Yes but this IS a two step process Mandy Other Python wrappers. My PR let Python directly Turn into objects Sayandeep Khan via Discuss <discuss@lists.openscad.org> schrieb am So., 23. Juli 2023, 13:04: > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Sayandeep Khan <seany@eclipso.de> > To: <discuss@lists.openscad.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2023 13:03:50 +0200 > Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: python support for openscad > will Lua also carry the same risks? > > on the other hand, there is this : https://github.com/hydroid7/Openscad.jl > > so the reverse might. be interesting as well > > --- Original message --- > From: Guenther Sohler <guenther.sohler@gmail.com> > Date: 23.07.2023 12:53 > To: OpenSCAD general discussion Mailing-list <discuss@lists.openscad.org> > Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: python support for openscad > > > The actual Python PR has Several Levels of Security gates which need to > >BE activated for Python to Work. Finally the User is asked for each New > >Python. File whether He Trusts IT. This Trust IS saved in Sha256 and ITS > >hard to Hack IT. > > Revar Desmera < revarbat@gmail.com > schrieb am So., 23. Juli 2023, > >12:14: > > That’s actually a pretty bad security risk. Right now you can trust > >that an OpenSCAD script you download from the net cannot possibly hack > >your system and install malware on your machine. This is not true of > >Python. It is doubtful that sites like Thingiverse would support running > >configurator scad scripts if you could run Python. > >Hacking Python to be a limited subset that is “safe” has proven in the > >past to be a dodgy and unreliable thing. > >As annoying as the OpenSCAD language’s limitations are, the focus is > >better directed to fixing those limitations in a secure manner. There > >are some promising improvements in the pipeline. We may even get to use > >them before the end of the decade. > >-Revar > >> On Jul 23, 2023, at 2:48 AM, Sanjeev Prabhakar < > >sprabhakar2006@gmail.com > wrote: > >> > >>  > >> I would request openscad software creators to add python language > >support, if it is not too difficult. > >> > >> This can simplify a lot of calculations and help many of us. > >> > >> Although, I have found a workaround which is working quite perfectly > >for me, but it would still be better in case it is made part of the > >openscad. > >> > >> Thanks > >> Sanjeev > >> _______________________________________________ > >> OpenSCAD mailing list > >> To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org > >_______________________________________________ > >OpenSCAD mailing list > >To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org > > > > ________________________________________________________ > Your E-Mail. Your Cloud. Your Office. eclipso Mail & Cloud. > https://www.eclipso.de > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Sayandeep Khan via Discuss <discuss@lists.openscad.org> > To: <discuss@lists.openscad.org> > Cc: Sayandeep Khan <seany@eclipso.de> > Bcc: > Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2023 13:03:50 +0200 > Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: python support for openscad > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org >

Does anyone know why the creators of OpenSCAD chose a functional programming paradigm? On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 6:39 AM Guenther Sohler <guenther.sohler@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes but this IS a two step process Mandy Other Python wrappers. My PR let > Python directly Turn into objects > > Sayandeep Khan via Discuss <discuss@lists.openscad.org> schrieb am So., > 23. Juli 2023, 13:04: > >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Sayandeep Khan <seany@eclipso.de> >> To: <discuss@lists.openscad.org> >> Cc: >> Bcc: >> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2023 13:03:50 +0200 >> Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: python support for openscad >> will Lua also carry the same risks? >> >> on the other hand, there is this : >> https://github.com/hydroid7/Openscad.jl >> >> so the reverse might. be interesting as well >> >> --- Original message --- >> From: Guenther Sohler <guenther.sohler@gmail.com> >> Date: 23.07.2023 12:53 >> To: OpenSCAD general discussion Mailing-list <discuss@lists.openscad.org> >> Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: python support for openscad >> >> > The actual Python PR has Several Levels of Security gates which need to >> >BE activated for Python to Work. Finally the User is asked for each New >> >Python. File whether He Trusts IT. This Trust IS saved in Sha256 and ITS >> >hard to Hack IT. >> > Revar Desmera < revarbat@gmail.com > schrieb am So., 23. Juli 2023, >> >12:14: >> > That’s actually a pretty bad security risk. Right now you can trust >> >that an OpenSCAD script you download from the net cannot possibly hack >> >your system and install malware on your machine. This is not true of >> >Python. It is doubtful that sites like Thingiverse would support running >> >configurator scad scripts if you could run Python. >> >Hacking Python to be a limited subset that is “safe” has proven in the >> >past to be a dodgy and unreliable thing. >> >As annoying as the OpenSCAD language’s limitations are, the focus is >> >better directed to fixing those limitations in a secure manner. There >> >are some promising improvements in the pipeline. We may even get to use >> >them