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Re: T&T: Kelletomania

AH
A H FOSTER
Sat, Feb 23, 2013 8:27 PM

You all can talk this to death but I can think of any number of things I'd rather take up weight and space on my boat then a kellet. In this day and age of spade anchors and power windlasses just get the proper road set up, an "over sized" anchor of the proper design, a good snubber/ chain hook and sleep tight. A kellet just adds an unnecessary complication. And unless it's of a very cumbersome weight doesn't any good in a real blow any way as studies have shown. In a real blow the rode goes bar tight and proper shock abortion becomes of utmost importance. And that does not come from using a kellet. 

About all they are good for is keeping rodes from tangling the rare case you use two anchors. And you don't need a very heavy one to do that. Or to perhaps minimize swinging radius. Which is even questionable. And again not often needed.

Bill 

You all can talk this to death but I can think of any number of things I'd rather take up weight and space on my boat then a kellet. In this day and age of spade anchors and power windlasses just get the proper road set up, an "over sized" anchor of the proper design, a good snubber/ chain hook and sleep tight. A kellet just adds an unnecessary complication. And unless it's of a very cumbersome weight doesn't any good in a real blow any way as studies have shown. In a real blow the rode goes bar tight and proper shock abortion becomes of utmost importance. And that does not come from using a kellet.  About all they are good for is keeping rodes from tangling the rare case you use two anchors. And you don't need a very heavy one to do that. Or to perhaps minimize swinging radius. Which is even questionable. And again not often needed. Bill 
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Tamaroak
Sun, Feb 24, 2013 10:47 AM

Kellets, multiple snubbers, Bahamian anchor, stern anchors and tandem
anchors are all extra stuff to deploy and later untangle, really complicate
the whole process and delay us unnecessarily. We use one big anchor and 55'
of chain, which is always deployed, along with whatever additional 5/8"
nylon to give us sufficient scope and sleep. We just secure it to the
Sampson post and don't need a snubber. Every time I've deployed two anchors
it has been a hassle.

Capt Jeff on Adirondack

On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 3:27 PM, A H FOSTER capt.bill11@verizon.net wrote:

You all can talk this to death but I can think of any number of things I'd
rather take up weight and space on my boat then a kellet. In this day and
age of spade anchors and power windlasses just get the proper road set up,
an "over sized" anchor of the proper design, a good snubber/ chain hook and
sleep tight. A kellet just adds an unnecessary complication. And unless
it's of a very cumbersome weight doesn't any good in a real blow any way as
studies have shown. In a real blow the rode goes bar tight and proper shock
abortion becomes of utmost importance. And that does not come from using a
kellet.

About all they are good for is keeping rodes from tangling the rare case
you use two anchors. And you don't need a very heavy one to do that. Or to
perhaps minimize swinging radius. Which is even questionable. And again not
often needed.

Bill


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Kellets, multiple snubbers, Bahamian anchor, stern anchors and tandem anchors are all extra stuff to deploy and later untangle, really complicate the whole process and delay us unnecessarily. We use one big anchor and 55' of chain, which is always deployed, along with whatever additional 5/8" nylon to give us sufficient scope and sleep. We just secure it to the Sampson post and don't need a snubber. Every time I've deployed two anchors it has been a hassle. Capt Jeff on Adirondack On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 3:27 PM, A H FOSTER <capt.bill11@verizon.net> wrote: > > You all can talk this to death but I can think of any number of things I'd > rather take up weight and space on my boat then a kellet. In this day and > age of spade anchors and power windlasses just get the proper road set up, > an "over sized" anchor of the proper design, a good snubber/ chain hook and > sleep tight. A kellet just adds an unnecessary complication. And unless > it's of a very cumbersome weight doesn't any good in a real blow any way as > studies have shown. In a real blow the rode goes bar tight and proper shock > abortion becomes of utmost importance. And that does not come from using a > kellet. > > > About all they are good for is keeping rodes from tangling the rare case > you use two anchors. And you don't need a very heavy one to do that. Or to > perhaps minimize swinging radius. Which is even questionable. And again not > often needed. > > Bill > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change > email address, etc) go to: > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited. > -- Messinginboats.com is a way for folks to join us virtually as we cruise through the Bahamas and back up the coast to Lake Champlain on "Adirondack."
RC
R C Smith Jr
Sun, Feb 24, 2013 2:34 PM

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 5:47 AM, Tamaroak tamaroak@gmail.com wrote:

...We use one big anchor and 55' of chain, which is always deployed, along
with whatever additional 5/8"
nylon to give us sufficient scope and sleep. We just secure it to the
Sampson post and don't need a snubber.

Jeff,

Your nylon rode is your snubber.  You only need a snubber for an all-chain
rode.

I'm jealous...enjoy the Bahamas!

Thanks,
Bob


Robert Calhoun Smith, Jr.*
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M/V MARY KATHRYN
Hatteras 58 LRC
Annapolis, Maryland

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 5:47 AM, Tamaroak <tamaroak@gmail.com> wrote: > ...We use one big anchor and 55' of chain, which is always deployed, along > with whatever additional 5/8" > nylon to give us sufficient scope and sleep. We just secure it to the > Sampson post and don't need a snubber. Jeff, Your nylon rode is your snubber. You only need a snubber for an all-chain rode. I'm jealous...enjoy the Bahamas! Thanks, Bob __________________________ Robert Calhoun Smith, Jr.* * *M/V MARY KATHRYN* Hatteras 58 LRC Annapolis, Maryland