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Re: GL: A royal screw up in COLREGS citation

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Ken Bloomfield
Mon, Jan 30, 2012 10:12 PM

John does make a good point that for anyone who is not familiar with
whistle signals (via real horn or radio) this discussion can be
bewildering, even though usually most posts are right.  However, there
is one comment that I do not agree with, and that is regarding the quote
below.  There is no such thing as "who's one" or  "who's two" since one
and two whistle passes are defined and never change.  There is no
situation where my whistle and your whistle differ, or where my one is
your two, etc.

If we are meeting, regardless of who initiates the whistle suggestion, a
one whistle pass is one whistle pass, and the same is true for
overtaking.  This is the whole idea of the whistle signal convention.

I have seen the situation on the Tenn Tom where one boat (not a tow) was
overtaking another cruiser and said "I'll do a starboard pass" and he
meant (and should have said) a one whistle pass.  The cruiser he was
passing though he meant that the overtaking vessel would keep him on his
starboard and immediately swung to starboard very nearly causing an
accident.  The air was blue, and no damage was incurred, but it was a
perfect example of why the whistle convention was made.

Ken Bloomfield

On 1/29/2012 11:15 PM, great-loop-request@lists.trawlering.com John &
Judy Gill jjgill@twojscom.com wrote:

The problem is that one can not be sure who's One or who's Two they refer to.

John does make a good point that for anyone who is not familiar with whistle signals (via real horn or radio) this discussion can be bewildering, even though usually most posts are right. However, there is one comment that I do not agree with, and that is regarding the quote below. There is no such thing as "who's one" or "who's two" since one and two whistle passes are defined and never change. There is no situation where my whistle and your whistle differ, or where my one is your two, etc. If we are meeting, regardless of who initiates the whistle suggestion, a one whistle pass is one whistle pass, and the same is true for overtaking. This is the whole idea of the whistle signal convention. I have seen the situation on the Tenn Tom where one boat (not a tow) was overtaking another cruiser and said "I'll do a starboard pass" and he meant (and should have said) a one whistle pass. The cruiser he was passing though he meant that the overtaking vessel would keep him on his starboard and immediately swung to starboard very nearly causing an accident. The air was blue, and no damage was incurred, but it was a perfect example of why the whistle convention was made. Ken Bloomfield On 1/29/2012 11:15 PM, great-loop-request@lists.trawlering.com John & Judy Gill <jjgill@twojscom.com> wrote: > The problem is that one can not be sure who's One or who's Two they refer to.
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Mary Anne Osborne
Mon, Jan 30, 2012 10:28 PM

Since I haven't seen anyone talking about it - there must not be many
loopers in the Kentucky Lake area right now (although we are having
unusually beautiful weather).  Last Thursday a specialty cargo vessel built
to carry NASA parts had a foggy late night encounter with the Eggners Ferry
Bridge across Kentucky lake near KenLake state park.  The bridge lost and an
entire span was separated from the mother bridge by the cargo vessel the
Delta Mariner.  IF you google the Delta Mariner you can read all about the
escapade.  Traffic along the river has been allowed to resume although there
is still much concern that the bridge is unstable.  Here is a link to one
site:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/27/eggner-ferry-bridge_n_1237222.html

He was way out of the channel when he hit the wrong span dead in the middle
cruising along around 8 knots.

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Since I haven't seen anyone talking about it - there must not be many loopers in the Kentucky Lake area right now (although we are having unusually beautiful weather). Last Thursday a specialty cargo vessel built to carry NASA parts had a foggy late night encounter with the Eggners Ferry Bridge across Kentucky lake near KenLake state park. The bridge lost and an entire span was separated from the mother bridge by the cargo vessel the Delta Mariner. IF you google the Delta Mariner you can read all about the escapade. Traffic along the river has been allowed to resume although there is still much concern that the bridge is unstable. Here is a link to one site: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/27/eggner-ferry-bridge_n_1237222.html He was way out of the channel when he hit the wrong span dead in the middle cruising along around 8 knots. The Osborne's Landlubbers in Western Kentucky http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com