Jonah,
You shouldn't have a problem finding berths along the eastern seaboard.
We have done the ICW between Florida and Norfolk a couple of times
without problems.(65' X 25') We've also been all the way to Baltimore on
the inside and NYC/Boston/Halifax if you feel like going on the outside.
I think NYC was the only place that bumped up our rate based on width.
As far as lifts go, you do have to actually make a couple of calls and
check around. But how often do you haul out anyways.
As an aside, there are some great sandbars in Georgia that you can park
on. With the 6'+ tide, its a great chance to do some bottom cleaning.
We inadvertantly found this out. But thats what skegs are for.
I'd recommend, on the trip north, hop in the gulf stream. You'll shave
300 miles off the trip north, travel 2-3 knots faster, and the fishing is
incredible. It means you'll have to go overnight, but if you have a nice
southerly under 15 knots, it will be beautiful and you're guarenteed to
have a half dozen flying fish on the deck by morning.
Mike Petersen
M/V Chrysalis
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:16:15 +0100
From: "Tradesure" <tradesure @libello.com>
Subject: Re: [PCW] The popularity of Catamarans
To: "Power Catamaran List" power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
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Robert,
Aventure Catamaran builds a power styled power Catamaran
that is 50foot long and 15.86 ft wide nd dsigned by Lavranos
and Wright.
There website is www.aventure-powercatamaran.com.
Regards,
Lesley.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Kimsey" <rak2421@hot mail.com>
To: "'Power Catamaran List'" power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 6:21 PM
Subject: [PCW] The popularity of Catamarans
I am a catamaran lover and would buy one in a minute but cannot find
permanent moorage. The beam of the boats, after 18 feet, simply
impossible to find a home (at least where I live in Bellingham
Washington).
In order to have a larger catamaran (over 34') I would have to have
side-tie and those are few and far between. It took me 9 years to
60'
(60' x 18') slip for my monohull.
I think catamarans will become more popular when marinas provide
moorages for them.
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
Message: 2
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:32:16 -0400
From: Jonah Jones <jonah@northr ock.bm>
Subject: Re: [PCW] The popularity of Catamarans
To: Power Catamaran List power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Message-ID: CB596B49-8430-42CE-A144-3C84E692CCB0@northrock.bm< BR>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
I'm picking up an Endeavour 48 next month from the factory (St Pete)
and we will be cruising her up to Delaware over the following three
months.
I'll report back on any slip dramas en route. Its an 18 ft beam.
Jonah
www.jonah-art.com
On Feb 28, 2008, at 9:16 AM, Tradesure wrote:
Robert,
Aventure Catamaran builds a power styled power Catamaran
that is 50foot long and 15.86 ft wide nd dsigned by
Lavranos
and Wright.
There website is www.aventure-powercatamaran.com.
Regards,
Lesley.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Kimsey" <rak2421@hot mail.com>
To: "'Power Catamaran List'" power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 6:21 PM
Subject: [PCW] The popularity of Catamarans
I am a catamaran lover and would buy one in a minute but cannot
find a
permanent moorage. The beam of the boats, after 18 feet, simply
makes it
impossible to find a home (at least where I live in Bellingham
Washington).
In order to have a larger catamaran (over 34') I would have to
side-tie and those are few and far between. It took me 9 years to
get a
60'
(60' x 18') slip for my monohull.
I think catamarans will become more popular when marinas provide
wider
moorages for them.
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
Message: 3
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:44:10 +0100
From: "Tradesure" <tradesure @libello.com>
Subject: Re: [PCW] The popularity of Catamarans
To: "Power Catamaran List" power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Message-ID: <008301c87a0f$ff94a950$9503a8c0@le sley630e5815>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Jonah,
It is not only the slips you must consider.
All small marina's that own travel lifts have the base model
which has a beam to lift boats up to 16ft.
Thereafter, the next hoist level is beams 22ft/24ft , which is
more
expensive to use and not found in any smaller marina's,
especially in the
inland waterways as I found out when we delivered an Aventure 43
once
we hit logs.
With a beam of 15.85 we did not have a problem.
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonah Jones" <jonah@northr ock.bm>
To: "Power Catamaran List" power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [PCW] The popularity of Catamarans
I'm picking up an Endeavour 48 next month from the factory (St
and we will be cruising her up to Delaware over the following three
months.
I'll report back on any slip dramas en route. Its an 18 ft beam.
Jonah
www.jonah-art.com
On Feb 28, 2008, at 9:16 AM, Tradesure wrote:
Robert,
Aventure Catamaran builds a power styled power Catamaran
that is 50foot long and 15.86 ft wide nd dsigned by
Lavranos
and Wright.
There website is www.aventure-powercatamaran.com.