before the end of the decade. >> >-Revar >> >> On Jul 23, 2023, at 2:48 AM, Sanjeev Prabhakar < >> >sprabhakar2006@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> >> >>  >> >> I would request openscad software creators to add python language >> >support, if it is not too difficult. >> >> >> >> This can simplify a lot of calculations and help many of us. >> >> >> >> Although, I have found a workaround which is working quite perfectly >> >for me, but it would still be better in case it is made part of the >> >openscad. >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Sanjeev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> OpenSCAD mailing list >> >> To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org >> >_______________________________________________ >> >OpenSCAD mailing list >> >To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org >> > >> >> ________________________________________________________ >> Your E-Mail. Your Cloud. Your Office. eclipso Mail & Cloud. >> https://www.eclipso.de >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Sayandeep Khan via Discuss <discuss@lists.openscad.org> >> To: <discuss@lists.openscad.org> >> Cc: Sayandeep Khan <seany@eclipso.de> >> Bcc: >> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2023 13:03:50 +0200 >> Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: python support for openscad >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenSCAD mailing list >> To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org >> > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org >

Because it is just a description of shapes, not a procedure. On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 at 13:26, Father Horton <fatherhorton@gmail.com> wrote: > Does anyone know why the creators of OpenSCAD chose a functional > programming paradigm? > > On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 6:39 AM Guenther Sohler <guenther.sohler@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Yes but this IS a two step process Mandy Other Python wrappers. My PR let >> Python directly Turn into objects >> >> Sayandeep Khan via Discuss <discuss@lists.openscad.org> schrieb am So., >> 23. Juli 2023, 13:04: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Sayandeep Khan <seany@eclipso.de> >>> To: <discuss@lists.openscad.org> >>> Cc: >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2023 13:03:50 +0200 >>> Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: python support for openscad >>> will Lua also carry the same risks? >>> >>> on the other hand, there is this : >>> https://github.com/hydroid7/Openscad.jl >>> >>> so the reverse might. be interesting as well >>> >>> --- Original message --- >>> From: Guenther Sohler <guenther.sohler@gmail.com> >>> Date: 23.07.2023 12:53 >>> To: OpenSCAD general discussion Mailing-list <discuss@lists.openscad.org >>> > >>> Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: python support for openscad >>> >>> > The actual Python PR has Several Levels of Security gates which need >>> to >>> >BE activated for Python to Work. Finally the User is asked for each New >>> >Python. File whether He Trusts IT. This Trust IS saved in Sha256 and >>> ITS >>> >hard to Hack IT. >>> > Revar Desmera < revarbat@gmail.com > schrieb am So., 23. Juli 2023, >>> >12:14: >>> > That’s actually a pretty bad security risk. Right now you can trust >>> >that an OpenSCAD script you download from the net cannot possibly hack >>> >your system and install malware on your machine. This is not true of >>> >Python. It is doubtful that sites like Thingiverse would support >>> running >>> >configurator scad scripts if you could run Python. >>> >Hacking Python to be a limited subset that is “safe” has proven in the >>> >past to be a dodgy and unreliable thing. >>> >As annoying as the OpenSCAD language’s limitations are, the focus is >>> >better directed to fixing those limitations in a secure manner. There >>> >are some promising improvements in the pipeline. We may even get to use >>> >them before the end of the decade. >>> >-Revar >>> >> On Jul 23, 2023, at 2:48 AM, Sanjeev Prabhakar < >>> >sprabhakar2006@gmail.com > wrote: >>> >> >>> >>  >>> >> I would request openscad software creators to add python language >>> >support, if it is not too difficult. >>> >> >>> >> This can simplify a lot of calculations and help many of us. >>> >> >>> >> Although, I have found a workaround which is working quite perfectly >>> >for me, but it would still be better in case it is made part of the >>> >openscad. >>> >> >>> >> Thanks >>> >> Sanjeev >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> OpenSCAD mailing list >>> >> To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org >>> >_______________________________________________ >>> >OpenSCAD mailing list >>> >To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org >>> > >>> >>> ________________________________________________________ >>> Your E-Mail. Your Cloud. Your Office. eclipso Mail & Cloud. >>> https://www.eclipso.de >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Sayandeep Khan via Discuss <discuss@lists.openscad.org> >>> To: <discuss@lists.openscad.org> >>> Cc: Sayandeep Khan <seany@eclipso.de> >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2023 13:03:50 +0200 >>> Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: python support for openscad >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OpenSCAD mailing list >>> To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenSCAD mailing list >> To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org >> > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org >

