New member introduction
All hands--
Join me in welcoming David Eldridge to the List.
I own a lagoon power 43 for the last 5 years. I keep the boat on long island
sound ny. I have been in boating for 20 years all power boats. Silverton.
Carver. I moved to cats for the fuel efficiency and stability. Currently I
only use the boat on weekends and vacations. We plan to retire in a few years.
And do the great loop
David, don't be afraid to post questions or mesdsages to the group. One
question at a time with a descriptive subject line will net the best results.
--Georgs
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Power Catamaran World
http://www.powercatworld.com
Welcome Dave from California
Dave, you have one of the Catamarans my wife and I are looking at.
Given your 5 years experience, what general guide lines would you give to
someone wanting to buy a Cat for Cruising and extended live aboard.
Hopefully we are about 18 months away from making the plunge, so are now
looking in earnest to identify our target boat.
Thanks in advance
Jim Meader
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Georgs Kolesnikovs
Sent: Thu 4/1/2010 3:43 AM
To: Power Catamaran List
Subject: [PCW] New member introduction
All hands--
Join me in welcoming David Eldridge to the List.
I own a lagoon power 43 for the last 5 years. I keep the boat on long
island
sound ny. I have been in boating for 20 years all power boats. Silverton.
Carver. I moved to cats for the fuel efficiency and stability. Currently I
only use the boat on weekends and vacations. We plan to retire in a few
years.
And do the great loop
David, don't be afraid to post questions or mesdsages to the group. One
question at a time with a descriptive subject line will net the best results.
--Georgs
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Power Catamaran World
http://www.powercatworld.com
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
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Well Jim, that's an easy question. I moved from a 40ft aft cabin
silverton to the lagoon power 43 because of better fuel milage. Compared
to my old boat i went from 2 gallons a mile at 16 knots to about 1 gallon
a mile at 16 knots. I doubled my usable space for living and storage
while gaining a much more stable ride.
The only downside to a cat is the beam. At 21' 1" it is hard to find a
slip. For us we like to anchor out so the slip issue is personally not
a big issue. Boats are comprises.
Specifically on the lagoon, I would focus on either the 300 or 315 hp
engines. I feel the other two smaller engine options make the boat under
powered. The standard delta 44 lb anchor that comes with the boat is too
small. I upgraded to a 88 lb rocnar which is probable a little over kill
but I like to sleep at night with out worries. The generator on my boat
was installed in the forward center hatch. Some other boats have the gen
installed in the mechanical room just off the master state room. I do
not like this approach. The french have a different idea about how much
electricity you might use. I upgraded the electric panel and installed a
new 50amp 250V connection and added more electric outlets. I wish there
was more counter top space in the galley. The other thing to consider is
your dinghy. i did not like the option of putting the dink on the roof of
the master cabin, it really ruins the view. After a lot of looking around
I found a nice set of davits that allow me to carry my 11 ft, 25hp,
boston whaler type dink off the swim platform, with out getting in the
way. The engines are real tough to work on because of the limited amount
of space around them. My yanmar 315 run great. I also have 2500 watt
inverter/charger which I could not live with out. I have 3 4D house
batteries and will probable add a 4th battery when we move aboard.
Hope that helps
Dave Eldridge
From:
"Jim Meader" jim@rmtmail.com
To:
"Power Catamaran List" power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Date:
04/02/2010 02:10 PM
Subject:
Re: [PCW] New member introduction
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Welcome Dave from California
Dave, you have one of the Catamarans my wife and I are looking at.
Given your 5 years experience, what general guide lines would you give to
someone wanting to buy a Cat for Cruising and extended live aboard.
Hopefully we are about 18 months away from making the plunge, so are now
looking in earnest to identify our target boat.
Thanks in advance
Jim Meader
-----Original Message-----
From: power-catamaran-bounces+jim=rmtmail.com@lists.samurai.com on behalf
of
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Sent: Thu 4/1/2010 3:43 AM
To: Power Catamaran List
Subject: [PCW] New member introduction
All hands--
Join me in welcoming David Eldridge to the List.
I own a lagoon power 43 for the last 5 years. I keep the boat on long
island
sound ny. I have been in boating for 20 years all power boats. Silverton.
Carver. I moved to cats for the fuel efficiency and stability. Currently I
only use the boat on weekends and vacations. We plan to retire in a few
years.
And do the great loop
David, don't be afraid to post questions or mesdsages to the group. One
question at a time with a descriptive subject line will net the best
results.