Regards,
Lesley.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Kimsey" <rak2421@hot mail.com>
To: "'Power Catamaran List'" power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 6:21 PM
Subject: [PCW] The popularity of Catamarans
I am a catamaran lover and would buy one in a minute but cannot
find a
permanent moorage. The beam of the boats, after 18 feet, simply
makes it
impossible to find a home (at least where I live in Bellingham
Washington).
In order to have a larger catamaran (over 34') I would have to
side-tie and those are few and far between. It took me 9 years to
get a
60'
(60' x 18') slip for my monohull.
I think catamarans will become more popular when marinas provide
wider
moorages for them.
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
Message: 4
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:47:56 -0400
From: Jonah Jones <jonah@northr ock.bm>
Subject: Re: [PCW] The popularity of Catamarans
To: Power Catamaran List power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Message-ID: 92ADE4E1-BF09-4EA1-8EE1-2D43C367D1D2@northrock.bm< BR>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Point taken,
however, on a personal note, I would opt for the beam and extra
space provided.
Hauling a boat is hopefully not a regular occurrence.
I can also report back on any problems (if the forum is interested)
we have with access to suitable travel lifts on our trip North if we
need one at any stage.
Jonah.
www.jonah-art.com
On Feb 28, 2008, at 9:44 AM, Tradesure wrote:
Jonah,
It is not only the slips you must consider.
All small marina's that own travel lifts have the base
model
which has a beam to lift boats up to 16ft.
Thereafter, the next hoist level is beams 22ft/24ft ,
which is
more
expensive to use and not found in any smaller marina's,
especially in the
inland waterways as I found out when we delivered an
Aventure 43
once
we hit logs.
With a beam of 15.85 we did not have a problem.
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonah Jones" <jonah@northr ock.bm>
To: "Power Catamaran List" power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [PCW] The popularity of Catamarans
I'm picking up an Endeavour 48 next month from the factory (St
and we will be cruising her up to Delaware over the following
months.
I'll report back on any slip dramas en route. Its an 18 ft beam.
Jonah
www.jonah-art.com
On Feb 28, 2008, at 9:16 AM, Tradesure wrote:
Robert,
Aventure Catamaran builds a power styled power
Catamaran
that is 50foot long and 15.86 ft wide nd dsigned by
Lavranos
and Wright.
There website is www.aventure-powercatamaran.com.
Regards,
Lesley.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Kimsey" <rak2421@hot mail.com>
To: "'Power Catamaran List'" power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 6:21 PM
Subject: [PCW] The popularity of Catamarans
I am a catamaran lover and would buy one in a minute but cannot
find a
permanent moorage. The beam of the boats, after 18 feet, simply
makes it
impossible to find a home (at least where I live in Bellingham
Washington).
In order to have a larger catamaran (over 34') I would have to
have a
side-tie and those are few and far between. It took me 9 years
get a
60'
(60' x 18') slip for my monohull.
I think catamarans will become more popular when marinas provide
wider
moorages for them.
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:07:28 +0100
From: "Tradesure" <tradesure @libello.com>
Subject: Re: [PCW] Powercat design
To: "Power Catamaran List" power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Message-ID: <011301c87a1b$a2444d30$9503a8c0@le sley630e5815>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Kristine,
There are quite a few manufacturers who come close to what Pat
suggests,
although some power catamarans still have the sail boat look without
the
mast, and the
wide beam with cabins only in the hulls, never using the tunnel
space.
Aventure Powercatamarans build a 48ft power catamaran that looks like
a motorboat, a beam of 15.85 ft, (one dockage only) 3 or 4 proper
double
Cabins,
seperate saloon with seperate dinning, with full headroom engineroom.
They are slowly reaching the point where all Pat's criteria's could
be met.
www.aventure-powercatamaran.com
Lesley.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kristine Fletcher" <failten46@g mail.com>
To: "Power Catamaran List" power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [PCW] Powercat design
So, who manufactures the type of offshore/liveaboard catamaran Pat
describes? We can't find one that fits the bill with the attributes
describes without compromising fit and finish, which is also
our liveaboard satisfaction.
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
End of Power-Catamaran Digest, Vol 36, Issue 17
Jonah,
You shouldn't have a problem finding berths along the eastern seaboard.
We have done the ICW between Florida and Norfolk a couple of times
without problems.(65' X 25') We've also been all the way to Baltimore on
the inside and NYC/Boston/Halifax if you feel like going on the outside.
I think NYC was the only place that bumped up our rate based on width.
As far as lifts go, you do have to actually make a couple of calls and
check around. But how often do you haul out anyways.
As an aside, there are some great sandbars in Georgia that you can park
on. With the 6'+ tide, its a great chance to do some bottom cleaning.
We inadvertantly found this out. But thats what skegs are for.
I'd recommend, on the trip north, hop in the gulf stream. You'll shave
300 miles off the trip north, travel 2-3 knots faster, and the fishing is
incredible. It means you'll have to go overnight, but if you have a nice
southerly under 15 knots, it will be beautiful and you're guarenteed to
have a half dozen flying fish on the deck by morning.
