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Tom Kinsella

Fri, Oct 13, 2006 2:14 PM

We recently ordered a Direct TV service for our 25 foot Bayliner 2560
boat. We have not even departed for our trip yet and have found locating
the satellite signal when we move the dish to be extremely challenging.
My questions to those who have the system is: How do you have the dish
set up on your boat?Is it a permanent pole mount or can we do something
smaller and portable?Are you able to receive service in a calm anchorage
or just when placing on the marina dock?Are there any tricks to locating
the satellites easier?Any other advice is appreciated, we are beginning
to think it just won't work for the boat.Thanks, Tom

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We recently ordered a Direct TV service for our 25 foot Bayliner 2560 boat. We have not even departed for our trip yet and have found locating the satellite signal when we move the dish to be extremely challenging. My questions to those who have the system is: How do you have the dish set up on your boat?Is it a permanent pole mount or can we do something smaller and portable?Are you able to receive service in a calm anchorage or just when placing on the marina dock?Are there any tricks to locating the satellites easier?Any other advice is appreciated, we are beginning to think it just won't work for the boat.Thanks, Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Add fun gadgets and colorful themes to express yourself on Windows Live Spaces

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fred

Fri, Oct 13, 2006 2:53 PM

Tom,

I have DirecTV on my boat and love it. I have the dish sitting on a tripod
on the "back porch" of the boat. It's loosely bolted together so I can
adjust it easily, and I have a rope draped on the arm to steady it after
it's adjusted and also to prevent it from blowing over in a storm.
The tripod is not bolted to the deck.

The tripod was provided by the dish installer, it comes with a 10 foot
section of electrical conduit which was cut down to a short stump. When I
originally ordered the set, they put it together in my back yard at home on
that tripod, and I cut the pipe and moved it to the boat later on.

Occasionally I stick a pencil under one leg to adjust the up-down angle,
but that's usually not necessary.

It generally takes me a minute or so to get it set up.

Note in the "setup" section of the receiver there is a indicator showing
percentage of signal received. If you have that visible when you turn the
dish, you'll have it done in 30 seconds flat.

While swinging at anchor there is no chance of using it, though I plan to
experiment using 2 small anchors at the back of the boat in addition to the
main anchor out front.

Fred W.
Tug 44
http://www.tug44.org/

At 02:14 PM 10/13/06 +0000, you wrote:

We recently ordered a Direct TV service for our 25 foot Bayliner 2560
boat. We have not even departed for our trip yet and have found locating
the satellite signal when we move the dish to be extremely challenging.
My questions to those who have the system is: How do you have the dish
set up on your boat?Is it a permanent pole mount or can we do something
smaller and portable?Are you able to receive service in a calm anchorage
or just when placing on the marina dock?Are there any tricks to locating
the satellites easier?Any other advice is appreciated, we are beginning
to think it just won't work for the boat.Thanks, Tom

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Tom, I have DirecTV on my boat and love it. I have the dish sitting on a tripod on the "back porch" of the boat. It's loosely bolted together so I can adjust it easily, and I have a rope draped on the arm to steady it after it's adjusted and also to prevent it from blowing over in a storm. The tripod is not bolted to the deck. The tripod was provided by the dish installer, it comes with a 10 foot section of electrical conduit which was cut down to a short stump. When I originally ordered the set, they put it together in my back yard at home on that tripod, and I cut the pipe and moved it to the boat later on. Occasionally I stick a pencil under one leg to adjust the up-down angle, but that's usually not necessary. It generally takes me a minute or so to get it set up. Note in the "setup" section of the receiver there is a indicator showing percentage of signal received. If you have that visible when you turn the dish, you'll have it done in 30 seconds flat. While swinging at anchor there is no chance of using it, though I plan to experiment using 2 small anchors at the back of the boat in addition to the main anchor out front. Fred W. Tug 44 http://www.tug44.org/ At 02:14 PM 10/13/06 +0000, you wrote: >We recently ordered a Direct TV service for our 25 foot Bayliner 2560 >boat. We have not even departed for our trip yet and have found locating >the satellite signal when we move the dish to be extremely challenging. >My questions to those who have the system is: How do you have the dish >set up on your boat?Is it a permanent pole mount or can we do something >smaller and portable?Are you able to receive service in a calm anchorage >or just when placing on the marina dock?Are there any tricks to locating >the satellites easier?Any other advice is appreciated, we are beginning >to think it just won't work for the boat.Thanks, Tom > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Add fun gadgets and colorful themes to express yourself on Windows Live >Spaces >_______________________________________________ >http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop > >To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, >unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/great-loop

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John & Judy Gill

Fri, Oct 13, 2006 4:00 PM

Tom and list,

We have had Direct TV on our 36 ft Carver Mariner for 6 years now and
it works great. However we also have a KVH TracVision G-4 "follow-
me" satellite TV antenna installed. Our friends who tried to use a
household TV antenna could never make it work because they could not
aim the antenna properly. You need to invest in a portable satellite
TV antenna (some come package in a brief case type carrying case)
that has the compass and angle adjustments in order to find the
satellite signal.

