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CG
Carrier Graphics
Wed, Aug 22, 2007 3:04 PM

A question about shorebirds:

Here in CT, we tend to see many shorebirds migrating east or west respectively along the shore
during the spring and fall migration. My question is; are most of these birds arriving at the
different shorelines of CT by following shorelines to the north (fall) or south (spring) or might
most or some of them be arriving at our shores (esp in the fall) from overland flights? CT having
a west to east running shoreline might make a difference.

We tend to see some numbers of these shorebirds regularly inland here in CT during the two
migrations. Most inland sightings seem to be concentrated at or near our north to south running
rivers such as the CT river. Might our rivers be important to some of these species migrations to
follow south or north?  Not much seems to be written about this of our State. Might someone shed
some light on this question here on this site?

Note of interest: Over the 30 years living in the town of Harwinton CT, a hilly, mountainous area
in the northwest corner bordered on the west by the Naugatuck river, I have discovered many
shorebird species seen in this town near water, on the ground or as fly overs.
Some are: Black-b-Plover, 2 Golden Plover (flyover), Semi-Plover, Dowitcher sp, Red Knot (15
flyover), Both Yellowlegs, Sanderlings (flock of 50+ flyovers), Pectoral, 2 Buff breasted (at high
school), 4Dunlin (at lake), Least, Semi Sandpipers. Also seen as flyovers: Common Tern, Laughing
Gull, Bonaparte's Gull, Glossy ibis.

Looking forward to any answers or sugestions.

Paul Carrier

A question about shorebirds: Here in CT, we tend to see many shorebirds migrating east or west respectively along the shore during the spring and fall migration. My question is; are most of these birds arriving at the different shorelines of CT by following shorelines to the north (fall) or south (spring) or might most or some of them be arriving at our shores (esp in the fall) from overland flights? CT having a west to east running shoreline might make a difference. We tend to see some numbers of these shorebirds regularly inland here in CT during the two migrations. Most inland sightings seem to be concentrated at or near our north to south running rivers such as the CT river. Might our rivers be important to some of these species migrations to follow south or north? Not much seems to be written about this of our State. Might someone shed some light on this question here on this site? Note of interest: Over the 30 years living in the town of Harwinton CT, a hilly, mountainous area in the northwest corner bordered on the west by the Naugatuck river, I have discovered many shorebird species seen in this town near water, on the ground or as fly overs. Some are: Black-b-Plover, 2 Golden Plover (flyover), Semi-Plover, Dowitcher sp, Red Knot (15 flyover), Both Yellowlegs, Sanderlings (flock of 50+ flyovers), Pectoral, 2 Buff breasted (at high school), 4Dunlin (at lake), Least, Semi Sandpipers. Also seen as flyovers: Common Tern, Laughing Gull, Bonaparte's Gull, Glossy ibis. Looking forward to any answers or sugestions. Paul Carrier
MS
Mark Szantyr
Wed, Aug 22, 2007 3:28 PM

This is an interesting question.  I have lived in the northeast hills for a
while and have had the opportunity to bird the Mansfield Hollow Reservoir
and adjacent Windham Airport.  In years when the water in the reservoir is
drawn down, the shorebird migration is stellar.  While doing regular surveys
in years past, in one season, I  have recorded a flock of 45 Pectoral
Sandpipers, up to 4 Western Sandpipers, 9 Baird's Sandpipers, 3
Buff-breasted Sandpipers,  over 50 American Golden Plovers, 15-20
White-rumped Sandpipers, a dozen Upland Sandpipers, numerous Least and
Semipalmated Sandpipers, several Semipalmated Plovers, and both Yellowlegs,
Solitary Sandpipers, Spotted Sandpipers ( they nest here) many Wilson's
Snipe, a few Black-bellied Plovers, two Ruddy Turnstones, countless
Killdeer, two Whimbrel, and a Long-billed Curlew.  If habitat is available,
I think that these inland mud flats are heavily used by migrant shrebirds,
maybe not in the same numbers as along the coast, but the habitat is far
more limited.  I am also reminded that while birding a drawn down lake in
Waterbury, in with a large number of Pectoral Sandpipers, I recorded a
Sharp-tailed Sandpiper.  I think it is about habitat availability.  A large
number of shrebirds obviously migrate overland to the coast.

