the seles claims to burn .88lt/nmile and prowler vt950 1.2lt/nmile at 15knts. The seles is a smaller boat. I do not know how to do the conversion to gallons/hour from lt/nmile. Does anyone know how to do it? Pdq 34 is a great boat, I have a rinker 34 2002 and would consider a trade if anybody is interested. > From: power-catamaran-request@lists.samurai.com > Subject: Power-Catamaran Digest, Vol 57, Issue 7 > To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com > Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 00:00:01 -0500 > > Send Power-Catamaran mailing list submissions to > power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/power-catamaran > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > power-catamaran-request@lists.samurai.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > power-catamaran-owner@lists.samurai.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Power-Catamaran digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. shionning vt950 (bill benson) > 2. Re: shionning vt950 (Thai-Kiwi Marine Co Ltd) > 3. Re: shionning vt950 (Henry Clews) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 16:42:01 -0500 > From: bill benson <bb8176@hotmail.com> > To: <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> > Subject: [PCW] shionning vt950 > Message-ID: <BLU127-W16559516BED337B5DC8C9CC76F0@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > shionning sell a powercat "prowler vt 950. /check out 'shionning designs' . > Its fast, shallow draft, and I think more fuel efficient then the 34 pdq. > [henry, owner of sno-dog, I would like to hear your thoughts on this model.] > It comes in a kit that sells for $175,000.00. 3000 man hours to build. [does > that mean $50 per hour, so an extra $150,000 to build it?] Anybody out there > who has any thoughts good or bad, I would be interested to hear them. The > seles yacht has even better fuel economy but it is a smaller craft. Is > Australia a step up on power multihulls then over here? > > > From: power-catamaran-request@lists.samurai.com > > Subject: Power-Catamaran Digest, Vol 57, Issue 5 > > To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com > > Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 00:00:00 -0500 > > > > Send Power-Catamaran mailing list submissions to > > power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/power-catamaran > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > power-catamaran-request@lists.samurai.com > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > power-catamaran-owner@lists.samurai.com > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Power-Catamaran digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Welcome aboard (Gary Bell) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 06:39:59 -0800 > > From: Gary Bell <tulgey@earthlink.net> > > To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com > > Subject: [PCW] Welcome aboard > > Message-ID: <4B44A0BF.6030606@earthlink.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > > > All hands-- > > > > > > > > Join me in welcoming Robert Franklin to the List. > > > > > Gladly Georgs. Welcome Robert and Patty! > > > > > > > > > >> > > My wife Patty and I live in Lynchburg, Virginia and are certain to > > >> > > be the most inexperienced and least knowledgeable members of the > > >> > > list. We have never owned a motor boat. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> <snip> ...in a former life I was a > > >> > > chemical engineer and still do some consulting... > > I challenge the least knowledgeable part. You will be surprised at how > > useful your chemical and engineering experiences will be on a list where > > fuels, lubricants, paints, building materials (particularly composites > > like FRP), etc. are common topics. Most of what we all learned about > > how to live on land extends onto the water as well: finance, cooking, > > relationships, insurance, health care, etc. etc. etc.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > <snip> Since we are both in our 50's and are coming to boating late > in life > > >> > > we will probably only buy one boat so we want to make the most > > >> > > informed decision possible. > > >> > > You certainly can do that, but instead of a single momentous decision on > > which so much rides please consider that real experience is the only way > > to develop and understand your own capabilities and preferences. The > > only way to learn to ride a bike is with both feet on the pedals and a > > couple of Band-Aids in your pocket. I strongly suggest instead that you > > get a progression of boats from the smaller, simpler and cheaper working > > your way toward your ultimate goal of a coastal cruising power > > catamaran. And don't fixate on just one single unchanging final goal > > here, feel free to re-evaluate as you go. You will need plenty of help > > and advice along the way, and these lists are great places to find it. > > You will clearly find that there is seldom a single choice that everyone > > would make the same. 