Also remember that you can only receive local network channels in
your primary boating area and will loose them in 75 100 miles or so
(have to declare a new "home location" to get network channels after
that

Our dockside neighbor uses an antenna like the one mentioned above
and it only takes him about 5 to 10 minutes to set up on weekends
when he is on his boat (he sets his up on the flybridge seat to get a
clear view of the Southern sky).

Check out Boaters World at: <http://www.boatersworld.com/product/
316031574.htm>

You will love the Direct TV system and have the ability to check out
the National weather channel each night before cruising the next day.

John Gill
Two J's V
AGLCA Loopers

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On Oct 13, 2006, at 10:14 AM, Tom Kinsella wrote:

We recently ordered a Direct TV service for our 25 foot Bayliner 2560
boat. We have not even departed for our trip yet and have found
locating
the satellite signal when we move the dish to be extremely
challenging.
My questions to those who have the system is: How do you have the dish
set up on your boat?Is it a permanent pole mount or can we do
something
smaller and portable?Are you able to receive service in a calm
anchorage
or just when placing on the marina dock?Are there any tricks to
locating
the satellites easier?Any other advice is appreciated, we are
beginning
to think it just won't work for the boat.Thanks, Tom

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Tom and list, We have had Direct TV on our 36 ft Carver Mariner for 6 years now and it works great. However we also have a KVH TracVision G-4 "follow- me" satellite TV antenna installed. Our friends who tried to use a household TV antenna could never make it work because they could not aim the antenna properly. You need to invest in a portable satellite TV antenna (some come package in a brief case type carrying case) that has the compass and angle adjustments in order to find the satellite signal. Also remember that you can only receive local network channels in your primary boating area and will loose them in 75 100 miles or so (have to declare a new "home location" to get network channels after that Our dockside neighbor uses an antenna like the one mentioned above and it only takes him about 5 to 10 minutes to set up on weekends when he is on his boat (he sets his up on the flybridge seat to get a clear view of the Southern sky). Check out Boaters World at: <http://www.boatersworld.com/product/ 316031574.htm> You will love the Direct TV system and have the ability to check out the National weather channel each night before cruising the next day. John Gill Two J's V AGLCA Loopers =============================== On Oct 13, 2006, at 10:14 AM, Tom Kinsella wrote: > We recently ordered a Direct TV service for our 25 foot Bayliner 2560 > boat. We have not even departed for our trip yet and have found > locating > the satellite signal when we move the dish to be extremely > challenging. > My questions to those who have the system is: How do you have the dish > set up on your boat?Is it a permanent pole mount or can we do > something > smaller and portable?Are you able to receive service in a calm > anchorage > or just when placing on the marina dock?Are there any tricks to > locating > the satellites easier?Any other advice is appreciated, we are > beginning > to think it just won't work for the boat.Thanks, Tom > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > Add fun gadgets and colorful themes to express yourself on Windows > Live > Spaces > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/ > great-loop

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Phil Bolin

Fri, Oct 13, 2006 4:23 PM

Re: We recently ordered a Direct TV service for our 25 foot Bayliner 2560
boat. ... Any other advice is appreciated, we are beginning
to think it just won't work for the boat.Thanks, Tom

I have Direct TV and use a $900 follow me system (much cheaper than full
auto track), described at http://www.follow-me-tv.com/. It works great;
auto track in azimuth and is adjusted manually for elevation that only has
to be done after movement 2 to 300 miles north or south. It works great at
anchor unless there are very very heavy swells/chop. Concerning the local
stations the Gills talked about, you can pick a service location( I use
Beaufort SC) that does not have local feds and Direct TV will give you the
national feeds for CBS, NBC, and ABC, that are available anywhere you're at
in US. You miss the local news but get the national channels.

