Bob is correct. WiFi with VPN is secure IF the VPN is engaged before initial access of your other logon applications. Some applications are "chatty" and can jump ahead of the VPN access queue. As an example, Dropbox is notorious for this. Bill, in our research and reviews the best Mac alternative is Cloak: www.getcloak.com As a preference, the latest version will block access until a secure connection is made to the VPN server. Their plan is a bit unique in that it is useable on all of your Apple devices (desktop computer, laptop, iPhone, iPad), versus a device by device fee, although cellular has it's own access-encryption and the VPN is a bit redundant. You choose a connect-time and bandwidth tier and pay a monthly fee. Hope this helps, Mark Doyle www.OnTheWaterChartGuides.com [clip] Message: 14 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 21:12:43 -0400 From: Bob McLeran <Bob@MVSanderling.net> To: T-GL <great-loop@lists.trawlering.com> Subject: Re: GL: Wi-fi Internet on a Boat Message-ID: <5178830B.2040009@MVSanderling.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Sorry, Fred, but WiFi _IS_ secure if you use a VPN and encryption. Otherwise, it's not. On 4/24/2013 7:52 PM, fred@tug44.org wrote: > > The bottom line: Wifi is NEVER secure, not ever. [clip] -----------------------------