Mike Petersen
M/V Chrysalis
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3. Re: The popularity of Catamarans (Tradesure)
4. Re: The popularity of Catamarans (Jonah Jones)
5. Re: Powercat design (Tradesure)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:16:15 +0100
From: "Tradesure" <tradesure @libello.com>
Subject: Re: [PCW] The popularity of Catamarans
To: "Power Catamaran List" <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com>
Message-ID: <007201c87a0c$1965fe50$9503a8c0@le sley630e5815>
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Robert,
Aventure Catamaran builds a power styled power Catamaran
that is 50foot long and 15.86 ft wide nd dsigned by Lavranos
and Wright.
There website is www.aventure-powercatamaran.com.
Regards,
Lesley.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Kimsey" <rak2421@hot mail.com>
To: "'Power Catamaran List'" <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 6:21 PM
Subject: [PCW] The popularity of Catamarans
>I am a catamaran lover and would buy one in a minute but cannot find
a
> permanent moorage. The beam of the boats, after 18 feet, simply
makes it
> impossible to find a home (at least where I live in Bellingham
> Washington).
> In order to have a larger catamaran (over 34') I would have to have
a
> side-tie and those are few and far between. It took me 9 years to
get a
> 60'
> (60' x 18') slip for my monohull.
>
> I think catamarans will become more popular when marinas provide
wider
> moorages for them.
> _______________________________________________
> Power-Catamaran Mailing List
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:32:16 -0400
From: Jonah Jones <jonah@northr ock.bm>
Subject: Re: [PCW] The popularity of Catamarans
To: Power Catamaran List <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com>
Message-ID: <CB596B49-8430-42CE-A144-3C84E692CCB0@northrock.bm>< BR>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
I'm picking up an Endeavour 48 next month from the factory (St Pete)
and we will be cruising her up to Delaware over the following three
months.
I'll report back on any slip dramas en route. Its an 18 ft beam.
Jonah
www.jonah-art.com
On Feb 28, 2008, at 9:16 AM, Tradesure wrote:
> Robert,
> Aventure Catamaran builds a power styled power Catamaran
> that is 50foot long and 15.86 ft wide nd dsigned by
> Lavranos
> and Wright.
> There website is www.aventure-powercatamaran.com.
>
> Regards,
>
> Lesley.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Kimsey" <rak2421@hot mail.com>
> To: "'Power Catamaran List'" <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 6:21 PM
> Subject: [PCW] The popularity of Catamarans
>
>
>> I am a catamaran lover and would buy one in a minute but cannot
>> find a
>> permanent moorage. The beam of the boats, after 18 feet, simply
>> makes it
>> impossible to find a home (at least where I live in Bellingham
>> Washington).
>> In order to have a larger catamaran (over 34') I would have to
have a
>> side-tie and those are few and far between. It took me 9 years to
>> get a
>> 60'
>> (60' x 18') slip for my monohull.
>>
>> I think catamarans will become more popular when marinas provide
>> wider
>> moorages for them.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Power-Catamaran Mailing List
> _______________________________________________
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------------------------------
Message: 3
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:44:10 +0100
From: "Tradesure" <tradesure @libello.com>
Subject: Re: [PCW] The popularity of Catamarans
To: "Power Catamaran List" <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com>
Message-ID: <008301c87a0f$ff94a950$9503a8c0@le sley630e5815>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Jonah,
It is not only the slips you must consider.
All small marina's that own travel lifts have the base model
which has a beam to lift boats up to 16ft.
Thereafter, the next hoist level is beams 22ft/24ft , which is
more
expensive to use and not found in any smaller marina's,
especially in the
inland waterways as I found out when we delivered an Aventure 43
once
we hit logs.
With a beam of 15.85 we did not have a problem.
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonah Jones" <jonah@northr ock.bm>
To: "Power Catamaran List" <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [PCW] The popularity of Catamarans
> I'm picking up an Endeavour 48 next month from the factory (St
Pete)
> and we will be cruising her up to Delaware over the following three
> months.
> I'll report back on any slip dramas en route. Its an 18 ft beam.
>
> Jonah
> www.jonah-art.com
> On Feb 28, 2008, at 9:16 AM, Tradesure wrote:
>
>> Robert,
>> Aventure Catamaran builds a power styled power Catamaran
>> that is 50foot long and 15.86 ft wide nd dsigned by
>> Lavranos
>> and Wright.
>> There website is www.aventure-powercatamaran.com.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Lesley.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Robert Kimsey" <rak2421@hot mail.com>
>> To: "'Power Catamaran List'" <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 6:21 PM
>> Subject: [PCW] The popularity of Catamarans
>>
>>
>>> I am a catamaran lover and would buy one in a minute but cannot
>>> find a
>>> permanent moorage. The beam of the boats, after 18 feet, simply
>>> makes it
>>> impossible to find a home (at least where I live in Bellingham
>>> Washington).
