Of Sharon Bonney Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 1:48 PM To: Jeff Carter <jcarter@literacypolicy.org>; NCL List <members@lists.national-coalition-literacy.org> Subject: Re: [NCL Members] Job Numbers Jeff, Thank you for sharing this! I just posted these numbers to my Facebook page. Sharon Bonney Chief Executive Officer | Coalition on Adult Basic Education | sharonmbonney@coabe.org<mailto:sharonmbonney@coabe.org> P: 888-44-COABE (888-442-6223) | F: 866-941-5129 | www.COABE.org<http://www.coabe.org/> | PO Box 1820 Cicero, NY 13039 [cid:image003.png@01D62552.B756E6C0]<https://www.facebook.com/COABEHQ/>[cid:image004.png@01D62552.B756E6C0]<https://twitter.com/COABEHQ>[cid:image005.png@01D62552.B756E6C0]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/coalition-on-adult-basic-education/>[cid:image006.png@01D62552.B756E6C0]<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvCmd7QzQq3e5XzawnVgnTg> [cid:image007.jpg@01D62557.795C6890][cid:image008.jpg@01D62557.795C6890]<https://coabe.org/>[cid:image009.jpg@01D62557.795C6890] ________________________________ From: Members <members-bounces@lists.national-coalition-literacy.org<mailto:members-bounces@lists.national-coalition-literacy.org>> on behalf of Jeff Carter <jcarter@literacypolicy.org<mailto:jcarter@literacypolicy.org>> Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 12:18 PM To: NCL List <members@lists.national-coalition-literacy.org<mailto:members@lists.national-coalition-literacy.org>> Subject: [NCL Members] Job Numbers Most likely everyone has seen the headlines regarding the April job report this morning. Most relevant for this group: * The unemployment rate for workers with only a high school diploma increased by 12.9%. * The unemployment rate for workers without a high school diploma increased by 14.4%. I think I've always been under the impression that increasing unemployment generates more demand for adult education but I can't remember what kind of data there is to back that up. Any data from last recession that could be used to produce a model for what might happen this time? At the same time, the damage to state and local budgets will likely be many, many times worse than during the last recession. So I would expect cuts to adult education programs could be even more severe than it was back then. Apologies if a lot of this has already been discussed, but curious what others are thinking. Jeff Jeff Carter Cell: (202) 374-4387 | @jeffcrtr Senior Policy Advisor National Coalition for Literacy www.national-coalition-literacy.org<http://www.national-coalition-literacy.org/> jcarter@literacypolicy.org<mailto:jcarter@literacypolicy.org> Former President, Committee for Education Funding Executive Director Physicians for Social Responsibility 1111 14th St, NW, Suite 700 Washington, DC 20005 www.psr.org<http://www.psr.org/> | jcarter@psr.org<mailto:jcarter@psr.org>