Mark
Mark S.Szantyr
80 Bicknell Road
Apt. 9
Ashford, CT 06278
USA

Birddog55@Charter.net
860-487-9766
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carrier Graphics" carriergraphics@sbcglobal.net
To: ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 11:04 AM
Subject: [CT Birds] another question....

A question about shorebirds:

Here in CT, we tend to see many shorebirds migrating east or west
respectively along the shore
during the spring and fall migration. My question is; are most of these
birds arriving at the
different shorelines of CT by following shorelines to the north (fall) or
south (spring) or might
most or some of them be arriving at our shores (esp in the fall) from
overland flights? CT having
a west to east running shoreline might make a difference.

We tend to see some numbers of these shorebirds regularly inland here in
CT during the two
migrations. Most inland sightings seem to be concentrated at or near our
north to south running
rivers such as the CT river. Might our rivers be important to some of
these species migrations to
follow south or north?  Not much seems to be written about this of our
State. Might someone shed
some light on this question here on this site?

Note of interest: Over the 30 years living in the town of Harwinton CT, a
hilly, mountainous area
in the northwest corner bordered on the west by the Naugatuck river, I
have discovered many
shorebird species seen in this town near water, on the ground or as fly
overs.
Some are: Black-b-Plover, 2 Golden Plover (flyover), Semi-Plover,
Dowitcher sp, Red Knot (15
flyover), Both Yellowlegs, Sanderlings (flock of 50+ flyovers), Pectoral,
2 Buff breasted (at high
school), 4Dunlin (at lake), Least, Semi Sandpipers. Also seen as flyovers:
Common Tern, Laughing
Gull, Bonaparte's Gull, Glossy ibis.

Looking forward to any answers or sugestions.

Paul Carrier


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This is an interesting question. I have lived in the northeast hills for a while and have had the opportunity to bird the Mansfield Hollow Reservoir and adjacent Windham Airport. In years when the water in the reservoir is drawn down, the shorebird migration is stellar. While doing regular surveys in years past, in one season, I have recorded a flock of 45 Pectoral Sandpipers, up to 4 Western Sandpipers, 9 Baird's Sandpipers, 3 Buff-breasted Sandpipers, over 50 American Golden Plovers, 15-20 White-rumped Sandpipers, a dozen Upland Sandpipers, numerous Least and Semipalmated Sandpipers, several Semipalmated Plovers, and both Yellowlegs, Solitary Sandpipers, Spotted Sandpipers ( they nest here) many Wilson's Snipe, a few Black-bellied Plovers, two Ruddy Turnstones, countless Killdeer, two Whimbrel, and a Long-billed Curlew. If habitat is available, I think that these inland mud flats are heavily used by migrant shrebirds, maybe not in the same numbers as along the coast, but the habitat is far more limited. I am also reminded that while birding a drawn down lake in Waterbury, in with a large number of Pectoral Sandpipers, I recorded a Sharp-tailed Sandpiper. I think it is about habitat availability. A large number of shrebirds obviously migrate overland to the coast. Mark Mark S.Szantyr 80 Bicknell Road Apt. 9 Ashford, CT 06278 USA Birddog55@Charter.net 860-487-9766 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carrier Graphics" <carriergraphics@sbcglobal.net> To: <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 11:04 AM Subject: [CT Birds] another question.... >A question about shorebirds: > > Here in CT, we tend to see many shorebirds migrating east or west > respectively along the shore > during the spring and fall migration. My question is; are most of these > birds arriving at the > different shorelines of CT by following shorelines to the north (fall) or > south (spring) or might > most or some of them be arriving at our shores (esp in the fall) from > overland flights? CT having > a west to east running shoreline might make a difference. > > We tend to see some numbers of these shorebirds regularly inland here in > CT during the two > migrations. Most inland sightings seem to be concentrated at or near our > north to south running > rivers such as the CT river. Might our rivers be important to some of > these species migrations to > follow south or north? Not much seems to be written about this of our > State. Might someone shed > some light on this question here on this site? > > Note of interest: Over the 30 years living in the town of Harwinton CT, a > hilly, mountainous area > in the northwest corner bordered on the west by the Naugatuck river, I > have discovered many > shorebird species seen in this town near water, on the ground or as fly > overs. > Some are: Black-b-Plover, 2 Golden Plover (flyover), Semi-Plover, > Dowitcher sp, Red Knot (15 > flyover), Both Yellowlegs, Sanderlings (flock of 50+ flyovers), Pectoral, > 2 Buff breasted (at high > school), 4Dunlin (at lake), Least, Semi Sandpipers. Also seen as flyovers: > Common Tern, Laughing > Gull, Bonaparte's Gull, Glossy ibis. > > Looking forward to any answers or sugestions. > > Paul Carrier > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) > for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > For subscription information visit > http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org >
MS
Mark Szantyr
Wed, Aug 22, 2007 3:29 PM

