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Blue Morph Snow Goose at Great Pond, Simsbury

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jaybrd49@aol.com
Sun, Oct 13, 2024 6:08 PM

Before people come running to see the reported blue morph snow goose at Simsbury's Great Pond be advised there is the strong likelihood that this bird is not a snow goose at all, but an aberrant-plumaged Canada Goose. The bird is equal in size to Canada Goose, has dark legs, and the neck is speckled, unlike any image of snow goose with which I am familiar.Jay KaplanCanton

Before people come running to see the reported blue morph snow goose at Simsbury's Great Pond be advised there is the strong likelihood that this bird is not a snow goose at all, but an aberrant-plumaged Canada Goose. The bird is equal in size to Canada Goose, has dark legs, and the neck is speckled, unlike any image of snow goose with which I am familiar.Jay KaplanCanton
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Adam Fasciolo
Sun, Oct 13, 2024 6:34 PM

The Blue Morph Snow Goose was vetted and posted per request by eBird reviewer. Pictures are on our eBird list for anyone to look at.  We’re happy to be corrected, but think the ID might be accurate.

Adam and Jo Fasciolo
Norwalk

On Oct 13, 2024, at 2:09 PM, jaybrd49--- via CTBirds ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org wrote:

Before people come running to see the reported blue morph snow goose at Simsbury's Great Pond be advised there is the strong likelihood that this bird is not a snow goose at all, but an aberrant-plumaged Canada Goose. The bird is equal in size to Canada Goose, has dark legs, and the neck is speckled, unlike any image of snow goose with which I am familiar.Jay KaplanCanton

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The Blue Morph Snow Goose was vetted and posted per request by eBird reviewer. Pictures are on our eBird list for anyone to look at. We’re happy to be corrected, but think the ID might be accurate. Adam and Jo Fasciolo Norwalk > On Oct 13, 2024, at 2:09 PM, jaybrd49--- via CTBirds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote: > > Before people come running to see the reported blue morph snow goose at Simsbury's Great Pond be advised there is the strong likelihood that this bird is not a snow goose at all, but an aberrant-plumaged Canada Goose. The bird is equal in size to Canada Goose, has dark legs, and the neck is speckled, unlike any image of snow goose with which I am familiar.Jay KaplanCanton > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send an email with just "join" or "leave" in the subject or body to: ctbirds-request@lists.ctbirding.org > > CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - Bringing birders together statewide. Please support COA: https://www.ctbirding.org/join-us/ > > CTBirds is for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. For list rules and subscription information visit: https://www.ctbirding.org/birds-birding/ct-birds-email-list/
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Jeffrey Fengler
Sun, Oct 13, 2024 7:28 PM

I’m in agreement with Jay. The picts I got of the bird show a narrow grin patch on an all black bill, the hint of a white cheek patch on the head, and plenty of brown feathering on the back mixed in with the dark grey/black plumage. I’m possibly thinking a hybrid Blue Goose/ Canada Goose for this one. I did not see the legs and feet on the bird though since it was swimming in the pond.
Jeff Fengler Vernon CT

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On Sunday, October 13, 2024, 2:35 PM, Adam Fasciolo via CTBirds ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org wrote:

The Blue Morph Snow Goose was vetted and posted per request by eBird reviewer. Pictures are on our eBird list for anyone to look at.  We’re happy to be corrected, but think the ID might be accurate.

Adam and Jo Fasciolo
Norwalk

On Oct 13, 2024, at 2:09 PM, jaybrd49--- via CTBirds ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org wrote:

Before people come running to see the reported blue morph snow goose at Simsbury's Great Pond be advised there is the strong likelihood that this bird is not a snow goose at all, but an aberrant-plumaged Canada Goose. The bird is equal in size to Canada Goose, has dark legs, and the neck is speckled, unlike any image of snow goose with which I am familiar.Jay KaplanCanton

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I’m in agreement with Jay. The picts I got of the bird show a narrow grin patch on an all black bill, the hint of a white cheek patch on the head, and plenty of brown feathering on the back mixed in with the dark grey/black plumage. I’m possibly thinking a hybrid Blue Goose/ Canada Goose for this one. I did not see the legs and feet on the bird though since it was swimming in the pond. Jeff Fengler Vernon CT Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, October 13, 2024, 2:35 PM, Adam Fasciolo via CTBirds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote: The Blue Morph Snow Goose was vetted and posted per request by eBird reviewer. Pictures are on our eBird list for anyone to look at.  We’re happy to be corrected, but think the ID might be accurate. Adam and Jo Fasciolo Norwalk > On Oct 13, 2024, at 2:09 PM, jaybrd49--- via CTBirds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote: > > Before people come running to see the reported blue morph snow goose at Simsbury's Great Pond be advised there is the strong likelihood that this bird is not a snow goose at all, but an aberrant-plumaged Canada Goose. The bird is equal in size to Canada Goose, has dark legs, and the neck is speckled, unlike any image of snow goose with which I am familiar.Jay KaplanCanton > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send an email with just "join" or "leave" in the subject or body to: ctbirds-request@lists.ctbirding.org > > CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - Bringing birders together statewide. Please support COA: https://www.ctbirding.org/join-us/ > > CTBirds is for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. For list rules and subscription information visit: https://www.ctbirding.org/birds-birding/ct-birds-email-list/ To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send an email with just "join" or "leave" in the subject or body to: ctbirds-request@lists.ctbirding.org CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - Bringing birders together statewide. Please support COA: https://www.ctbirding.org/join-us/ CTBirds is for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. For list rules and subscription information visit: https://www.ctbirding.org/birds-birding/ct-birds-email-list/
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Aidan Kiley
Sun, Oct 13, 2024 7:30 PM