'Different boats for different folks!' Get lots > > of different advice, evaluate it with your own experience and keep > > moving ahead. And get out on the water as soon as you possibly can. > > Charter crewed boats at first, then take bareboat chartering classes > > together. Charter boats you are attracted to. You couldn't possibly > > have too much real, personal, on the water experience to inform your > > important choices. That way you can get the mistakes over with earlier > > in the game and minimize the risk of finding that single huge decision > > was somehow wrong. > > > > I also suggest paper magazines, two of my favorite about the cruising > > lifestyle are _Latitudes and Attitudes_ and _Cruising World_. Actually > > you can score Lats and Ats online for free I'm told, and I kinda recall > > that CW is available online as well, although I think a subscription > > price is involved there. Save a tree. Both mag.s extensively cover > > long term cruising and liveaboard lifestyle. Recently there are a spate > > of new blogs about everything, including those from cruisers of every > > sort. Check them out. > > > > So feel free to meld our opinions and experiences to form and guide your > > own, and again, welcome, > > > > Gary Bell, sometimes known as that old drone Mister Science. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Power-Catamaran Mailing List > > > > End of Power-Catamaran Digest, Vol 57, Issue 5 > > ********************************************** > > _________________________________________________________________ > Reinvent how you stay in touch with the new Windows Live Messenger. > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9706116 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 09:54:16 +0800 > From: "Thai-Kiwi Marine Co Ltd" <boat@thaiboating.com> > To: "Power Catamaran List" <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> > Subject: Re: [PCW] shionning vt950 > Message-ID: <5951790$1c68776c$46c9a4cd$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > In my opinion the Aussies, especially Craig Schionning and Tony Grainger > are streets ahead with their powercat and sailing cat designs..... just > waiting for a client so as I can build one. Our rate in Thailand is much > less than $50 per hour. > > Geoff Reid > Thai-Kiwi Marine Co Ltd > > http://www.thaiboating.com > > ---------------------------------------- > From: "bill benson" <bb8176@hotmail.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 4:43 AM > To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com > Subject: [PCW] shionning vt950 > > shionning sell a powercat "prowler vt 950. /check out 'shionning designs' > . > Its fast, shallow draft, and I think more fuel efficient then the 34 pdq. > [henry, owner of sno-dog, I would like to hear your thoughts on this > model.] > It comes in a kit that sells for $175,000.00. 3000 man hours to build. > [does > that mean $50 per hour, so an extra $150,000 to build it?] Anybody out > there > who has any thoughts good or bad, I would be interested to hear them. The > seles yacht has even better fuel economy but it is a smaller craft. Is > Australia a step up on power multihulls then over here? > > > From: power-catamaran-request@lists.samurai.com > > Subject: Power-Catamaran Digest, Vol 57, Issue 5 > > To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com > > Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 00:00:00 -0500 > > > > Send Power-Catamaran mailing list submissions to > > power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/power-catamaran > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > power-catamaran-request@lists.samurai.com > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > power-catamaran-owner@lists.samurai.com > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Power-Catamaran digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Welcome aboard (Gary Bell) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 06:39:59 -0800 > > From: Gary Bell > > To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com > > Subject: [PCW] Welcome aboard > > Message-ID: <4B44A0BF.6030606@earthlink.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > > > All hands-- > > > > > > > > Join me in welcoming Robert Franklin to the List. > > > > > Gladly Georgs. Welcome Robert and Patty! > > > > > > > > > >> > > My wife Patty and I live in Lynchburg, Virginia and are certain > to > > >> > > be the most inexperienced and least knowledgeable members of the > > >> > > list. We have never owned a motor boat. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> ...in a former life I was a > > >> > > chemical engineer and still do some consulting... > > I challenge the least knowledgeable part. You will be surprised at how > > useful your chemical and engineering experiences will be on a list where > > fuels, lubricants, paints, building materials (particularly composites > > like FRP), etc. are common topics. Most of what we all learned about > > how to live on land extends onto the water as well: finance, cooking, > > relationships, insurance, health care, etc. etc. etc.