To PUP members,

An introduction from:

John Harris - Boulder, CO
World Odd @ Sea (a Nordhavn 46) - currently in Spain

We started our boating experience as canoers, then sailors before moving to power boats. Our recent cruising experience has been 2 times around the Great Loop with a variety of side trips to the Bahamas, and the northeast to Maine, followed by an Atlantic crossing with the NAR-2004 group.

Our 2005 cruising plans include 3 months in the Mediterranean from Spain to Turkey and some of the points in between.

Our current boat (Nordhavn 46) is equipped with paravane stabilization, a single main engine (Lugger), a wing engine, and bow thruster. We are a bit conservative in our planning thus we carry a variety of spare parts, an 18' sea anchor with 600' rode, jack lines and harnesses, life raft, 2-EPRIB's, Inmarsat C distress transmitter and satellite communication, SSB radio, and weather FAX, and backups for many of our instruments and equipment with one set stored in a Faraday box.

Greeting to all, John Harris

RE: -  John, how about outlining to the list what you found to be the positives and negatives of crossing the Atlantic as part of an organized rally?

Positives - 1) Friends for crossing, visiting ports, later cruising;
2) Having part of the design team (with excellent cruising experience, and boat knowledge) just a minute away on the radio,
3) Superb planning for customs, fuel, docking, and tours,
4) For some people the security of more backup,
5) Knowledge learned from other cruisers in similar boats

Negative - 1) (small) Go at the group pace
2) Lengthy list of minimum requirements - most valuable, a couple not worth doing.

With those thoughts I will leave the rest to questions that others may be curious about rather than ramble on.

John Harris
World Odd @ Sea

RE - I'm not aware of all the requirements, but could you tell us which ones
you thought were not worth doing, and why?

The two requirements not worth doing in, my opinion, were the addition of a
towing eye and bridle which cost about $500 to install and rig. A better
solution, and one that was already aboard, is a towing bridle which utilizes
the two bow cleats and a 3/4" line bridle. (The bridle also serves as an
adjustable chain stop.) The installation of a MOB pole (about $120), that is
in addition to a MOB throwable, strobes, etc.  It is so cumbersome to deploy
that even a dedicated deck hand won't have it in the water before the boat
is turned around and on its way to the MOB.

There were dozens of requirements - probably the most valuable was an hour +
inspection by three very skilled people (free).

Regards, John

John,

There were several interesting requirements that I learned while watching the video in pre-production at TrawlerFest.

Could you share with us those that did not prove worthwhile and perhaps the ones that were. I thought the bridle eye was useful as a place for a chain snubber and I guess as an almost chafe free towing eye. But it sounds like there were some requirements that chafed.

Thank you,
Ron Rogers
Willard 40 AIRBORNE
Lying Annapolis

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From: John Harris
2) Lengthy list of minimum requirements - most valuable, a couple not worth doing.

With those thoughts I will leave the rest to questions that others may be curious about rather than ramble on.

Ron,

The operations manual is about 200 pages long. It contains many pages of requirements and much other information. One of the additional requirements that comes to mind is a certification of crew skills for all equipment in detail from checking the engine room to operating the radar.

If you desire to read the book I believe that I can find a near final electronic version that I can send to you.

Regards, John

John Harris wrote, "If you desire to read the book I believe that I can find a near final electronic version that I can send to you".

John, if you find it I would really appreciate a copy also.

Thanks for your time and trouble.

Cordially, Mike Sandiland
Bellingham, WA
mike@crownoffices.com
----- Original Message -----
From: John Harris
To: Passagemaking Under Power List
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [PUP] World Odd @ Sea across the Atlantic

Ron,

The operations manual is about 200 pages long. It contains many pages of requirements and much other information. One of the additional requirements that comes to mind is a certification of crew skills for all equipment in detail from checking the engine room to operating the radar.

If you desire to read the book I believe that I can find a near final electronic version that I can send to you.

Regards, John

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