I think there’s a chance it’s a Snow x Canada hybrid, if all the photos of
a dark goose from today I’ve seen represent the same individual, which is
unclear to me at this point.

Aidan Kiley
Fairfield

On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 2:34 PM Adam Fasciolo via CTBirds <
ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote:

The Blue Morph Snow Goose was vetted and posted per request by eBird
reviewer. Pictures are on our eBird list for anyone to look at.  We’re
happy to be corrected, but think the ID might be accurate.

Adam and Jo Fasciolo
Norwalk

On Oct 13, 2024, at 2:09 PM, jaybrd49--- via CTBirds <

Before people come running to see the reported blue morph snow goose at

Simsbury's Great Pond be advised there is the strong likelihood that this
bird is not a snow goose at all, but an aberrant-plumaged Canada Goose. The
bird is equal in size to Canada Goose, has dark legs, and the neck is
speckled, unlike any image of snow goose with which I am familiar.Jay
KaplanCanton

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I think there’s a chance it’s a Snow x Canada hybrid, if all the photos of a dark goose from today I’ve seen represent the same individual, which is unclear to me at this point. Aidan Kiley Fairfield On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 2:34 PM Adam Fasciolo via CTBirds < ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote: > The Blue Morph Snow Goose was vetted and posted per request by eBird > reviewer. Pictures are on our eBird list for anyone to look at. We’re > happy to be corrected, but think the ID might be accurate. > > Adam and Jo Fasciolo > Norwalk > > > > On Oct 13, 2024, at 2:09 PM, jaybrd49--- via CTBirds < > ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote: > > > > Before people come running to see the reported blue morph snow goose at > Simsbury's Great Pond be advised there is the strong likelihood that this > bird is not a snow goose at all, but an aberrant-plumaged Canada Goose. The > bird is equal in size to Canada Goose, has dark legs, and the neck is > speckled, unlike any image of snow goose with which I am familiar.Jay > KaplanCanton > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send an email with just "join" or > "leave" in the subject or body to: ctbirds-request@lists.ctbirding.org > > > > CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - Bringing > birders together statewide. Please support COA: > https://www.ctbirding.org/join-us/ > > > > CTBirds is for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. For > list rules and subscription information visit: > https://www.ctbirding.org/birds-birding/ct-birds-email-list/ > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send an email with just "join" or > "leave" in the subject or body to: ctbirds-request@lists.ctbirding.org > > CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - Bringing > birders together statewide. Please support COA: > https://www.ctbirding.org/join-us/ > > CTBirds is for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. For > list rules and subscription information visit: > https://www.ctbirding.org/birds-birding/ct-birds-email-list/
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jaybrd49@aol.com
Sun, Oct 13, 2024 8:23 PM

 My feeling is that the bird in question is, at best, a Canada/Snow Goose hybrid. The bill appears to lean toward snow goose as it is not as long and tapered as a Canada's would be. However, the size (it is as large as the Canada geese) the dark legs, and the overall plumage are not the features of a snow goose. Plus, the speckling pattern on the neck are unlike any snow/blue geese I have seen. I would be happy to be corrected, but I do not think it passes muster for snow goose. Not sure who the reviewer is that Adam refers to but would be happy to discuss in greater detail.Jay KaplanCanton
On Sunday, October 13, 2024 at 03:30:48 PM EDT, Aidan Kiley eezambo@gmail.com wrote:

I think there’s a chance it’s a Snow x Canada hybrid, if all the photos of a dark goose from today I’ve seen represent the same individual, which is unclear to me at this point. 
Aidan KileyFairfield
On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 2:34 PM Adam Fasciolo via CTBirds ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org wrote:

The Blue Morph Snow Goose was vetted and posted per request by eBird reviewer. Pictures are on our eBird list for anyone to look at.  We’re happy to be corrected, but think the ID might be accurate.