--Georgs
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Power Catamaran World
http://www.powercatworld.com
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
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With more beam comes more space, a comprise I can live with on an everyday
basis.
You like the better fuel burn rate, yet recommend the bigger engines could you
expand on that. I tend to agree with you but have no real experience. I think
a lot of comments on the internet are based on fuel savings primarily, but the
ability to get into a safe port in a storm and keeping the wife happy is
another comprise I can live with.
Added Weight is always a factor with cat's what is your experience with ride
and I would assume there would be a fuel economy hit.
Thanks
Jim Meader
Broker/Owner RE/MAX Today
DRE# 00493029
Jim@rmtmail.com
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david.eldridge@bnymellon.com
Sent: Fri 4/2/2010 12:05 PM
To: Power Catamaran List
Subject: Re: [PCW] New member introduction
Well Jim, that's an easy question. I moved from a 40ft aft cabin
silverton to the lagoon power 43 because of better fuel milage. Compared
to my old boat i went from 2 gallons a mile at 16 knots to about 1 gallon
a mile at 16 knots. I doubled my usable space for living and storage
while gaining a much more stable ride.
The only downside to a cat is the beam. At 21' 1" it is hard to find a
slip. For us we like to anchor out so the slip issue is personally not
a big issue. Boats are comprises.
Specifically on the lagoon, I would focus on either the 300 or 315 hp
engines. I feel the other two smaller engine options make the boat under
powered. The standard delta 44 lb anchor that comes with the boat is too
small. I upgraded to a 88 lb rocnar which is probable a little over kill
but I like to sleep at night with out worries. The generator on my boat
was installed in the forward center hatch. Some other boats have the gen
installed in the mechanical room just off the master state room. I do
not like this approach. The french have a different idea about how much
electricity you might use. I upgraded the electric panel and installed a
new 50amp 250V connection and added more electric outlets. I wish there
was more counter top space in the galley. The other thing to consider is
your dinghy. i did not like the option of putting the dink on the roof of
the master cabin, it really ruins the view. After a lot of looking around
I found a nice set of davits that allow me to carry my 11 ft, 25hp,
boston whaler type dink off the swim platform, with out getting in the
way. The engines are real tough to work on because of the limited amount
of space around them. My yanmar 315 run great. I also have 2500 watt
inverter/charger which I could not live with out. I have 3 4D house
batteries and will probable add a 4th battery when we move aboard.
Hope that helps
Dave Eldridge
From:
"Jim Meader" jim@rmtmail.com
To:
"Power Catamaran List" power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Date:
04/02/2010 02:10 PM
Subject:
Re: [PCW] New member introduction
Sent by:
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Welcome Dave from California
Dave, you have one of the Catamarans my wife and I are looking at.
Given your 5 years experience, what general guide lines would you give to
someone wanting to buy a Cat for Cruising and extended live aboard.
Hopefully we are about 18 months away from making the plunge, so are now
looking in earnest to identify our target boat.
Thanks in advance
Jim Meader
-----Original Message-----
From: power-catamaran-bounces+jim=rmtmail.com@lists.samurai.com on behalf
of
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Sent: Thu 4/1/2010 3:43 AM
To: Power Catamaran List
Subject: [PCW] New member introduction
All hands--
Join me in welcoming David Eldridge to the List.
I own a lagoon power 43 for the last 5 years. I keep the boat on long
island
sound ny. I have been in boating for 20 years all power boats. Silverton.
Carver. I moved to cats for the fuel efficiency and stability. Currently I
only use the boat on weekends and vacations. We plan to retire in a few
years.
And do the great loop
David, don't be afraid to post questions or mesdsages to the group. One
question at a time with a descriptive subject line will net the best
results.
--Georgs
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Power Catamaran World
http://www.powercatworld.com
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
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I do not have flow meters on my cat so my data is based upon
experience verses actual measurements. In 4 - 5 ft seas off block island
I tend to adjust my speed so I travel just a little faster then the
waves. If I push it to much, when I come down the front of a wave I
will take water and spray on to the foredeck, due to the need for more
bouncy in the bow. I always thought the perfect cat would have a little
bulbous bow that would have little to no effect on the fuel burn but
give me a little drier ride. In any case I do not tend to go in 4 -5ft, I
prefer to wait.
I have added quite a bit of weight to the bow, I have 88lb anchor, and
100 ft of chain, plus the gen set northern lights 9kw also located about
8 ft from the box. That is balanced by a 650 - 700 lb dink hanging off
davits on the swim platform. I find balance is more important then actual
weight. When the water tanks 183 gals and fuel tanks 400 gals are full,
I see my stern down about 1 full inch compared to empty tanks. With full
tanks I can feel she takes a little longer about 10 - 15 seconds more to
get on plane.