The Sole ability to describe shapes in a descriptive Paradigm only results in deeply hierarchical Scripts whereas in a functional language probably a for Loop and few statements inside would be sufficient. Btw for loops are Main Part of OpenSCAD.imho they are best Proof that descriptive only language only is Not so powerful. nop head <nop.head@gmail.com> schrieb am So., 23. Juli 2023, 15:46: > Because it is just a description of shapes, not a procedure. > > On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 at 13:26, Father Horton <fatherhorton@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Does anyone know why the creators of OpenSCAD chose a functional >> programming paradigm? >> >> On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 6:39 AM Guenther Sohler < >> guenther.sohler@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Yes but this IS a two step process Mandy Other Python wrappers. My PR >>> let Python directly Turn into objects >>> >>> Sayandeep Khan via Discuss <discuss@lists.openscad.org> schrieb am So., >>> 23. Juli 2023, 13:04: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: Sayandeep Khan <seany@eclipso.de> >>>> To: <discuss@lists.openscad.org> >>>> Cc: >>>> Bcc: >>>> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2023 13:03:50 +0200 >>>> Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: python support for openscad >>>> will Lua also carry the same risks? >>>> >>>> on the other hand, there is this : >>>> https://github.com/hydroid7/Openscad.jl >>>> >>>> so the reverse might. be interesting as well >>>> >>>> --- Original message --- >>>> From: Guenther Sohler <guenther.sohler@gmail.com> >>>> Date: 23.07.2023 12:53 >>>> To: OpenSCAD general discussion Mailing-list < >>>> discuss@lists.openscad.org> >>>> Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: python support for openscad >>>> >>>> > The actual Python PR has Several Levels of Security gates which need >>>> to >>>> >BE activated for Python to Work. Finally the User is asked for each >>>> New >>>> >Python. File whether He Trusts IT. This Trust IS saved in Sha256 and >>>> ITS >>>> >hard to Hack IT. >>>> > Revar Desmera < revarbat@gmail.com > schrieb am So., 23. Juli 2023, >>>> >12:14: >>>> > That’s actually a pretty bad security risk. Right now you can trust >>>> >that an OpenSCAD script you download from the net cannot possibly hack >>>> >your system and install malware on your machine. This is not true of >>>> >Python. It is doubtful that sites like Thingiverse would support >>>> running >>>> >configurator scad scripts if you could run Python. >>>> >Hacking Python to be a limited subset that is “safe” has proven in the >>>> >past to be a dodgy and unreliable thing. >>>> >As annoying as the OpenSCAD language’s limitations are, the focus is >>>> >better directed to fixing those limitations in a secure manner. There >>>> >are some promising improvements in the pipeline. We may even get to >>>> use >>>> >them before the end of the decade. >>>> >-Revar >>>> >> On Jul 23, 2023, at 2:48 AM, Sanjeev Prabhakar < >>>> >sprabhakar2006@gmail.com > wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >>  >>>> >> I would request openscad software creators to add python language >>>> >support, if it is not too difficult. >>>> >> >>>> >> This can simplify a lot of calculations and help many of us. >>>> >> >>>> >> Although, I have found a workaround which is working quite perfectly >>>> >for me, but it would still be better in case it is made part of the >>>> >openscad. >>>> >> >>>> >> Thanks >>>> >> Sanjeev >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> OpenSCAD mailing list >>>> >> To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org >>>> >_______________________________________________ >>>> >OpenSCAD mailing list >>>> >To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org >>>> > >>>> >>>> ________________________________________________________ >>>> Your E-Mail. Your Cloud. Your Office. eclipso Mail & Cloud. >>>> https://www.eclipso.de >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: Sayandeep Khan via Discuss <discuss@lists.openscad.org> >>>> To: <discuss@lists.openscad.org> >>>> Cc: Sayandeep Khan <seany@eclipso.de> >>>> Bcc: >>>> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2023 13:03:50 +0200 >>>> Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: python support for openscad >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OpenSCAD mailing list >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OpenSCAD mailing list >>> To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenSCAD mailing list >> To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org >> > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org >

There are a _lot_ of options for creating OpenSCAD code using Python, and even a couple of out-and-out replacements --- it's a bad case of: https://xkcd.com/927/ At one point in time I was trying to keep track of all the programmatic options for CAD and CAM, and the Python/OpenSCAD interface was so voluminous I made a special section for it wher I was just pasting links w/o commentary: https://old.reddit.com/r/shapeoko/wiki/programming#wiki_python What would you like to do using what approach that OpenSCAD isn't working for? I suspect that there's a feature of the language you aren't using which will address it elegantly. William