Hello Renee, We build powercats. We have a 2011 model, Havana 40 at the Fort Lauderdale Boat Show this year. It has a "open" galley, which is two steps lower but you can still see and communicate with everybody and they can still see you. It has 3 berths and lots of amenities. Cruiser Cats have been around for four years now. Please take a look at our website at www.cruisercats.com and let us know if you are interested in any of our boats. We could also build a new one for you with a galley up. Good luck in your search for a new Cat! They are definitely great to have. Best regards, Clark Boeken Director Cruiser Cats Tel: 210 240 5612 Email: clark@cruisercats.com ---------------------------------------- From: power-catamaran-request@lists.trawlering.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 11:18 PM To: power-catamaran@lists.trawlering.com Subject: Power-Catamaran Digest, Vol 72, Issue 4 Send Power-Catamaran mailing list submissions to power-catamaran@lists.trawlering.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/power-catamaran_lists.trawlering.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to power-catamaran-request@lists.trawlering.com You can reach the person managing the list at power-catamaran-owner@lists.trawlering.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Power-Catamaran digest..." Today's Topics: 1. looking for catamaran (Renee Metty) 2. Re: looking for catamaran (steve deetz) 3. Re: Pacific Expedition status (Larry G.) 4. Re: looking for catamaran (Mark) 5. Re: looking for catamaran (Mark) 6. Re: Wild Wind IV (Geoff Smith) 7. Re: Wild Wind IV (Dennis Raedeke) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 20:15:52 -0700 From: "Renee Metty" To: Subject: [PCW] looking for catamaran Message-ID: <003201cc8bb1$e9f56eb0$bde04c10$@edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi So glad this list is active again. We are looking for a catamaran between 35-45 feet, fiberglass (not with wood underneath) and would love it to have 3-4 berths in the hulls with galley up. We are open to power or sail but are leaning towards power. Diesel engines with at least 2 heads would be great. No project boats and one with good records would be great. We live in Seattle, but are willing to ship. Best, Renee 206-718-3940 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 22:58:52 -0500 From: steve deetz To: , Subject: Re: [PCW] looking for catamaran Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" A trip to Phuket may be in order. I have met a couple of naval architects and builders who are building both power and sail cats there. Designs are either French, or Australian, composite boats, with low labor costs, and good workmanship with the proper oversight of the builder. Cocnut Bite Marina and Boat lagoon are a couple of locations on Phuket proper where large cats are being built and restored. steve > From: cachuela@bc.edu > To: power-catamaran@lists.trawlering.com > Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 20:15:52 -0700 > Subject: [PCW] looking for catamaran > > Hi > > So glad this list is active again. We are looking for a catamaran between > 35-45 feet, fiberglass (not with wood underneath) and would love it to have > 3-4 berths in the hulls with galley up. We are open to power or sail but > are leaning towards power. Diesel engines with at least 2 heads would be > great. No project boats and one with good records would be great. We live > in Seattle, but are willing to ship. > > > > Best, > > Renee > > 206-718-3940 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Power-Catamaran Mailing List ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 08:42:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "Larry G." To: Power Catamaran List Subject: Re: [PCW] Pacific Expedition status Message-ID: <1318779721.43479.YahooMailClassic@web162020.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Really sorry to hear about PE, which was a great source of dreams for my cat passions only a couple of years ago. ?On another Forum, I saw this photo of what appears to be a smallish powercat at the Annapolis Show. ?Early last year, I plopped this photoshopped pilothouse on an Endeavour 30 sail cat to tease the owner over to the dark side. ?It sure looks a lot like the realized product here in the photo. ?Anyone know if it was a conversion, or perhaps a custom build? ?I'll post the photo below from Photobucket. ?Sorry in advance if it fails. [IMG]http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv114/texflot/catpilotcomparisons.jpg[/IMG] ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 09:00:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark To: "cachuela@bc.edu" , "power-catamaran@lists.trawlering.com" , Power Catamaran List Subject: Re: [PCW] looking for catamaran Message-ID: <1318780834.29930.YahooMailNeo@web31805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Renee,? sounds like you might be looking for something used.? Your email reminds me a comment made by Dave Abbot (http://www.maxingout.com/ ) who sailed their '93 Privilege 39 around the world for many years. He talks about his sailboat being a great power boat with 1400 mi range under power on standard tanks (running one engine at a time).? If you pull the rig and sails, I'm sure you could add extra tankage with the weight savings and get even more range.? the P39 is a fairly heavy boat, a more modern lighter weight boat might do even better on range if that's important to you.?? Just a thought...Mark ________________________________ From: Renee Metty To: power-catamaran@lists.trawlering.com Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 8:15 PM Subject: [PCW] looking for catamaran Hi So glad this list is active again.? We are looking for a catamaran between 35-45 feet, fiberglass (not with wood underneath) and would love it to have 3-4 berths in the hulls with galley up.? We are open to power or sail but are leaning towards power.? Diesel engines with at least 2 heads would be great.? No project boats and one with good records would be great.? We live in Seattle, but are willing to ship. Best, Renee 