The bridge deck on the lagoon is quite high and wide compared to other
cats like a PDQ. That cuts down on the "slamming" and "sneezing" at
higher speed
The engine size is a personal preference, if you are going from an aft
cabin to a cat as I did, I did not have to give up any speed. I do not
have the patience to go at trawler speeds when crossing a large body of
water. I do enjoy going slow when there is something to look at in a
canal.
Dave Eldridge
From:
"Jim Meader" jim@rmtmail.com
To:
"Power Catamaran List" power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Date:
04/02/2010 06:37 PM
Subject:
Re: [PCW] New member introduction
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With more beam comes more space, a comprise I can live with on an everyday
basis.
You like the better fuel burn rate, yet recommend the bigger engines could
you
expand on that. I tend to agree with you but have no real experience. I
think
a lot of comments on the internet are based on fuel savings primarily, but
the
ability to get into a safe port in a storm and keeping the wife happy is
another comprise I can live with.
Added Weight is always a factor with cat's what is your experience with
ride
and I would assume there would be a fuel economy hit.
Thanks
Jim Meader
Broker/Owner RE/MAX Today
DRE# 00493029
Jim@rmtmail.com
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From: power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com on behalf of
david.eldridge@bnymellon.com
Sent: Fri 4/2/2010 12:05 PM
To: Power Catamaran List
Subject: Re: [PCW] New member introduction
Well Jim, that's an easy question. I moved from a 40ft aft cabin
silverton to the lagoon power 43 because of better fuel milage. Compared
to my old boat i went from 2 gallons a mile at 16 knots to about 1 gallon
a mile at 16 knots. I doubled my usable space for living and storage
while gaining a much more stable ride.
The only downside to a cat is the beam. At 21' 1" it is hard to find a
slip. For us we like to anchor out so the slip issue is personally not
a big issue. Boats are comprises.
Specifically on the lagoon, I would focus on either the 300 or 315 hp
engines. I feel the other two smaller engine options make the boat under
powered. The standard delta 44 lb anchor that comes with the boat is too
small. I upgraded to a 88 lb rocnar which is probable a little over kill
but I like to sleep at night with out worries. The generator on my boat
was installed in the forward center hatch. Some other boats have the gen
installed in the mechanical room just off the master state room. I do
not like this approach. The french have a different idea about how much
electricity you might use. I upgraded the electric panel and installed a
new 50amp 250V connection and added more electric outlets. I wish there
was more counter top space in the galley. The other thing to consider is
your dinghy. i did not like the option of putting the dink on the roof of
the master cabin, it really ruins the view. After a lot of looking around
I found a nice set of davits that allow me to carry my 11 ft, 25hp,
boston whaler type dink off the swim platform, with out getting in the
way. The engines are real tough to work on because of the limited amount
of space around them. My yanmar 315 run great. I also have 2500 watt
inverter/charger which I could not live with out. I have 3 4D house
batteries and will probable add a 4th battery when we move aboard.
Hope that helps
Dave Eldridge
From:
"Jim Meader" jim@rmtmail.com
To:
"Power Catamaran List" power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Date:
04/02/2010 02:10 PM
Subject:
Re: [PCW] New member introduction
Sent by:
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Welcome Dave from California
Dave, you have one of the Catamarans my wife and I are looking at.
Given your 5 years experience, what general guide lines would you give to
someone wanting to buy a Cat for Cruising and extended live aboard.
Hopefully we are about 18 months away from making the plunge, so are now
looking in earnest to identify our target boat.
Thanks in advance
Jim Meader
-----Original Message-----
From: power-catamaran-bounces+jim=rmtmail.com@lists.samurai.com on behalf
of
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Sent: Thu 4/1/2010 3:43 AM
To: Power Catamaran List
Subject: [PCW] New member introduction
All hands--
Join me in welcoming David Eldridge to the List.
I own a lagoon power 43 for the last 5 years. I keep the boat on long
island
sound ny. I have been in boating for 20 years all power boats. Silverton.
Carver. I moved to cats for the fuel efficiency and stability. Currently I
only use the boat on weekends and vacations. We plan to retire in a few
years.
And do the great loop
David, don't be afraid to post questions or mesdsages to the group. One
question at a time with a descriptive subject line will net the best
results.
--Georgs
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Power Catamaran World
http://www.powercatworld.com
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
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