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > Since we are both in our 50's and are coming to boating late > in life > > >> > > we will probably only buy one boat so we want to make the most > > >> > > informed decision possible. > > >> > > You certainly can do that, but instead of a single momentous decision on > > which so much rides please consider that real experience is the only way > > to develop and understand your own capabilities and preferences. The > > only way to learn to ride a bike is with both feet on the pedals and a > > couple of Band-Aids in your pocket. I strongly suggest instead that you > > get a progression of boats from the smaller, simpler and cheaper working > > your way toward your ultimate goal of a coastal cruising power > > catamaran. And don't fixate on just one single unchanging final goal > > here, feel free to re-evaluate as you go. You will need plenty of help > > and advice along the way, and these lists are great places to find it. > > You will clearly find that there is seldom a single choice that everyone > > would make the same. 'Different boats for different folks!' Get lots > > of different advice, evaluate it with your own experience and keep > > moving ahead. And get out on the water as soon as you possibly can. > > Charter crewed boats at first, then take bareboat chartering classes > > together. Charter boats you are attracted to. You couldn't possibly > > have too much real, personal, on the water experience to inform your > > important choices. That way you can get the mistakes over with earlier > > in the game and minimize the risk of finding that single huge decision > > was somehow wrong. > > > > I also suggest paper magazines, two of my favorite about the cruising > > lifestyle are _Latitudes and Attitudes_ and _Cruising World_. Actually > > you can score Lats and Ats online for free I'm told, and I kinda recall > > that CW is available online as well, although I think a subscription > > price is involved there. Save a tree. Both mag.s extensively cover > > long term cruising and liveaboard lifestyle. Recently there are a spate > > of new blogs about everything, including those from cruisers of every > > sort. Check them out. > > > > So feel free to meld our opinions and experiences to form and guide your > > own, and again, welcome, > > > > Gary Bell, sometimes known as that old drone Mister Science. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Power-Catamaran Mailing List > > > > End of Power-Catamaran Digest, Vol 57, Issue 5 > > ********************************************** > > _________________________________________________________________ > Reinvent how you stay in touch with the new Windows Live Messenger. > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9706116 > _______________________________________________ > Power-Catamaran Mailing List > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 21:47:10 -0500 > From: Henry Clews <hclews@aol.com> > To: Power Catamaran List <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> > Subject: Re: [PCW] shionning vt950 > Message-ID: <C1595EDE-F719-443E-98ED-0F9FE07F6089@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Hi Bill, > > I'm not really familiar with this design, although I know Schionning > has an excellent reputation. > I was able to find some info at: > <www.schionningdesigns.com.au/login/pages/images/StudyPlanProwler950VT.pdf > > > but I couldn't find a very coherent website describing the Prowler 950 > VT. > > From what I can see, it's an outboard-powered, planing design. But I > don't see any performance > data, so it's hard to make any judgement on economy. > > Unless you really like the 950 VT layout, and prefer outboard power, > I'd check out the used > PDQ market, there's a bunch of them out there starting in the low $200 > K's. If you're in Florida, > drop by the PDQ Rendezvous & Open House in Stuart on January 23-24. > <www.rhumblineyachtsales.com/open_house.html> > I'll be there. > > Henry Clews > www.snodoglog.com > > On Jan 9, 2010, at 4:42 PM, bill benson wrote: > > > shionning sell a powercat "prowler vt 950. /check out 'shionning > > designs' . > > Its fast, shallow draft, and I think more fuel efficient then the 34 > > pdq. > > [henry, owner of sno-dog, I would like to hear your thoughts on this > > model.] > > It comes in a kit that sells for $175,000.00. 3000 man hours to > > build. [does > > that mean $50 per hour, so an extra $150,000 to build it?] Anybody > > out there > > who has any thoughts good or bad, I would be interested to hear > > them. The > > seles yacht has even better fuel economy but it is a smaller craft. Is > > Australia a step up on power multihulls then over here? > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Power-Catamaran Mailing List > > End of Power-Catamaran Digest, Vol 57, Issue 7 > ********************************************** _________________________________________________________________

I do not know how to do the conversion to > gallons/hour from lt/nmile 3.7854 litres per US gal 4.5461 litres per imperial gal Regards Roger Bingham France

1.2 lt/NM at 15 kts yields about 3.2 NM/gal, or 4.75 gph. .88 lt/NM yields 4.3 NM/gal, or 3.5 gph