great-loop@lists.trawlering.com

Cruising America's Great Loop and other inland routes

View all threads

Fwd: RE: 4 Whistle / Horn Signal

J&
John & Judy Gill
Sun, Jan 29, 2012 4:46 PM

Begin forwarded message:

Joe and List,

There is no rule for a 4 Whistle or Horn signal!  However, it may be a local signal which is permitted under the COLREGS.

I checked this out with my cousin who is a graduate of Kingspoint and has an unlimited tonnage USCG license.

John

---========

On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:18 PM, CaptJoe60@aol.com wrote:

John, Et Al.

What is the reason for "4 Whistles"?

Thanks,

Joe

In a message dated 1/28/2012 4:33:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jjgill@twojscom.com writes:
Rich, Vance and List,

We have taught the Inland Horn Signals for the Power Squadrons basic safe boating courses for years.  Students have always had a hard time remembering the signals, because they are so infrequently used.  Also when you sound your horn or whistle, you normally only cause someone to wave at you!

Try this method of remembering the horn / whistle signals.

  1. The signal is always in relationship to the first vessel sounding the horn or whistle blast(s).

  2. This method works for both Overtaking and Passing another vessel Bow to Bow.

  3. Sound One Short Blast if you intend to pass or overtake the other vessel on your Port side (one blast for a one syllable word - Port)

  4. Sound Two Short Blasts if you intend to pass or overtake the other vessel on your Starboard side (two blasts for a two syllable word - Starboard.

  5. Sound Three Short Blasts if you are going Astern and other vessels are nearby (three blasts for three words).

  6. Sound One Long Blast if you are Leaving your Fairway (leaving is one longer word).

  7. Sound One Long and One Short Blast if you wish to have a bridge opening (Opening Bridge).

Anyway, it seems to work as evidenced by the proper answers to exam questions.

John and Judy Gill
Two J’s V, a 36 ft. Carver Mariner
Slip E-26, Sassafras Harbor Marina, Georgetown, MD
AGLCA Life Members, Gold Flag Loopers & Harbor Hosts
USPS Life Members & CPS-ECP Members
eMail:  < jjgill@twojscom.com >
Website:  http://www.twojscom.com/GreatLoop/

---========================

On Jan 28, 2012, at 10:52 AM, Rich Gano wrote:

Holy mackerel, what a mess I made in trying to clarify the whistle signals
for overtaking inland!  I guess that's part of the problem with electronic
versions of COLREGS; I just grabbed the international section instead of
Inland.  What's really embarrassing is that I of all people should have
caught the two prolonged blasts mentioned and avoided the error.

So please forgive my dopiness and thank you, Terry, for catching it.

Here is the correct citation for part of Rules 34 of the INLAND rules:

(c) When in sight of one another:
(i) a power-driven vessel intending to overtake another power-driven
vessel shall indicate her intention by the following signals on her
whistle: one short blast to mean “I intend to overtake you on your
starboard side”; two short blasts to mean “I intend to overtake you on
your port side”; and
(ii) the power-driven vessel about to be overtaken shall, if in
agreement, sound a similar sound signal. If in doubt she shall sound
the danger signal prescribed in paragraph (d).

NOW, to nuances, please note the six words (capitalized) that are different
in the International version of the first line of the quotation - When in
sight of one another IN A NARROW CHANNEL OR FAIRWAY:

So feel free to blow your horn in inland waters when overtaking another
vessel whether or not you are in a narrow channel - period.

Again, my apologies for those whose time I wasted with this error.

Rich Gano
Calypso (GB42 Hull # 295)
Panama City area, FL


http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com

To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address,
unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com

Begin forwarded message: > > Joe and List, > > There is no rule for a 4 Whistle or Horn signal! However, it may be a local signal which is permitted under the COLREGS. > > I checked this out with my cousin who is a graduate of Kingspoint and has an unlimited tonnage USCG license. > > John > > ========================================= > > > On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:18 PM, CaptJoe60@aol.com wrote: > >> John, Et Al. >> >> What is the reason for "4 Whistles"? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Joe >> >> >> >> In a message dated 1/28/2012 4:33:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jjgill@twojscom.com writes: >> Rich, Vance and List, >> >> We have taught the Inland Horn Signals for the Power Squadrons basic safe boating courses for years. Students have always had a hard time remembering the signals, because they are so infrequently used. Also when you sound your horn or whistle, you normally only cause someone to wave at you! >> >> Try this method of remembering the horn / whistle signals. >> >> 1. The signal is always in relationship to the first vessel sounding the horn or whistle blast(s). >> >> 2. This method works for both Overtaking and Passing another vessel Bow to Bow. >> >> 3. Sound One Short Blast if you intend to pass or overtake the other vessel on your Port side (one blast for a one syllable word - Port) >> >> 4. Sound Two Short Blasts if you intend to pass or overtake the other vessel on your Starboard side (two blasts for a two syllable word - Starboard. >> >> 5. Sound Three Short Blasts if you are going Astern and other vessels are nearby (three blasts for three words). >> >> 6. Sound One Long Blast if you are Leaving your Fairway (leaving is one longer word). >> >> 7. Sound One Long and One Short Blast if you wish to have a bridge opening (Opening Bridge). >> >> Anyway, it seems to work as evidenced by the proper answers to exam questions. >> >> John and Judy Gill >> Two J’s V, a 36 ft. Carver Mariner >> Slip E-26, Sassafras Harbor Marina, Georgetown, MD >> AGLCA Life Members, Gold Flag Loopers & Harbor Hosts >> USPS Life Members & CPS-ECP Members >> eMail: < jjgill@twojscom.com > >> Website: <http://www.twojscom.com/GreatLoop/> >> >> ========================================================= >> >> On Jan 28, 2012, at 10:52 AM, Rich Gano wrote: >> >>> Holy mackerel, what a mess I made in trying to clarify the whistle signals >>> for overtaking inland! I guess that's part of the problem with electronic >>> versions of COLREGS; I just grabbed the international section instead of >>> Inland. What's really embarrassing is that I of all people should have >>> caught the two prolonged blasts mentioned and avoided the error. >>> >>> So please forgive my dopiness and thank you, Terry, for catching it. >>> >>> Here is the correct citation for part of Rules 34 of the INLAND rules: >>> >>> (c) When in sight of one another: >>> (i) a power-driven vessel intending to overtake another power-driven >>> vessel shall indicate her intention by the following signals on her >>> whistle: one short blast to mean “I intend to overtake you on your >>> starboard side”; two short blasts to mean “I intend to overtake you on >>> your port side”; and >>> (ii) the power-driven vessel about to be overtaken shall, if in >>> agreement, sound a similar sound signal. If in doubt she shall sound >>> the danger signal prescribed in paragraph (d). >>> >>> NOW, to nuances, please note the six words (capitalized) that are different >>> in the International version of the first line of the quotation - When in >>> sight of one another IN A NARROW CHANNEL OR FAIRWAY: >>> >>> So feel free to blow your horn in inland waters when overtaking another >>> vessel whether or not you are in a narrow channel - period. >>> >>> Again, my apologies for those whose time I wasted with this error. >>> >>> Rich Gano >>> Calypso (GB42 Hull # 295) >>> Panama City area, FL >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com >>> >>> To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, >>> unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com >> >> To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, >> unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > >