Dick,
I have some experience with a pair of the 210 bhp, non-turbocharged version
3208 Caterpillars that may be of some help. I have been exposed to several
different opinions on the overhaul life.
Some say the overhaul life is 6000 to 8000 hours.
Our local Cat dealer held a seminar for 3208 owners a couple of years ago.
During the question and answer session the 3208's life was discussed in
terms of total fuel burned by the engine. Numbers quoted ranged from 30,000
gallons to 100,000 gallons total fuel burn before overhaul. This approach
of estimating life treats the engine as an energy conversion device( which
it is) and that it can convert just so much energy in it's life. When life
is estimated this way it is dependent on the power level at which you
operate the engine. This is especially important relative to the 3208
because it's various versions carry maximum bhp ratings from 150 up to 435.
Naturally you'll be cruising at less than maximum bhp.
If you go to our website, http://members.tripod.com/~Nereid_V/ and look at
our equipment page, there are two links you may find of interest, one is to
Cat's site. Once there you'll have to further surf to get to their marine
engine rating sheets, look for sheet LEHM 5037. There you can find fuel
burn figures for all versions of the 3208 at various engine speeds. The
other link just above it will take you to our engine/ propeller performance
estimates for our vessel. We get 9 to 10 knots at about 1600 rpm (39 bhp)
at a fuel burn of 2 to 3 gph/engine.
My major concern with the boat you are looking is that you will turn the
engines too slowly if you want to operate at displacement boat speed. I
would contact Caterpillar relative to their minimum recommended cruise
engine speed. Cruise on a single engine could be a alternative
In so far as engine weaknesses, the Jabsco raw water pump is the most
troublesome item. Our only other significant problem has been failure of
both engine's throttle input shaft seals. I understand these are only good
for 15 years or so service. $20 in parts but 10 hours labor to replace per
engine. We have only about 1500 hours on our 18 year old 3208's.
I have no idea about the maintenance implications of the turbochargers and
intercoolers.
My only relationship with Cat and it's dealer is being a very satisfied
customer.
Regards,
George Brooks
Nereid V
LaConner, WA
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Subject: 375 CATS/88 46 GRAND BANKS
I'm toyiing with the purchase of a 88 46 Grandbanks classic with 375 Cats.
anybody give me there ideas what I should be thinking about as far as
in regards to either of these specs. Insofar as the Cats what kind of
cost am I looking at with aprox 300 hrs of use per year, the boat now has
hrs.At what hours do the big cost come rolling in on these engines?
to look out for during survey? Also is there any quirks about a 46 that I
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Dick,
I have some experience with a pair of the 210 bhp, non-turbocharged version
3208 Caterpillars that may be of some help. I have been exposed to several
different opinions on the overhaul life.
Some say the overhaul life is 6000 to 8000 hours.
Our local Cat dealer held a seminar for 3208 owners a couple of years ago.
During the question and answer session the 3208's life was discussed in
terms of total fuel burned by the engine. Numbers quoted ranged from 30,000
gallons to 100,000 gallons total fuel burn before overhaul. This approach
of estimating life treats the engine as an energy conversion device( which
it is) and that it can convert just so much energy in it's life. When life
is estimated this way it is dependent on the power level at which you
operate the engine. This is especially important relative to the 3208
because it's various versions carry maximum bhp ratings from 150 up to 435.
Naturally you'll be cruising at less than maximum bhp.
If you go to our website, http://members.tripod.com/~Nereid_V/ and look at
our equipment page, there are two links you may find of interest, one is to
Cat's site. Once there you'll have to further surf to get to their marine
engine rating sheets, look for sheet LEHM 5037. There you can find fuel
burn figures for all versions of the 3208 at various engine speeds. The
other link just above it will take you to our engine/ propeller performance
estimates for our vessel. We get 9 to 10 knots at about 1600 rpm (39 bhp)
at a fuel burn of 2 to 3 gph/engine.
My major concern with the boat you are looking is that you will turn the
engines too slowly if you want to operate at displacement boat speed. I
would contact Caterpillar relative to their minimum recommended cruise
engine speed. Cruise on a single engine could be a alternative
In so far as engine weaknesses, the Jabsco raw water pump is the most
troublesome item. Our only other significant problem has been failure of
both engine's throttle input shaft seals. I understand these are only good
for 15 years or so service. $20 in parts but 10 hours labor to replace per
engine. We have only about 1500 hours on our 18 year old 3208's.
I have no idea about the maintenance implications of the turbochargers and
intercoolers.
My only relationship with Cat and it's dealer is being a very satisfied
customer.
Regards,
George Brooks
Nereid V
LaConner, WA
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Subject: 375 CATS/88 46 GRAND BANKS
>I'm toyiing with the purchase of a 88 46 Grandbanks classic with 375 Cats.
Can
>anybody give me there ideas what I should be thinking about as far as
concerns
>in regards to either of these specs. Insofar as the Cats what kind of
annual
>cost am I looking at with aprox 300 hrs of use per year, the boat now has
1200
>hrs.At what hours do the big cost come rolling in on these engines?
Anything
>to look out for during survey? Also is there any quirks about a 46 that I
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>Thanks
>Dick von Roth