I forgot to mention both long-billed and Short-billed Dowitchers at the
Mansfield location.

Mark

Mark S.Szantyr
80 Bicknell Road
Apt. 9
Ashford, CT 06278
USA

Birddog55@Charter.net
860-487-9766
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carrier Graphics" carriergraphics@sbcglobal.net
To: ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 11:04 AM
Subject: [CT Birds] another question....

A question about shorebirds:

Here in CT, we tend to see many shorebirds migrating east or west
respectively along the shore
during the spring and fall migration. My question is; are most of these
birds arriving at the
different shorelines of CT by following shorelines to the north (fall) or
south (spring) or might
most or some of them be arriving at our shores (esp in the fall) from
overland flights? CT having
a west to east running shoreline might make a difference.

We tend to see some numbers of these shorebirds regularly inland here in
CT during the two
migrations. Most inland sightings seem to be concentrated at or near our
north to south running
rivers such as the CT river. Might our rivers be important to some of
these species migrations to
follow south or north?  Not much seems to be written about this of our
State. Might someone shed
some light on this question here on this site?

Note of interest: Over the 30 years living in the town of Harwinton CT, a
hilly, mountainous area
in the northwest corner bordered on the west by the Naugatuck river, I
have discovered many
shorebird species seen in this town near water, on the ground or as fly
overs.
Some are: Black-b-Plover, 2 Golden Plover (flyover), Semi-Plover,
Dowitcher sp, Red Knot (15
flyover), Both Yellowlegs, Sanderlings (flock of 50+ flyovers), Pectoral,
2 Buff breasted (at high
school), 4Dunlin (at lake), Least, Semi Sandpipers. Also seen as flyovers:
Common Tern, Laughing
Gull, Bonaparte's Gull, Glossy ibis.

Looking forward to any answers or sugestions.