Adam and Jo Fasciolo
Norwalk

On Oct 13, 2024, at 2:09 PM, jaybrd49--- via CTBirds ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org wrote:

Before people come running to see the reported blue morph snow goose at Simsbury's Great Pond be advised there is the strong likelihood that this bird is not a snow goose at all, but an aberrant-plumaged Canada Goose. The bird is equal in size to Canada Goose, has dark legs, and the neck is speckled, unlike any image of snow goose with which I am familiar.Jay KaplanCanton

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 My feeling is that the bird in question is, at best, a Canada/Snow Goose hybrid. The bill appears to lean toward snow goose as it is not as long and tapered as a Canada's would be. However, the size (it is as large as the Canada geese) the dark legs, and the overall plumage are not the features of a snow goose. Plus, the speckling pattern on the neck are unlike any snow/blue geese I have seen. I would be happy to be corrected, but I do not think it passes muster for snow goose. Not sure who the reviewer is that Adam refers to but would be happy to discuss in greater detail.Jay KaplanCanton On Sunday, October 13, 2024 at 03:30:48 PM EDT, Aidan Kiley <eezambo@gmail.com> wrote: I think there’s a chance it’s a Snow x Canada hybrid, if all the photos of a dark goose from today I’ve seen represent the same individual, which is unclear to me at this point.  Aidan KileyFairfield On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 2:34 PM Adam Fasciolo via CTBirds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote: The Blue Morph Snow Goose was vetted and posted per request by eBird reviewer. Pictures are on our eBird list for anyone to look at.  We’re happy to be corrected, but think the ID might be accurate. Adam and Jo Fasciolo Norwalk > On Oct 13, 2024, at 2:09 PM, jaybrd49--- via CTBirds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote: > > Before people come running to see the reported blue morph snow goose at Simsbury's Great Pond be advised there is the strong likelihood that this bird is not a snow goose at all, but an aberrant-plumaged Canada Goose. The bird is equal in size to Canada Goose, has dark legs, and the neck is speckled, unlike any image of snow goose with which I am familiar.Jay KaplanCanton > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send an email with just "join" or "leave" in the subject or body to: ctbirds-request@lists.ctbirding.org > > CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - Bringing birders together statewide. Please support COA: https://www.ctbirding.org/join-us/ > > CTBirds is for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. For list rules and subscription information visit: https://www.ctbirding.org/birds-birding/ct-birds-email-list/ To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send an email with just "join" or "leave" in the subject or body to: ctbirds-request@lists.ctbirding.org CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - Bringing birders together statewide. Please support COA: https://www.ctbirding.org/join-us/ CTBirds is for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. For list rules and subscription information visit: https://www.ctbirding.org/birds-birding/ct-birds-email-list/
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Gregory Hanisek
Sun, Oct 13, 2024 8:33 PM

I agree with Jay and Jeff Fengler that this is not a blue morph Snow Goose.
It could be an aberrant plumaged bird displaying leucism or as I think is
often the case with geese showing odd amounts of white plumage, an
admixture of domestic white goose. I think it would be hard to pinpoint two
species as first generation hybrid parents.

Greg Hanisek
Waterbury

On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 2:08 PM jaybrd49--- via CTBirds <
ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote:

Before people come running to see the reported blue morph snow goose at
Simsbury's Great Pond be advised there is the strong likelihood that this
bird is not a snow goose at all, but an aberrant-plumaged Canada Goose. The
bird is equal in size to Canada Goose, has dark legs, and the neck is
speckled, unlike any image of snow goose with which I am familiar.Jay
KaplanCanton

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I agree with Jay and Jeff Fengler that this is not a blue morph Snow Goose. It could be an aberrant plumaged bird displaying leucism or as I think is often the case with geese showing odd amounts of white plumage, an admixture of domestic white goose. I think it would be hard to pinpoint two species as first generation hybrid parents. Greg Hanisek Waterbury On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 2:08 PM jaybrd49--- via CTBirds < ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote: > Before people come running to see the reported blue morph snow goose at > Simsbury's Great Pond be advised there is the strong likelihood that this > bird is not a snow goose at all, but an aberrant-plumaged Canada Goose. The > bird is equal in size to Canada Goose, has dark legs, and the neck is > speckled, unlike any image of snow goose with which I am familiar.Jay > KaplanCanton > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send an email with just "join" or > "leave" in the subject or body to: ctbirds-request@lists.ctbirding.org > > CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - Bringing > birders together statewide. Please support COA: > https://www.ctbirding.org/join-us/ > > CTBirds is for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. For > list rules and subscription information visit: > https://www.ctbirding.org/birds-birding/ct-birds-email-list/ >
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Aidan Kiley
Sun, Oct 13, 2024 8:42 PM

It’s an interesting bird. If all photos are of the same bird, I agree not
pure Snow Goose.