206-718-3940 _______________________________________________ Power-Catamaran Mailing List ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 09:00:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark To: "cachuela@bc.edu" , "power-catamaran@lists.trawlering.com" , Power Catamaran List Subject: Re: [PCW] looking for catamaran Message-ID: <1318780834.29930.YahooMailNeo@web31805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Renee,? sounds like you might be looking for something used.? Your email reminds me a comment made by Dave Abbot (http://www.maxingout.com/ ) who sailed their '93 Privilege 39 around the world for many years. He talks about his sailboat being a great power boat with 1400 mi range under power on standard tanks (running one engine at a time).? If you pull the rig and sails, I'm sure you could add extra tankage with the weight savings and get even more range.? the P39 is a fairly heavy boat, a more modern lighter weight boat might do even better on range if that's important to you.?? Just a thought...Mark ________________________________ From: Renee Metty To: power-catamaran@lists.trawlering.com Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 8:15 PM Subject: [PCW] looking for catamaran Hi So glad this list is active again.? We are looking for a catamaran between 35-45 feet, fiberglass (not with wood underneath) and would love it to have 3-4 berths in the hulls with galley up.? We are open to power or sail but are leaning towards power.? Diesel engines with at least 2 heads would be great.? No project boats and one with good records would be great.? We live in Seattle, but are willing to ship. Best, Renee 206-718-3940 _______________________________________________ Power-Catamaran Mailing List ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 14:40:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Geoff Smith To: "power-catamaran@lists.trawlering.com" Subject: Re: [PCW] Wild Wind IV Message-ID: <1318801211.73425.YahooMailNeo@web33904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 First let me say Wild Wind IV is a beauty. Watched the video on her being made and found some other sites with photos. Hopefully she was only deck cargo because you had other responsibilities pulling you away and not a major breakdown. It is very kind of you to offer your number for a chat. You will be a wealth of info thank you. I have to say we are coming at this from very different finances LOL. I do not even have a house to sell when I start this journey. Ultimately I will hope to find something like an AeroCat Explorer but in researching power cats I came across houseboats also built on cat hulls which got me wondering can some of them do the loop. It seems some have. Like yourself I would prefer to have the speed available when needed but ultimately it comes down to money and there are some amazing prices on house boats. I have many years to go so not in a hurray. > > >A house boat for the Great Loop??? > >I have done the Great Loop 5 times. 1 clockwise and 4 counter clockwise. It really is just the way for me to get home to Lake Superior. Most of the Loop can be done very comfortably? in a houseboat. There are some places that could be a problem. > >First your boat must have an air height of less than 19' ( Illinois River) If you are going through the entire length of the Erie Canal your air height would have to be less than 15', if over 15' and less than 19' you will have to go down the Oswego Canal into Lake Ontario which may not be the best place for a houseboat. Next after going up the Welland Canal you will have to cross Lake Erie, Lake Huron and Lake Michigan. On the Mississippi I have seen 3-5' seas as the wind was strong from the south against a south going current. The trip across the north eastern corner of the Gulf of Mexico can be very rough. One other potentially tough place is the Atlantic from the Delaware river to Sandy Hook entering New York. The Chesapeake can also be a problem. > >I know that you can wait out the weather. I can remember leaving Port Huron heading north in calm weather. In less than 3 hours I was fighting 50 knots of wind on the beam. It was not forecast. > >If you are willing to take the extra time and plan your days with alternate stops it might be worth consideration. If you don't have the boat yet I would Think it over very hard before I would do the Loop in a Houseboat. > >If you would like to talk call me.? 715 483 9755? C 715 781 1080 > >Also Wild Wind IV is now slumbering in Port Angeles WA. She was deck cargo from Fort Lauderdale to Victoria BC. We made several trips up the eastern side of Vancouver Island this summer. Our intention is to go to Alaska next summer. > >Dennis Raedeke? ? Pachoud 60 Powercat. > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 13:27:47 -0700 >From: "Timothy Park" >To: >Subject: [PCW] Pacific Expedition status >Message-ID: <000001cc8b78$e73ca730$b5b5f590$@com> >Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset="us-ascii" > >Jason, Chuck; > > > >Thanks for the information.? I am hoping to do some business with another >outfit in the same location (Tongue Point) and will be poking around a bit >next week during my site visit.? My last swing through on a Sunday found me >facing locked gates so I wasn't able to access the area. > > > >? I did have some brief contact with Mr. Fleenor a year or so ago and yes, >his experience seemed to be positive which was a good sign.? However, my >brief contact with PE also left me with an "odd" feeling, hearing all about >super secret projects with NDA's in place, etc. with little current progress >information.? Adding that to some of the past posts and the fact that the >blog site went silent sent warning flares up all around me.? I am hoping >that PE hasn't succumbed to the Ponzi boatbuilding scheme because I really >like the looks of their 50 and would prefer to do any business locally.? I'm >not a wealthy guy, so dumping pretty much all of my money into something >that might go "poof" simply isn't an option. > > > >On another note, I'll likely be attending FLIBS after another conference