Paul Carrier


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for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut.
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I forgot to mention both long-billed and Short-billed Dowitchers at the Mansfield location. Mark Mark S.Szantyr 80 Bicknell Road Apt. 9 Ashford, CT 06278 USA Birddog55@Charter.net 860-487-9766 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carrier Graphics" <carriergraphics@sbcglobal.net> To: <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 11:04 AM Subject: [CT Birds] another question.... >A question about shorebirds: > > Here in CT, we tend to see many shorebirds migrating east or west > respectively along the shore > during the spring and fall migration. My question is; are most of these > birds arriving at the > different shorelines of CT by following shorelines to the north (fall) or > south (spring) or might > most or some of them be arriving at our shores (esp in the fall) from > overland flights? CT having > a west to east running shoreline might make a difference. > > We tend to see some numbers of these shorebirds regularly inland here in > CT during the two > migrations. Most inland sightings seem to be concentrated at or near our > north to south running > rivers such as the CT river. Might our rivers be important to some of > these species migrations to > follow south or north? Not much seems to be written about this of our > State. Might someone shed > some light on this question here on this site? > > Note of interest: Over the 30 years living in the town of Harwinton CT, a > hilly, mountainous area > in the northwest corner bordered on the west by the Naugatuck river, I > have discovered many > shorebird species seen in this town near water, on the ground or as fly > overs. > Some are: Black-b-Plover, 2 Golden Plover (flyover), Semi-Plover, > Dowitcher sp, Red Knot (15 > flyover), Both Yellowlegs, Sanderlings (flock of 50+ flyovers), Pectoral, > 2 Buff breasted (at high > school), 4Dunlin (at lake), Least, Semi Sandpipers. Also seen as flyovers: > Common Tern, Laughing > Gull, Bonaparte's Gull, Glossy ibis. > > Looking forward to any answers or sugestions. > > Paul Carrier > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) > for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > For subscription information visit > http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org >
RG
Ross Geredien/Good Migrations
Wed, Aug 22, 2007 3:37 PM

Paul,

   Many shorebirds are migrating from the interior high arctic as well as from all along the arctic shoreline, and so they often migrate along a broad front.  Rarely do they head east and then down the Atlantic coast from Labrador.  In my estimation, they arc Southeast from the tundra slopes as far west as Alaska.  CT's east-west shoreline is a natural stopover point for many birds following this type of overland route.  The fact that many shorebird stopover areas are concentrated at the mouths of rivers is no coincidence, as this is common throughout the world.  River deltas and estuaries are natural stopover habitats with large concentrations of wetlands and marshes.  And because the river floodplains themselves often have excellent gravel bars, mudflats, and adjacent wetlands, these systems make natural migratory routes.
     So I would estimate that many of CT's shorebirds are migrating overland and stopping along the shore.  Rhode Island on the other hand may see more birds leaving the maritimes, stopping at Cape Cod and then heading for Eastern Long Island.  Unlike hawks, shorebirds are not dependent on thermals, however, and so they would not "hug" the coastline for Greenwich, as Broad-wings do.

Ross

Carrier Graphics carriergraphics@sbcglobal.net wrote:
A question about shorebirds:

Here in CT, we tend to see many shorebirds migrating east or west respectively along the shore
during the spring and fall migration. My question is; are most of these birds arriving at the
different shorelines of CT by following shorelines to the north (fall) or south (spring) or might
most or some of them be arriving at our shores (esp in the fall) from overland flights? CT having
a west to east running shoreline might make a difference.

We tend to see some numbers of these shorebirds regularly inland here in CT during the two
migrations. Most inland sightings seem to be concentrated at or near our north to south running
rivers such as the CT river. Might our rivers be important to some of these species migrations to
follow south or north? Not much seems to be written about this of our State. Might someone shed
some light on this question here on this site?

Note of interest: Over the 30 years living in the town of Harwinton CT, a hilly, mountainous area
in the northwest corner bordered on the west by the Naugatuck river, I have discovered many
shorebird species seen in this town near water, on the ground or as fly overs.
Some are: Black-b-Plover, 2 Golden Plover (flyover), Semi-Plover, Dowitcher sp, Red Knot (15
flyover), Both Yellowlegs, Sanderlings (flock of 50+ flyovers), Pectoral, 2 Buff breasted (at high
school), 4Dunlin (at lake), Least, Semi Sandpipers. Also seen as flyovers: Common Tern, Laughing
Gull, Bonaparte's Gull, Glossy ibis.

Looking forward to any answers or sugestions.

