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Relay from Jim Harding: New Canadian Fees

BM
Bob McLeran
Tue, Feb 26, 2013 12:03 AM

The proposed rate increases for the Canadian canals and parks don't
affect this year (2013). They would not go into effect until 2014.

It's still the best deal around for some great locations. When we spent
almost two months on the Canadian canals in 2011 we were on lock walls
about 60% of the time (the rest anchored out or twice in marinas) and
used their electric at $10/night (that was the rate in 2011) when we
were staying for more than a couple of nights - perhaps 25% of the
nights on walls.

No matter how you do it, your costs will vary depending on your cruising
habits. If you spend every night in a marina (or using electric at a
lock in Canada), your costs will be much more than if you let your
batteries take some of the load!

<><><><><><><><><><><><>Mozilla Thunderbird<><><><><><><><><><>
Bob McLeran and Judy Young              Manatee Cove Marina
MV Sanderling                            Patrick Air Force Base
DeFever 41 Trawler                      Satellite Beach, Florida
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Web: http://cruising.mvsanderling.net/

On 2/25/2013 6:47 PM, Ralph Yost wrote:

This year (potential) -
Electric $14/night, x 18 nights (more power locations available)
My 25 nights might end up costing 1435+252 = $1687

The proposed rate increases for the Canadian canals and parks don't affect this year (2013). They would not go into effect until 2014. It's still the best deal around for some great locations. When we spent almost two months on the Canadian canals in 2011 we were on lock walls about 60% of the time (the rest anchored out or twice in marinas) and used their electric at $10/night (that was the rate in 2011) when we were staying for more than a couple of nights - perhaps 25% of the nights on walls. No matter how you do it, your costs will vary depending on your cruising habits. If you spend every night in a marina (or using electric at a lock in Canada), your costs will be much more than if you let your batteries take some of the load! <><><><><><><><><><><><>Mozilla Thunderbird<><><><><><><><><><> Bob McLeran and Judy Young Manatee Cove Marina MV Sanderling Patrick Air Force Base DeFever 41 Trawler Satellite Beach, Florida Blog: http://mvsanderling.net/Blog Web: http://cruising.mvsanderling.net/ On 2/25/2013 6:47 PM, Ralph Yost wrote: > This year (potential) - > Electric $14/night, x 18 nights (more power locations available) > My 25 nights might end up costing 1435+252 = $1687
TS
Ted Stehle
Tue, Feb 26, 2013 12:24 AM

Bob,

The lockage fee increases are scheduled for 2014, the mooring fees sometime
in 2013...providing of course that they reach some sort of agreement on what
they will be.

Ted

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob McLeran" Bob@MVSanderling.net
To: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: GL: Relay from Jim Harding: New Canadian Fees

The proposed rate increases for the Canadian canals and parks don't affect
this year (2013). They would not go into effect until 2014.

It's still the best deal around for some great locations. When we spent
almost two months on the Canadian canals in 2011 we were on lock walls
about 60% of the time (the rest anchored out or twice in marinas) and used
their electric at $10/night (that was the rate in 2011) when we were
staying for more than a couple of nights - perhaps 25% of the nights on
walls.

No matter how you do it, your costs will vary depending on your cruising
habits. If you spend every night in a marina (or using electric at a lock
in Canada), your costs will be much more than if you let your batteries
take some of the load!

<><><><><><><><><><><><>Mozilla Thunderbird<><><><><><><><><><>
Bob McLeran and Judy Young              Manatee Cove Marina
MV Sanderling                            Patrick Air Force Base
DeFever 41 Trawler                      Satellite Beach, Florida
Blog: http://mvsanderling.net/Blog
Web: http://cruising.mvsanderling.net/

On 2/25/2013 6:47 PM, Ralph Yost wrote:

This year (potential) -
Electric $14/night, x 18 nights (more power locations available)
My 25 nights might end up costing 1435+252 = $1687