Jo’s initial pix from a distance seemed like a Snow at a quick glance in
the field while working on hundred of sparrows (!), but Jeff’s much closer
photos seem to show otherwise.

Need to take a look at all of the photos together and see what we can do,
if anything. I wasn’t there so can’t say anything first-hand.

Aidan Kiley
Fairfield

On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 4:23 PM jaybrd49@aol.com jaybrd49@aol.com wrote:

My feeling is that the bird in question is, at best, a Canada/Snow Goose
hybrid. The bill appears to lean toward snow goose as it is not as long and
tapered as a Canada's would be. However, the size (it is as large as the
Canada geese) the dark legs, and the overall plumage are not the features
of a snow goose. Plus, the speckling pattern on the neck are unlike any
snow/blue geese I have seen. I would be happy to be corrected, but I do not
think it passes muster for snow goose. Not sure who the reviewer is that
Adam refers to but would be happy to discuss in greater detail.
Jay Kaplan
Canton

On Sunday, October 13, 2024 at 03:30:48 PM EDT, Aidan Kiley <
eezambo@gmail.com> wrote:

I think there’s a chance it’s a Snow x Canada hybrid, if all the photos of
a dark goose from today I’ve seen represent the same individual, which is
unclear to me at this point.

Aidan Kiley
Fairfield

On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 2:34 PM Adam Fasciolo via CTBirds <
ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote:

The Blue Morph Snow Goose was vetted and posted per request by eBird
reviewer. Pictures are on our eBird list for anyone to look at.  We’re
happy to be corrected, but think the ID might be accurate.

Adam and Jo Fasciolo
Norwalk

On Oct 13, 2024, at 2:09 PM, jaybrd49--- via CTBirds <

Before people come running to see the reported blue morph snow goose at

Simsbury's Great Pond be advised there is the strong likelihood that this
bird is not a snow goose at all, but an aberrant-plumaged Canada Goose. The
bird is equal in size to Canada Goose, has dark legs, and the neck is
speckled, unlike any image of snow goose with which I am familiar.Jay
KaplanCanton

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It’s an interesting bird. If all photos are of the same bird, I agree not pure Snow Goose. Jo’s initial pix from a distance seemed like a Snow at a quick glance in the field while working on hundred of sparrows (!), but Jeff’s much closer photos seem to show otherwise. Need to take a look at all of the photos together and see what we can do, if anything. I wasn’t there so can’t say anything first-hand. Aidan Kiley Fairfield On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 4:23 PM jaybrd49@aol.com <jaybrd49@aol.com> wrote: > My feeling is that the bird in question is, at best, a Canada/Snow Goose > hybrid. The bill appears to lean toward snow goose as it is not as long and > tapered as a Canada's would be. However, the size (it is as large as the > Canada geese) the dark legs, and the overall plumage are not the features > of a snow goose. Plus, the speckling pattern on the neck are unlike any > snow/blue geese I have seen. I would be happy to be corrected, but I do not > think it passes muster for snow goose. Not sure who the reviewer is that > Adam refers to but would be happy to discuss in greater detail. > Jay Kaplan > Canton > > On Sunday, October 13, 2024 at 03:30:48 PM EDT, Aidan Kiley < > eezambo@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I think there’s a chance it’s a Snow x Canada hybrid, if all the photos of > a dark goose from today I’ve seen represent the same individual, which is > unclear to me at this point. > > Aidan Kiley > Fairfield > > On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 2:34 PM Adam Fasciolo via CTBirds < > ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote: > > The Blue Morph Snow Goose was vetted and posted per request by eBird > reviewer. Pictures are on our eBird list for anyone to look at. We’re > happy to be corrected, but think the ID might be accurate. > > Adam and Jo Fasciolo > Norwalk > > > > On Oct 13, 2024, at 2:09 PM, jaybrd49--- via CTBirds < > ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote: > > > > Before people come running to see the reported blue morph snow goose at > Simsbury's Great Pond be advised there is the strong likelihood that this > bird is not a snow goose at all, but an aberrant-plumaged Canada Goose. The > bird is equal in size to Canada Goose, has dark legs, and the neck is > speckled, unlike any image of snow goose with which I am familiar.Jay > KaplanCanton > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send an email with just "join" or > "leave" in the subject or body to: ctbirds-request@lists.ctbirding.org > > > > CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - Bringing > birders together statewide. Please support COA: > https://www.ctbirding.org/join-us/ > > > > CTBirds is for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. For > list rules and subscription information visit: > https://www.ctbirding.org/birds-birding/ct-birds-email-list/ > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send an email with just "join" or > "leave" in the subject or body to: ctbirds-request@lists.ctbirding.org > > CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - Bringing > birders together statewide. Please support COA: > https://www.ctbirding.org/join-us/ > > CTBirds is for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. For > list rules and subscription information visit: > https://www.ctbirding.org/birds-birding/ct-birds-email-list/ > >