Paul Carrier


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Paul, Many shorebirds are migrating from the interior high arctic as well as from all along the arctic shoreline, and so they often migrate along a broad front. Rarely do they head east and then down the Atlantic coast from Labrador. In my estimation, they arc Southeast from the tundra slopes as far west as Alaska. CT's east-west shoreline is a natural stopover point for many birds following this type of overland route. The fact that many shorebird stopover areas are concentrated at the mouths of rivers is no coincidence, as this is common throughout the world. River deltas and estuaries are natural stopover habitats with large concentrations of wetlands and marshes. And because the river floodplains themselves often have excellent gravel bars, mudflats, and adjacent wetlands, these systems make natural migratory routes. So I would estimate that many of CT's shorebirds are migrating overland and stopping along the shore. Rhode Island on the other hand may see more birds leaving the maritimes, stopping at Cape Cod and then heading for Eastern Long Island. Unlike hawks, shorebirds are not dependent on thermals, however, and so they would not "hug" the coastline for Greenwich, as Broad-wings do. Ross Carrier Graphics <carriergraphics@sbcglobal.net> wrote: A question about shorebirds: Here in CT, we tend to see many shorebirds migrating east or west respectively along the shore during the spring and fall migration. My question is; are most of these birds arriving at the different shorelines of CT by following shorelines to the north (fall) or south (spring) or might most or some of them be arriving at our shores (esp in the fall) from overland flights? CT having a west to east running shoreline might make a difference. We tend to see some numbers of these shorebirds regularly inland here in CT during the two migrations. Most inland sightings seem to be concentrated at or near our north to south running rivers such as the CT river. Might our rivers be important to some of these species migrations to follow south or north? Not much seems to be written about this of our State. Might someone shed some light on this question here on this site? Note of interest: Over the 30 years living in the town of Harwinton CT, a hilly, mountainous area in the northwest corner bordered on the west by the Naugatuck river, I have discovered many shorebird species seen in this town near water, on the ground or as fly overs. Some are: Black-b-Plover, 2 Golden Plover (flyover), Semi-Plover, Dowitcher sp, Red Knot (15 flyover), Both Yellowlegs, Sanderlings (flock of 50+ flyovers), Pectoral, 2 Buff breasted (at high school), 4Dunlin (at lake), Least, Semi Sandpipers. Also seen as flyovers: Common Tern, Laughing Gull, Bonaparte's Gull, Glossy ibis. Looking forward to any answers or sugestions. Paul Carrier _______________________________________________ This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. For subscription information visit http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org Ross Geredien Good Migrations Photography www.goodmigrationsphoto.com 1-610-850-5035 --------------------------------- Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search.
CP
COMINS, Patrick
Wed, Aug 22, 2007 4:12 PM

I think a big factor that makes the mouths of rivers important to shorebirds is habitat.  Some of the best shorebird habitat is located at the mouths of rivers where there is often a juxtaposition of tidal marsh, mudflat and barrier beach habitat (Sandy Point is one exception for a coastal spot not associated with a major river).  This offers them foraging opportunities at all tide levels and importantly high tide roosting locations.  Some think that high tide roosting locations are a limiting factor for shorebird stopover locations, which is why it is so important not to disturb roosting shorebirds.  They get enough natural disturbance from Peregrines and Merlins and don't need any additional pressures.

Patrick Comins, Meriden.

I think a big factor that makes the mouths of rivers important to shorebirds is habitat. Some of the best shorebird habitat is located at the mouths of rivers where there is often a juxtaposition of tidal marsh, mudflat and barrier beach habitat (Sandy Point is one exception for a coastal spot not associated with a major river). This offers them foraging opportunities at all tide levels and importantly high tide roosting locations. Some think that high tide roosting locations are a limiting factor for shorebird stopover locations, which is why it is so important not to disturb roosting shorebirds. They get enough natural disturbance from Peregrines and Merlins and don't need any additional pressures. Patrick Comins, Meriden.
CP
COMINS, Patrick
Wed, Aug 22, 2007 4:54 PM

FYI, there was a Green Violetear photographed in Maine last weekend.  It hasn't been seen again and isn't chaseable, but it does illustrate that it can pay to keep an eye on hummingbirds, not that you would have to look all that closely to pick this one out.