Bob, The lockage fee increases are scheduled for 2014, the mooring fees sometime in 2013...providing of course that they reach some sort of agreement on what they will be. Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob McLeran" <Bob@MVSanderling.net> To: <great-loop@lists.trawlering.com> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 7:03 PM Subject: Re: GL: Relay from Jim Harding: New Canadian Fees > The proposed rate increases for the Canadian canals and parks don't affect > this year (2013). They would not go into effect until 2014. > > It's still the best deal around for some great locations. When we spent > almost two months on the Canadian canals in 2011 we were on lock walls > about 60% of the time (the rest anchored out or twice in marinas) and used > their electric at $10/night (that was the rate in 2011) when we were > staying for more than a couple of nights - perhaps 25% of the nights on > walls. > > No matter how you do it, your costs will vary depending on your cruising > habits. If you spend every night in a marina (or using electric at a lock > in Canada), your costs will be much more than if you let your batteries > take some of the load! > > <><><><><><><><><><><><>Mozilla Thunderbird<><><><><><><><><><> > Bob McLeran and Judy Young Manatee Cove Marina > MV Sanderling Patrick Air Force Base > DeFever 41 Trawler Satellite Beach, Florida > Blog: http://mvsanderling.net/Blog > Web: http://cruising.mvsanderling.net/ > > On 2/25/2013 6:47 PM, Ralph Yost wrote: >> This year (potential) - >> Electric $14/night, x 18 nights (more power locations available) >> My 25 nights might end up costing 1435+252 = $1687 > > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com
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Dan & Peggy
Tue, Feb 26, 2013 12:50 AM

Bravo!

-----Original Message-----
From: Ralph Yost
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:43 PM
To: 'Loop'
Subject: Re: GL: Relay from Jim Harding: New Canadian Fees

Or alternately, instead of responding to the Canadian bureaucrats, simply
don’t go to Canada. Vote with your pocket book. Spend your money in the USA
where we still have a struggling economy on the brink of recession. Plenty
of great cruising ground in the USA.
R.

-----Original Message-----
From: Great-Loop [mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf
Of Bill

Don’t know if any of you have been following the revision of the Canadian
Canal lock and mooring fees.
But they are about to approve a huge increase. Mooring $20/ft and lockage
$15/ft.  That puts the one season fees for great loop boat in the approx
range of $2000..
If you are bothered by this.. I would urge that you send cards and letters
to Canada’s Park Service and members of parliament.
Best
Jim


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Bravo! -----Original Message----- From: Ralph Yost Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:43 PM To: 'Loop' Subject: Re: GL: Relay from Jim Harding: New Canadian Fees Or alternately, instead of responding to the Canadian bureaucrats, simply don’t go to Canada. Vote with your pocket book. Spend your money in the USA where we still have a struggling economy on the brink of recession. Plenty of great cruising ground in the USA. R. -----Original Message----- From: Great-Loop [mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf Of Bill Don’t know if any of you have been following the revision of the Canadian Canal lock and mooring fees. But they are about to approve a huge increase. Mooring $20/ft and lockage $15/ft. That puts the one season fees for great loop boat in the approx range of $2000.. If you are bothered by this.. I would urge that you send cards and letters to Canada’s Park Service and members of parliament. Best Jim _______________________________________________ http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com
BV
B. Victhom
Tue, Feb 26, 2013 3:16 AM

Please provide some input : where to go in US, which has the charm, quality
of life and century old villages of the Rideau and Trent-Severn system ?

Certainly not the Mississippi. Tennessee River ?  Hudson ?

Or alternately, instead of responding to the Canadian bureaucrats, simply
don¹t go to Canada. Vote with your pocket book. Spend your money in the USA
where we still have a struggling economy on the brink of recession. Plenty of
great cruising ground in the USA.

R.

Please provide some input : where to go in US, which has the charm, quality of life and century old villages of the Rideau and Trent-Severn system ? Certainly not the Mississippi. Tennessee River ? Hudson ? > Or alternately, instead of responding to the Canadian bureaucrats, simply > don¹t go to Canada. Vote with your pocket book. Spend your money in the USA > where we still have a struggling economy on the brink of recession. Plenty of > great cruising ground in the USA. R.
JP
Joseph Pica
Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:32 AM

Snip:"...Please provide some input : where to go in US, which has the charm,
quality of life and century old villages of the Rideau and Trent-Severn
system ? Certainly not the Mississippi. Tennessee River ?  Hudson ?..."

I sorry but you've touched a nerve. I've cruised all those to include the
Western Rivers.
The Western Erie Canal is most like the Canadian Canals as both are parks.
The Western Erie is the historic portion of the Erie and has a town every
10-12 miles corresponding to the service limits of the mules. These offer
great charm and history.  Also, they offer "pumps out" for free, most have
free power included with canal seasonal pass ($75 in 2011) as well as
Washrooms with "showers" and even some with free a laundry.  In addition to
the towns on the Canal are those Cities in the Finger Lakes accessed from
the Canal e.g. Syracuse, Ithaca and Watkins Glen.  Of course Rochester is 40
mins. off the canal down the Genesee River and there is Buffalo at the
canal's end.
I really wouldn't say which are better as both have merits as a cruising
venue...that said neither trumps the other.  I've done both so can offer an
opinion from personal experience.
As to the Western Rivers, there is the Ohio River, It has great towns
steeped in history as well as Cities mosty with free docks!  We found the
Ohio River to count up with our very best cruising experience. We even
cruised to the end of the Monogahela just past Farimont West Virginia which
is the highest point in North America a boat can travel to from sea, 867'.
The Hudson is also a river with an incredible great history.  Please explore
all these before making jugement. You will be very pleased you did.