Phil and Carey
MV Apolonia
43' Vista
http://home.earthlink.net/~pwbolin/

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Re: We recently ordered a Direct TV service for our 25 foot Bayliner 2560 boat. ... Any other advice is appreciated, we are beginning to think it just won't work for the boat.Thanks, Tom I have Direct TV and use a $900 follow me system (much cheaper than full auto track), described at http://www.follow-me-tv.com/. It works great; auto track in azimuth and is adjusted manually for elevation that only has to be done after movement 2 to 300 miles north or south. It works great at anchor unless there are very very heavy swells/chop. Concerning the local stations the Gills talked about, you can pick a service location( I use Beaufort SC) that does not have local feds and Direct TV will give you the national feeds for CBS, NBC, and ABC, that are available anywhere you're at in US. You miss the local news but get the national channels. Phil and Carey MV Apolonia 43' Vista http://home.earthlink.net/~pwbolin/ -----Original Message----- From: great-loop-bounces+phil_bolin=teambci.com@lists.samurai.com [mailto:great-loop-bounces+phil_bolin=teambci.com@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Tom Kinsella Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:15 AM To: great-loop@lists.samurai.com Subject: GL: Direct TV

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Joe

Fri, Oct 13, 2006 9:39 PM

Tom,

Ditto the comment on FollowMeTv.
One other gadget available thru an RV accessory dealer is a meter that connects in line with the cable at the dish that shows signal strength and emits a beep as you adjust the dish.

Joe Chernow
MV Lady Sandra
Carver 440
In winter stogage in. MD awaiting resuming the GL next Spring.
Sent via Cingular Xpress Mail with Blackberry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Tom Kinsella" tfkinsella@hotmail.com
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:14:54
To:great-loop@lists.samurai.com
Subject: GL: Direct TV

We recently ordered a Direct TV service for our 25 foot Bayliner 2560
boat. We have not even departed for our trip yet and have found locating
the satellite signal when we move the dish to be extremely challenging.
My questions to those who have the system is: How do you have the dish
set up on your boat?Is it a permanent pole mount or can we do something
smaller and portable?Are you able to receive service in a calm anchorage
or just when placing on the marina dock?Are there any tricks to locating
the satellites easier?Any other advice is appreciated, we are beginning
to think it just won't work for the boat.Thanks, Tom

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Tom, Ditto the comment on FollowMeTv. One other gadget available thru an RV accessory dealer is a meter that connects in line with the cable at the dish that shows signal strength and emits a beep as you adjust the dish. Joe Chernow MV Lady Sandra Carver 440 In winter stogage in. MD awaiting resuming the GL next Spring. Sent via Cingular Xpress Mail with Blackberry -----Original Message----- From: "Tom Kinsella" <tfkinsella@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:14:54 To:great-loop@lists.samurai.com Subject: GL: Direct TV We recently ordered a Direct TV service for our 25 foot Bayliner 2560 boat. We have not even departed for our trip yet and have found locating the satellite signal when we move the dish to be extremely challenging. My questions to those who have the system is: How do you have the dish set up on your boat?Is it a permanent pole mount or can we do something smaller and portable?Are you able to receive service in a calm anchorage or just when placing on the marina dock?Are there any tricks to locating the satellites easier?Any other advice is appreciated, we are beginning to think it just won't work for the boat.Thanks, Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Add fun gadgets and colorful themes to express yourself on Windows Live Spaces _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/great-loop

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Ralph Yost (home)

Sat, Oct 14, 2006 12:15 AM

How much money do you all have tied up in your television system, all
totaling including the subscription, tracking system etc.?
I am wondering if its worth it.

thanks
R.

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Subject: Re: GL: Direct TV

Tom,

Ditto the comment on FollowMeTv.
One other gadget available thru an RV accessory dealer is a meter that
connects in line with the cable at the dish that shows signal strength and
emits a beep as you adjust the dish.

Joe Chernow
MV Lady Sandra
Carver 440
In winter stogage in. MD awaiting resuming the GL next Spring.
Sent via Cingular Xpress Mail with Blackberry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Tom Kinsella" tfkinsella@hotmail.com
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:14:54
To:great-loop@lists.samurai.com
Subject: GL: Direct TV

We recently ordered a Direct TV service for our 25 foot Bayliner 2560
boat. We have not even departed for our trip yet and have found locating
the satellite signal when we move the dish to be extremely challenging.
My questions to those who have the system is: How do you have the dish
set up on your boat?Is it a permanent pole mount or can we do something
smaller and portable?Are you able to receive service in a calm anchorage
or just when placing on the marina dock?Are there any tricks to locating
the satellites easier?Any other advice is appreciated, we are beginning
to think it just won't work for the boat.Thanks, Tom