Not the photo from Maine, but a nice photo in case anyone wonders what they look like:
http://www.go2peru.com/imagenes2/ScreenSavers/green_violetear.jpg

Patrick Comins, Meriden

FYI, there was a Green Violetear photographed in Maine last weekend. It hasn't been seen again and isn't chaseable, but it does illustrate that it can pay to keep an eye on hummingbirds, not that you would have to look all that closely to pick this one out. Not the photo from Maine, but a nice photo in case anyone wonders what they look like: http://www.go2peru.com/imagenes2/ScreenSavers/green_violetear.jpg Patrick Comins, Meriden
RG
Ross Geredien/Good Migrations
Wed, Aug 22, 2007 4:59 PM

True that Sandy Point is not associated with any major river, although the entire harbor of New Haven is a formation that has a lot of similarities to a large estuary and river mouth.  The formation of the sand bars are undoubtededly the result of these similarities that produce similar tidal deposition as at the mouth of the CT River.  The only difference being that the volume of water flowing into New Haven Harbour is deceivingly small from the Mill and Quinnipiac Rivers.  I guess this is why early European settlers thought New Haven would be the largest city in New England, given its huge harbour, but were soon rudely awakened when they realized there was no extensive river system feeding into it!

But it is at the southern end of the Trap-Rock ridge system, so in that respect, it is primely situated geographically as a migratory stopover point.

Ross

"COMINS, Patrick" PCOMINS@audubon.org wrote:
I think a big factor that makes the mouths of rivers important to shorebirds is habitat. Some of the best shorebird habitat is located at the mouths of rivers where there is often a juxtaposition of tidal marsh, mudflat and barrier beach habitat (Sandy Point is one exception for a coastal spot not associated with a major river). This offers them foraging opportunities at all tide levels and importantly high tide roosting locations. Some think that high tide roosting locations are a limiting factor for shorebird stopover locations, which is why it is so important not to disturb roosting shorebirds. They get enough natural disturbance from Peregrines and Merlins and don't need any additional pressures.

Patrick Comins, Meriden.


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True that Sandy Point is not associated with any major river, although the entire harbor of New Haven is a formation that has a lot of similarities to a large estuary and river mouth. The formation of the sand bars are undoubtededly the result of these similarities that produce similar tidal deposition as at the mouth of the CT River. The only difference being that the volume of water flowing into New Haven Harbour is deceivingly small from the Mill and Quinnipiac Rivers. I guess this is why early European settlers thought New Haven would be the largest city in New England, given its huge harbour, but were soon rudely awakened when they realized there was no extensive river system feeding into it! But it is at the southern end of the Trap-Rock ridge system, so in that respect, it is primely situated geographically as a migratory stopover point. Ross "COMINS, Patrick" <PCOMINS@audubon.org> wrote: I think a big factor that makes the mouths of rivers important to shorebirds is habitat. Some of the best shorebird habitat is located at the mouths of rivers where there is often a juxtaposition of tidal marsh, mudflat and barrier beach habitat (Sandy Point is one exception for a coastal spot not associated with a major river). This offers them foraging opportunities at all tide levels and importantly high tide roosting locations. Some think that high tide roosting locations are a limiting factor for shorebird stopover locations, which is why it is so important not to disturb roosting shorebirds. They get enough natural disturbance from Peregrines and Merlins and don't need any additional pressures. Patrick Comins, Meriden. _______________________________________________ This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. For subscription information visit http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org Ross Geredien Good Migrations Photography www.goodmigrationsphoto.com 1-610-850-5035 --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.