Joe

M/V "Carolyn Ann" GH N-37
MTOA# 3813
AGLCA# 5485 (Platinum Looper)
http://carolynann-n37.blogspot.com/
Joseph.pica@gmail.com

Snip:"...Please provide some input : where to go in US, which has the charm, quality of life and century old villages of the Rideau and Trent-Severn system ? Certainly not the Mississippi. Tennessee River ? Hudson ?..." I sorry but you've touched a nerve. I've cruised all those to include the Western Rivers. The Western Erie Canal is most like the Canadian Canals as both are parks. The Western Erie is the historic portion of the Erie and has a town every 10-12 miles corresponding to the service limits of the mules. These offer great charm and history. Also, they offer "pumps out" for free, most have free power included with canal seasonal pass ($75 in 2011) as well as Washrooms with "showers" and even some with free a laundry. In addition to the towns on the Canal are those Cities in the Finger Lakes accessed from the Canal e.g. Syracuse, Ithaca and Watkins Glen. Of course Rochester is 40 mins. off the canal down the Genesee River and there is Buffalo at the canal's end. I really wouldn't say which are better as both have merits as a cruising venue...that said neither trumps the other. I've done both so can offer an opinion from personal experience. As to the Western Rivers, there is the Ohio River, It has great towns steeped in history as well as Cities mosty with free docks! We found the Ohio River to count up with our very best cruising experience. We even cruised to the end of the Monogahela just past Farimont West Virginia which is the highest point in North America a boat can travel to from sea, 867'. The Hudson is also a river with an incredible great history. Please explore all these before making jugement. You will be very pleased you did. Joe M/V "Carolyn Ann" GH N-37 MTOA# 3813 AGLCA# 5485 (Platinum Looper) http://carolynann-n37.blogspot.com/ Joseph.pica@gmail.com
RY
Ralph Yost
Tue, Feb 26, 2013 11:33 AM

Suggest you contact Larry Zeitlin about the Hudson and be sure to read his
FREE book about cruising the Hudson, and all of its rich history.
R.

-----Original Message-----
From: Great-Loop [mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf
Of B. Victhom
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 10:16 PM
To: TWL Great Loop
Subject: Re: GL: Relay from Jim Harding: New Canadian Fees

Please provide some input : where to go in US, which has the charm, quality
of life and century old villages of the Rideau and Trent-Severn system ?

Certainly not the Mississippi. Tennessee River ?  Hudson ?

Suggest you contact Larry Zeitlin about the Hudson and be sure to read his FREE book about cruising the Hudson, and all of its rich history. R. -----Original Message----- From: Great-Loop [mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf Of B. Victhom Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 10:16 PM To: TWL Great Loop Subject: Re: GL: Relay from Jim Harding: New Canadian Fees Please provide some input : where to go in US, which has the charm, quality of life and century old villages of the Rideau and Trent-Severn system ? Certainly not the Mississippi. Tennessee River ? Hudson ?
BV
B. Victhom
Tue, Feb 26, 2013 1:55 PM

I apologize if I touched anybody's nerve by asking a question about nicest
rivers and canals to go in US. It was not my intention and my question was
real. Obviously, I didn't have the right words.

I'm very much interested in rivers and canals we don't often hear about. So
please continue to feed the list with good ideas and suggestions.

Bryan

I sorry but you've touched a nerve. I've cruised all those to include the
Western Rivers.

I apologize if I touched anybody's nerve by asking a question about nicest rivers and canals to go in US. It was not my intention and my question was real. Obviously, I didn't have the right words. I'm very much interested in rivers and canals we don't often hear about. So please continue to feed the list with good ideas and suggestions. Bryan > > I sorry but you've touched a nerve. I've cruised all those to include the > Western Rivers.
J&
John & Judy Gill
Tue, Feb 26, 2013 3:09 PM

Jim and list,

With out a doubt, the Rideau Waterway, the Trent-Severn Waterway, the North Channel, the 30,000 Islands of the Georgian Bay, are among the most beautiful cruising waters in the United States.

