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Re: [Oama] DEQ Clean Up

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david davis
Tue, Dec 8, 2020 5:48 PM

In order for the public trust to borrow money the city governing body would have to approve so two meetings would be required,ie.  one for city and one for public trust. Alvin Files can probably help you with forms.

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Subject: RE: [Oama] DEQ Clean Up

All:

Thank you for your responses. I guess the big question is short term spending. Basically, how can a city spend a few $100 that is not in the budget without giving notice and holding a public meeting?

Are there any issues if they city is able to take out a short term loan but does not give notice and hold a public meeting?

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Subject: Re: [Oama] DEQ Clean Up

Agree what Jeff pointed out.  DEQ usually will work with a municipality on payment of fines.  It would be worth opening up a dialogue with them on rectifying the issue before the fines are collected.  Many times the available revenue is best applied toward infrastructure improvements to address the issues.  Hopefully, DEQ would suspend some of the fines.

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On Dec 8, 2020, at 9:33 AM, Jeff Bryant via Oama <oama@lists.imla.orgmailto:oama@lists.imla.org> wrote:



Alan,

It has been my experience that ODEQ is more interested in compliance than collecting fines.  Unless your city believes the Consent Order is unjust, working with ODEQ to map out a plan to achieve compliance is often incentive for ODEQ to waive, reduce, or suspend fines.  This approach may give your city more time to plan for the costs necessary to achieve compliance.  If you have already tried this approach, then a loan through the public trust, as David suggests, is a good option provided you can find a willing lender.  Hope this helps.

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Subject: Re: [Oama] DEQ Clean Up

If you have a public works authority (a public trust) you could take out a short term loan from local bank.

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Subject: [Oama] DEQ Clean Up

Colleagues:

How would a municipality pay for DEQ ordered clean up on short notice? There is not enough time for regular notice or a hearing because of the time frame to pay the fines. And the municipality does not have an operating reserve.

Thanks in advance!

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In order for the public trust to borrow money the city governing body would have to approve so two meetings would be required,ie. one for city and one for public trust. Alvin Files can probably help you with forms. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This transmission is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. Sections 2510-2521 and intended to be delivered only to the named addressee(s) This e-mail message is intended only for the personal use of the recipient(s) named above. This message is or may be an attorney-client communication and as such privileged and confidential. If you are not an intended recipient, you may not review, copy or distribute this message. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the original message. s/ David A. Davis LAW OFFICE OF DAVID A. DAVIS 4312 N. Classen Blvd. OKLAHOMA CITY, OK 73118 405 840-6353 405 557-0777 (FAX) ddavislaw@live.com<mailto:ddavislaw@live.com> ________________________________ From: Alan Taylor <taylor@callpalmer.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 11:45 AM To: Law office <bradcarterlawoffice@gmail.com>; Jeff Bryant <jbryant@omag.org>; david davis <ddavislaw@live.com> Subject: RE: [Oama] DEQ Clean Up All: Thank you for your responses. I guess the big question is short term spending. Basically, how can a city spend a few $100 that is not in the budget without giving notice and holding a public meeting? Are there any issues if they city is able to take out a short term loan but does not give notice and hold a public meeting? [cid:image001.png@01D6CD57.AAB36260] Alan Taylor, Esq. PALMER LAW 1609 Arlington Ada, OK 74820 (405) 885-0890 taylor@callpalmer.com<mailto:taylor@callpalmer.com> This email may be privileged attorney-client communication and/or litigation work product. It is intended solely for the addressee(s). Please reply to sender if you receive this message in error. Such error does not waive the applicable privilege(s) From: Law office <bradcarterlawoffice@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 10:34 AM To: Jeff Bryant <jbryant@omag.org> Cc: david davis <ddavislaw@live.com>; Alan Taylor <taylor@callpalmer.com>; oama@lists.imla.org Subject: Re: [Oama] DEQ Clean Up Agree what Jeff pointed out. DEQ usually will work with a municipality on payment of fines. It would be worth opening up a dialogue with them on rectifying the issue before the fines are collected. Many times the available revenue is best applied toward infrastructure improvements to address the issues. Hopefully, DEQ would suspend some of the fines. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 8, 2020, at 9:33 AM, Jeff Bryant via Oama <oama@lists.imla.org<mailto:oama@lists.imla.org>> wrote:  Alan, It has been my experience that ODEQ is more interested in compliance than collecting fines. Unless your city believes the Consent Order is unjust, working with ODEQ to map out a plan to achieve compliance is often incentive for ODEQ to waive, reduce, or suspend fines. This approach may give your city more time to plan for the costs necessary to achieve compliance. If you have already tried this approach, then a loan through the public trust, as David suggests, is a good option provided you can find a willing lender. Hope this helps. Jeff Bryant OMAG’s COVID-19 Info Page: https://www.omag.org/covid19-faq<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.omag.org%2Fcovid19-faq&data=04%7C01%7C%7C76d391f2300f4302094108d89ba11844%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637430463484922693%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=0CoBKaxz%2BpNYIRZ5xd4JCNWvt76zOHmkcSRz%2BJj6QQI%3D&reserved=0> Jeff H Bryant Director of Legal Services Associate General Counsel jbryant@omag.org<mailto:jbryant@omag.org> <image002.png> 3650 S. Boulevard Edmond, Oklahoma 73013 Phone: 405-657-1419 Fax: 405-657-1401 www.omag.org<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.omag.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C76d391f2300f4302094108d89ba11844%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637430463484932689%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=7Wk%2FOO%2B9Bun0JaUUjN8CyJlYMoW9jz6qVyh%2FIWs5h4E%3D&reserved=0> From: Oama <oama-bounces@lists.imla.org<mailto:oama-bounces@lists.imla.org>> On Behalf Of david davis Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 9:14 AM To: Alan Taylor <taylor@callpalmer.com<mailto:taylor@callpalmer.com>>; oama@lists.imla.org<mailto:oama@lists.imla.org> Subject: Re: [Oama] DEQ Clean Up If you have a public works authority (a public trust) you could take out a short term loan from local bank. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This transmission is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. Sections 2510-2521 and intended to be delivered only to the named addressee(s) This e-mail message is intended only for the personal use of the recipient(s) named above. This message is or may be an attorney-client communication and as such privileged and confidential. If you are not an intended recipient, you may not review, copy or distribute this message. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the original message. s/ David A. Davis LAW OFFICE OF DAVID A. DAVIS 4312 N. Classen Blvd. OKLAHOMA CITY, OK 73118 405 840-6353 405 557-0777 (FAX) ddavislaw@live.com<mailto:ddavislaw@live.com> From: Oama <oama-bounces@lists.imla.org<mailto:oama-bounces@lists.imla.org>> on behalf of Alan Taylor <taylor@callpalmer.com<mailto:taylor@callpalmer.com>> Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 9:00 AM To: oama@lists.imla.org<mailto:oama@lists.imla.org> <oama@lists.imla.org<mailto:oama@lists.imla.org>> Subject: [Oama] DEQ Clean Up Colleagues: How would a municipality pay for DEQ ordered clean up on short notice? There is not enough time for regular notice or a hearing because of the time frame to pay the fines. And the municipality does not have an operating reserve. Thanks in advance! <image003.png> Alan Taylor, Esq. PALMER LAW 1609 Arlington Ada, OK 74820 (405) 885-0890 taylor@callpalmer.com<mailto:taylor@callpalmer.com> This email may be privileged attorney-client communication and/or litigation work product. It is intended solely for the addressee(s). 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