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How much money do you all have tied up in your television system, all totaling including the subscription, tracking system etc.? I am wondering if its worth it. thanks R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe" <jmccpa@ix.netcom.com> To: "Tom Kinsella" <tfkinsella@hotmail.com>; <great-loop-bounces+jmccpa=ix.netcom.com@lists.samurai.com>; <great-loop@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 5:39 PM Subject: Re: GL: Direct TV > Tom, > > Ditto the comment on FollowMeTv. > One other gadget available thru an RV accessory dealer is a meter that > connects in line with the cable at the dish that shows signal strength and > emits a beep as you adjust the dish. > > Joe Chernow > MV Lady Sandra > Carver 440 > In winter stogage in. MD awaiting resuming the GL next Spring. > Sent via Cingular Xpress Mail with Blackberry > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Tom Kinsella" <tfkinsella@hotmail.com> > Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:14:54 > To:great-loop@lists.samurai.com > Subject: GL: Direct TV > > We recently ordered a Direct TV service for our 25 foot Bayliner 2560 > boat. We have not even departed for our trip yet and have found locating > the satellite signal when we move the dish to be extremely challenging. > My questions to those who have the system is: How do you have the dish > set up on your boat?Is it a permanent pole mount or can we do something > smaller and portable?Are you able to receive service in a calm anchorage > or just when placing on the marina dock?Are there any tricks to locating > the satellites easier?Any other advice is appreciated, we are beginning > to think it just won't work for the boat.Thanks, Tom > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Add fun gadgets and colorful themes to express yourself on Windows Live > Spaces > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/great-loop > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/great-loop > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.3/473 - Release Date: 10/12/2006

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Capt. Charles Richter

Sun, Oct 15, 2006 2:30 AM

I use Dish Network with a portable dish on the dock and a sat signal
strength meter. The meter is available online and allows you to point
the dish quickly and easily costs about $50.

Captain Charles Richter

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Kinsella [mailto:tfkinsella@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:15 AM
To: great-loop@lists.samurai.com
Subject: GL: Direct TV

We recently ordered a Direct TV service for our 25 foot Bayliner 2560
boat. We have not even departed for our trip yet and have found locating
the satellite signal when we move the dish to be extremely challenging.
My questions to those who have the system is: How do you have the dish
set up on your boat?Is it a permanent pole mount or can we do something
smaller and portable?Are you able to receive service in a calm anchorage
or just when placing on the marina dock?Are there any tricks to locating
the satellites easier?Any other advice is appreciated, we are beginning
to think it just won't work for the boat.Thanks, Tom

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I use Dish Network with a portable dish on the dock and a sat signal strength meter. The meter is available online and allows you to point the dish quickly and easily costs about $50. Captain Charles Richter -----Original Message----- From: Tom Kinsella [mailto:tfkinsella@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:15 AM To: great-loop@lists.samurai.com Subject: GL: Direct TV We recently ordered a Direct TV service for our 25 foot Bayliner 2560 boat. We have not even departed for our trip yet and have found locating the satellite signal when we move the dish to be extremely challenging. My questions to those who have the system is: How do you have the dish set up on your boat?Is it a permanent pole mount or can we do something smaller and portable?Are you able to receive service in a calm anchorage or just when placing on the marina dock?Are there any tricks to locating the satellites easier?Any other advice is appreciated, we are beginning to think it just won't work for the boat.Thanks, Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Add fun gadgets and colorful themes to express yourself on Windows Live Spaces

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fred

Sun, Oct 15, 2006 2:37 PM

Ralph,

The TV is a real nice 20" LCD I got from refurbdepot.com for 300 bucks, the
directv receiver comes free from Directv along with my monthly
subscription, so my only expense is 45 bucks a month for the service. And
in the winter time when the boat is closed up, I can suspend the service.

Don't leave home without it!

Fred W.
Tug 44
http://www.tug44.org/

At 08:15 PM 10/13/06 -0400, you wrote:

How much money do you all have tied up in your television system, all
totaling including the subscription, tracking system etc.?
I am wondering if its worth it.

thanks
R.

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Subject: Re: GL: Direct TV

Tom,

Ditto the comment on FollowMeTv.
One other gadget available thru an RV accessory dealer is a meter that

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Ralph, The TV is a real nice 20" LCD I got from refurbdepot.com for 300 bucks, the directv receiver comes free from Directv along with my monthly subscription, so my only expense is 45 bucks a month for the service. And in the winter time when the boat is closed up, I can suspend the service. Don't leave home without it! Fred W. Tug 44 http://www.tug44.org/ At 08:15 PM 10/13/06 -0400, you wrote: >How much money do you all have tied up in your television system, all >totaling including the subscription, tracking system etc.? >I am wondering if its worth it. > >thanks >R. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Joe" <jmccpa@ix.netcom.com> >To: "Tom Kinsella" <tfkinsella@hotmail.com>; ><great-loop-bounces+jmccpa=ix.netcom.com@lists.samurai.com>; ><great-loop@lists.samurai.com> >Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 5:39 PM >Subject: Re: GL: Direct TV > > >> Tom, >> >> Ditto the comment on FollowMeTv. >> One other gadget available thru an RV accessory dealer is a meter that > > >WARNING: The remainder of this message has not been transferred. >The estimated size of this message is 6476 bytes. >Click on the server retrieve icon above and check mail again to get the whole thing. If the server retrieve icon is not showing, then this message is no longer on the server.

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