In that part of North America, I would suggest a week or so on the U.S. side of the 1000 islands, next the Erie Canal has a lot to offer.

Then you would have to cruise South to the beautiful Chesapeake Bay and explore all the many rivers which empty into the Bay.

John

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On Feb 25, 2013, at 10:16 PM, B. Victhom wrote:

Please provide some input : where to go in US, which has the charm, quality
of life and century old villages of the Rideau and Trent-Severn system ?

Certainly not the Mississippi. Tennessee River ?  Hudson ?

Or alternately, instead of responding to the Canadian bureaucrats, simply
don’t go to Canada. Vote with your pocket book. Spend your money in the USA
where we still have a struggling economy on the brink of recession. Plenty of
great cruising ground in the USA.

R.


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Jim and list, With out a doubt, the Rideau Waterway, the Trent-Severn Waterway, the North Channel, the 30,000 Islands of the Georgian Bay, are among the most beautiful cruising waters in the United States. In that part of North America, I would suggest a week or so on the U.S. side of the 1000 islands, next the Erie Canal has a lot to offer. Then you would have to cruise South to the beautiful Chesapeake Bay and explore all the many rivers which empty into the Bay. John ================================================== On Feb 25, 2013, at 10:16 PM, B. Victhom wrote: > Please provide some input : where to go in US, which has the charm, quality > of life and century old villages of the Rideau and Trent-Severn system ? > > Certainly not the Mississippi. Tennessee River ? Hudson ? > > >> Or alternately, instead of responding to the Canadian bureaucrats, simply >> don’t go to Canada. Vote with your pocket book. Spend your money in the USA >> where we still have a struggling economy on the brink of recession. Plenty of >> great cruising ground in the USA. > R. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com
W
wareever
Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:06 PM

Not trying to be picky...BUT....the last time I looked, the Rideau Waterway,
the Trent-Severn Waterway, the North Channel, the 30,000 Islands of the
Georgian Bay, are among the most beautiful cruising waters in CANADA.

Steve Ware

M/V Lady Galadriel
Argosy 42 RPH Trawler

Kingston, ON    Canada

----- Original Message -----
From: "John & Judy Gill" jjgill@twojscom.com
To: "B. Victhom" bvcom@mac.com
Cc: "TWL Great Loop" great-loop@lists.trawlering.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: GL: Relay from Jim Harding: New Canadian Fees

Jim and list,

With out a doubt, the Rideau Waterway, the Trent-Severn Waterway, the North
Channel, the 30,000 Islands of the Georgian Bay, are among the most
beautiful cruising waters in the United States.

In that part of North America, I would suggest a week or so on the U.S. side
of the 1000 islands, next the Erie Canal has a lot to offer.

Then you would have to cruise South to the beautiful Chesapeake Bay and
explore all the many rivers which empty into the Bay.

John

---=================

On Feb 25, 2013, at 10:16 PM, B. Victhom wrote:

Please provide some input : where to go in US, which has the charm,
quality
of life and century old villages of the Rideau and Trent-Severn system ?

Certainly not the Mississippi. Tennessee River ?  Hudson ?

Or alternately, instead of responding to the Canadian bureaucrats, simply
don’t go to Canada. Vote with your pocket book. Spend your money in the
USA
where we still have a struggling economy on the brink of recession.
Plenty of
great cruising ground in the USA.

R.


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Not trying to be picky...BUT....the last time I looked, the Rideau Waterway, the Trent-Severn Waterway, the North Channel, the 30,000 Islands of the Georgian Bay, are among the most beautiful cruising waters in CANADA. Steve Ware M/V Lady Galadriel Argosy 42 RPH Trawler Kingston, ON Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "John & Judy Gill" <jjgill@twojscom.com> To: "B. Victhom" <bvcom@mac.com> Cc: "TWL Great Loop" <great-loop@lists.trawlering.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:09 AM Subject: Re: GL: Relay from Jim Harding: New Canadian Fees Jim and list, With out a doubt, the Rideau Waterway, the Trent-Severn Waterway, the North Channel, the 30,000 Islands of the Georgian Bay, are among the most beautiful cruising waters in the United States. In that part of North America, I would suggest a week or so on the U.S. side of the 1000 islands, next the Erie Canal has a lot to offer. Then you would have to cruise South to the beautiful Chesapeake Bay and explore all the many rivers which empty into the Bay. John ================================================== On Feb 25, 2013, at 10:16 PM, B. Victhom wrote: > Please provide some input : where to go in US, which has the charm, > quality > of life and century old villages of the Rideau and Trent-Severn system ? > > Certainly not the Mississippi. Tennessee River ? Hudson ? > > >> Or alternately, instead of responding to the Canadian bureaucrats, simply >> don’t go to Canada. Vote with your pocket book. Spend your money in the >> USA >> where we still have a struggling economy on the brink of recession. >> Plenty of >> great cruising ground in the USA. > R. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com _______________________________________________ http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com
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John & Judy Gill
Tue, Feb 26, 2013 7:55 PM