I >must attend and am looking forward to taking a look at the Horizon 58!? If >that happens, I'll make sure I post my impressions. > > > >Tim > > > > > > > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Power-Catamaran Mailing List > >End of Power-Catamaran Digest, Vol 72, Issue 3 >********************************************** > > > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 20:09:57 -0500 From: "Dennis Raedeke" To: "Geoff Smith" , "Power Catamaran List" Subject: Re: [PCW] Wild Wind IV Message-ID: <08308766AED246D1B53B7C47F2030634@dennisr> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Geoff, Sounds like it's dreaming time. I dreamed for years before I did my cruising. Dreaming is good for the soul and useful if you can carry it off. Just find a boat of any type that you and your mate, if you have one, is comfortable in and take your time and you will have the time of your life. Remember cruising is an adventure every day. The size and price of the boat has nothing to do with how much fun you will have. Good luck with the planning and remember the most important thing is to go. Let me know if I can help in any way. Wild Wind IV is healthy. My wife would not consider the long trip against the weather and the time involved. I somewhat agree with her. The cost and all involved was only about one third more. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Smith" To: Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [PCW] Wild Wind IV First let me say Wild Wind IV is a beauty. Watched the video on her being made and found some other sites with photos. Hopefully she was only deck cargo because you had other responsibilities pulling you away and not a major breakdown. It is very kind of you to offer your number for a chat. You will be a wealth of info thank you. I have to say we are coming at this from very different finances LOL. I do not even have a house to sell when I start this journey. Ultimately I will hope to find something like an AeroCat Explorer but in researching power cats I came across houseboats also built on cat hulls which got me wondering can some of them do the loop. It seems some have. Like yourself I would prefer to have the speed available when needed but ultimately it comes down to money and there are some amazing prices on house boats. I have many years to go so not in a hurray. > > >A house boat for the Great Loop??? > >I have done the Great Loop 5 times. 1 clockwise and 4 counter clockwise. It >really is just the way for me to get home to Lake Superior. Most of the >Loop can be done very comfortably in a houseboat. There are some places >that could be a problem. > >First your boat must have an air height of less than 19' ( Illinois River) >If you are going through the entire length of the Erie Canal your air >height would have to be less than 15', if over 15' and less than 19' you >will have to go down the Oswego Canal into Lake Ontario which may not be >the best place for a houseboat. Next after going up the Welland Canal you >will have to cross Lake Erie, Lake Huron and Lake Michigan. On the >Mississippi I have seen 3-5' seas as the wind was strong from the south >against a south going current. The trip across the north eastern corner of >the Gulf of Mexico can be very rough. One other potentially tough place is >the Atlantic from the Delaware river to Sandy Hook entering New York. The >Chesapeake can also be a problem. > >I know that you can wait out the weather. I can remember leaving Port Huron >heading north in calm weather. In less than 3 hours I was fighting 50 knots >of wind on the beam. It was not forecast. > >If you are willing to take the extra time and plan your days with alternate >stops it might be worth consideration. If you don't have the boat yet I >would Think it over very hard before I would do the Loop in a Houseboat. > >If you would like to talk call me. 715 483 9755 C 715 781 1080 > >Also Wild Wind IV is now slumbering in Port Angeles WA. She was deck cargo >from Fort Lauderdale to Victoria BC. We made several trips up the eastern >side of Vancouver Island this summer. Our intention is to go to Alaska next >summer. > >Dennis Raedeke Pachoud 60 Powercat. > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 13:27:47 -0700 >From: "Timothy Park" >To: >Subject: [PCW] Pacific Expedition status >Message-ID: <000001cc8b78$e73ca730$b5b5f590$@com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Jason, Chuck; > > > >Thanks for the information. I am hoping to do some business with another >outfit in the same location (Tongue Point) and will be poking around a bit >next week during my site visit. My last swing through on a Sunday found me >facing locked gates so I wasn't able to access the area. > > > > I did have some brief contact with Mr. Fleenor a year or so ago and yes, >his experience seemed to be positive which was a good sign. However, my >brief contact with PE also left me with an "odd" feeling, hearing all about >super secret projects with NDA's in place, etc. with little current >progress >information. Adding that to some of the past posts and the fact that the >blog site went silent sent warning flares up all around me. I am hoping >that PE hasn't succumbed to the Ponzi boatbuilding scheme because I really >like the looks of their 50 and would prefer to do any business locally. I'm >not a wealthy guy, so dumping pretty much all of my money into something >that might go "poof" simply isn't an option. > > > >On another note, I'll likely be attending FLIBS after another conference I >must attend and am looking forward to taking a look at the Horizon 58! If >that happens, I'll make sure I post my impressions. > > > >Tim > > > > > > > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Power-Catamaran Mailing List > >End of Power-Catamaran Digest, Vol 72, Issue 3 >********************************************** > > > _______________________________________________ Power-Catamaran Mailing List ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Power-Catamaran Mailing List End of Power-Catamaran Digest, Vol 72, Issue 4 **********************************************