>>> In order to have a larger catamaran (over 34') I would have to
have a
>>> side-tie and those are few and far between. It took me 9 years to
>>> get a
>>> 60'
>>> (60' x 18') slip for my monohull.
>>>
>>> I think catamarans will become more popular when marinas provide
>>> wider
>>> moorages for them.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Power-Catamaran Mailing List
>> _______________________________________________
>> Power-Catamaran Mailing List
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------------------------------
Message: 4
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:47:56 -0400
From: Jonah Jones <jonah@northr ock.bm>
Subject: Re: [PCW] The popularity of Catamarans
To: Power Catamaran List <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com>
Message-ID: <92ADE4E1-BF09-4EA1-8EE1-2D43C367D1D2@northrock.bm>< BR>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Point taken,
however, on a personal note, I would opt for the beam and extra
space provided.
Hauling a boat is hopefully not a regular occurrence.
I can also report back on any problems (if the forum is interested)
we have with access to suitable travel lifts on our trip North if we
need one at any stage.
Jonah.
www.jonah-art.com
On Feb 28, 2008, at 9:44 AM, Tradesure wrote:
> Jonah,
> It is not only the slips you must consider.
>
> All small marina's that own travel lifts have the base
> model
> which has a beam to lift boats up to 16ft.
>
> Thereafter, the next hoist level is beams 22ft/24ft ,
> which is
> more
> expensive to use and not found in any smaller marina's,
> especially in the
> inland waterways as I found out when we delivered an
> Aventure 43
> once
> we hit logs.
> With a beam of 15.85 we did not have a problem.
>
> Tim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jonah Jones" <jonah@northr ock.bm>
> To: "Power Catamaran List" <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [PCW] The popularity of Catamarans
>
>
>> I'm picking up an Endeavour 48 next month from the factory (St
Pete)
>> and we will be cruising her up to Delaware over the following
three
>> months.
>> I'll report back on any slip dramas en route. Its an 18 ft beam.
>>
>> Jonah
>> www.jonah-art.com
>> On Feb 28, 2008, at 9:16 AM, Tradesure wrote:
>>
>>> Robert,
>>> Aventure Catamaran builds a power styled power
>>> Catamaran
>>> that is 50foot long and 15.86 ft wide nd dsigned by
>>> Lavranos
>>> and Wright.
>>> There website is www.aventure-powercatamaran.com.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Lesley.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Robert Kimsey" <rak2421@hot mail.com>
>>> To: "'Power Catamaran List'" <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 6:21 PM
>>> Subject: [PCW] The popularity of Catamarans
>>>
>>>
>>>> I am a catamaran lover and would buy one in a minute but cannot
>>>> find a
>>>> permanent moorage. The beam of the boats, after 18 feet, simply
>>>> makes it
>>>> impossible to find a home (at least where I live in Bellingham
>>>> Washington).
>>>> In order to have a larger catamaran (over 34') I would have to
>>>> have a
>>>> side-tie and those are few and far between. It took me 9 years
to
>>>> get a
>>>> 60'
>>>> (60' x 18') slip for my monohull.
>>>>
>>>> I think catamarans will become more popular when marinas provide
>>>> wider
>>>> moorages for them.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Power-Catamaran Mailing List
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Power-Catamaran Mailing List
>> _______________________________________________
>> Power-Catamaran Mailing List
> _______________________________________________
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------------------------------
Message: 5
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:07:28 +0100
From: "Tradesure" <tradesure @libello.com>
Subject: Re: [PCW] Powercat design
To: "Power Catamaran List" <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com>
Message-ID: <011301c87a1b$a2444d30$9503a8c0@le sley630e5815>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Kristine,
There are quite a few manufacturers who come close to what Pat
suggests,
although some power catamarans still have the sail boat look without
the
mast, and the
wide beam with cabins only in the hulls, never using the tunnel
space.
Aventure Powercatamarans build a 48ft power catamaran that looks like
a motorboat, a beam of 15.85 ft, (one dockage only) 3 or 4 proper
double
Cabins,
seperate saloon with seperate dinning, with full headroom engineroom.
They are slowly reaching the point where all Pat's criteria's could
be met.
www.aventure-powercatamaran.com
Lesley.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kristine Fletcher" <failten46@g mail.com>
To: "Power Catamaran List" <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com>
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [PCW] Powercat design
> So, who manufactures the type of offshore/liveaboard catamaran Pat
> describes? We can't find one that fits the bill with the attributes
he
> describes without compromising fit and finish, which is also
important to
> our liveaboard satisfaction.
> _______________________________________________
> Power-Catamaran Mailing List
------------------------------
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