Steve and list,

Woops.  I did mean that the Rideau, Trent-Severn, Georgian Bay and North Channel were in Canada and not in the States -- I meant to say that they were in North America (Canada is in the North American continent.

Sorry for the confusion.

John

================================
On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:06 AM, wareever wrote:

Not trying to be picky...BUT....the last time I looked, the Rideau Waterway, the Trent-Severn Waterway, the North Channel, the 30,000 Islands of the Georgian Bay, are among the most beautiful cruising waters in CANADA.

Steve Ware

M/V Lady Galadriel
Argosy 42 RPH Trawler

Kingston, ON    Canada

----- Original Message ----- From: "John & Judy Gill" jjgill@twojscom.com
To: "B. Victhom" bvcom@mac.com
Cc: "TWL Great Loop" great-loop@lists.trawlering.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: GL: Relay from Jim Harding: New Canadian Fees

Jim and list,

With out a doubt, the Rideau Waterway, the Trent-Severn Waterway, the North Channel, the 30,000 Islands of the Georgian Bay, are among the most beautiful cruising waters in the United States.

In that part of North America, I would suggest a week or so on the U.S. side of the 1000 islands, next the Erie Canal has a lot to offer.

Then you would have to cruise South to the beautiful Chesapeake Bay and explore all the many rivers which empty into the Bay.

John

---=================

On Feb 25, 2013, at 10:16 PM, B. Victhom wrote:

Please provide some input : where to go in US, which has the charm, quality
of life and century old villages of the Rideau and Trent-Severn system ?

Certainly not the Mississippi. Tennessee River ?  Hudson ?

Or alternately, instead of responding to the Canadian bureaucrats, simply
don’t go to Canada. Vote with your pocket book. Spend your money in the USA
where we still have a struggling economy on the brink of recession. Plenty of
great cruising ground in the USA.

R.


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Steve and list, Woops. I did mean that the Rideau, Trent-Severn, Georgian Bay and North Channel were in Canada and not in the States -- I meant to say that they were in North America (Canada is in the North American continent. Sorry for the confusion. John ================================ On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:06 AM, wareever wrote: > Not trying to be picky...BUT....the last time I looked, the Rideau Waterway, the Trent-Severn Waterway, the North Channel, the 30,000 Islands of the Georgian Bay, are among the most beautiful cruising waters in CANADA. > > Steve Ware > > M/V Lady Galadriel > Argosy 42 RPH Trawler > > Kingston, ON Canada > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John & Judy Gill" <jjgill@twojscom.com> > To: "B. Victhom" <bvcom@mac.com> > Cc: "TWL Great Loop" <great-loop@lists.trawlering.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:09 AM > Subject: Re: GL: Relay from Jim Harding: New Canadian Fees > > > Jim and list, > > With out a doubt, the Rideau Waterway, the Trent-Severn Waterway, the North Channel, the 30,000 Islands of the Georgian Bay, are among the most beautiful cruising waters in the United States. > > In that part of North America, I would suggest a week or so on the U.S. side of the 1000 islands, next the Erie Canal has a lot to offer. > > Then you would have to cruise South to the beautiful Chesapeake Bay and explore all the many rivers which empty into the Bay. > > John > > ================================================== > > > On Feb 25, 2013, at 10:16 PM, B. Victhom wrote: > >> Please provide some input : where to go in US, which has the charm, quality >> of life and century old villages of the Rideau and Trent-Severn system ? >> >> Certainly not the Mississippi. Tennessee River ? Hudson ? >> >> >>> Or alternately, instead of responding to the Canadian bureaucrats, simply >>> don’t go to Canada. Vote with your pocket book. Spend your money in the USA >>> where we still have a struggling economy on the brink of recession. Plenty of >>> great cruising ground in the USA. >> R. >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com >> >> To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, >> unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com