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Municipal Attorney -- meeting attendance

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Kim@spadylaw.com
Mon, Mar 7, 2022 10:06 PM

Good afternoon. Those of you who work with small municipalities - do you
attend all monthly meetings?  If so - if you are comfortable sharing - do
you charge a flat rate or your contract hourly rate?

One of my municipalities has, as a cost-saving measure, advised they do not
want me to come to the regular meetings unless I'm specifically asked to do
so. I understand and respect the financial concerns, but the fact that I
will be out of the loop on the discussions and general goings-on makes me
uncomfortable.

I'd appreciate any insight, advice, or general thoughts.

Thanks

Kim Spady

Good afternoon. Those of you who work with small municipalities - do you attend all monthly meetings? If so - if you are comfortable sharing - do you charge a flat rate or your contract hourly rate? One of my municipalities has, as a cost-saving measure, advised they do not want me to come to the regular meetings unless I'm specifically asked to do so. I understand and respect the financial concerns, but the fact that I will be out of the loop on the discussions and general goings-on makes me uncomfortable. I'd appreciate any insight, advice, or general thoughts. Thanks Kim Spady
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Larry Vickers
Thu, Mar 10, 2022 5:59 PM

It is hard to represent a small town if you are not there. To much risk of mistakes from everything to open meeting act violations to decisions being made without proper legal input.

As to fees, you might consider doing it on a flat rate for the meetings and hourly for all other representation.

Larry Vickers, Jr.
Attorney At Law, P.L.L.C.

600 Emporia Street, Suite B

Muskogee, Oklahoma 74401

Phone: 918-682-5900

&

303 South Thornton

Vian, Oklahoma 74962

Phone: 918-773-4004

http://www.lvickerslaw.comhttp://www.lvickerslaw.com/

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From: Kim@spadylaw.com Kim@spadylaw.com
Sent: Monday, March 7, 2022 4:06:09 PM
To: OAMA@lists.imla.org
Subject: [Oama] Municipal Attorney -- meeting attendance

Good afternoon. Those of you who work with small municipalities – do you attend all monthly meetings?  If so – if you are comfortable sharing – do you charge a flat rate or your contract hourly rate?

One of my municipalities has, as a cost-saving measure, advised they do not want me to come to the regular meetings unless I’m specifically asked to do so. I understand and respect the financial concerns, but the fact that I will be out of the loop on the discussions and general goings-on makes me uncomfortable.

I’d appreciate any insight, advice, or general thoughts.

Thanks
Kim Spady

It is hard to represent a small town if you are not there. To much risk of mistakes from everything to open meeting act violations to decisions being made without proper legal input. As to fees, you might consider doing it on a flat rate for the meetings and hourly for all other representation. Larry Vickers, Jr. Attorney At Law, P.L.L.C. 600 Emporia Street, Suite B Muskogee, Oklahoma 74401 Phone: 918-682-5900 & 303 South Thornton Vian, Oklahoma 74962 Phone: 918-773-4004 http://www.lvickerslaw.com<http://www.lvickerslaw.com/> E-mails from this firm normally contain confidential and privileged material, and are for the sole use of the intended recipient. Use or distribution by an unintended recipient is prohibited, and may be a violation of law. If you believe that you received this e-mail in error, please do not read this e-mail or any attached items. Please delete the e-mail and all attachments, including any copies thereof, and inform the sender that you have deleted the e-mail, all attachments and any copies thereof. Thank you. ________________________________ From: Kim@spadylaw.com <Kim@spadylaw.com> Sent: Monday, March 7, 2022 4:06:09 PM To: OAMA@lists.imla.org Subject: [Oama] Municipal Attorney -- meeting attendance Good afternoon. Those of you who work with small municipalities – do you attend all monthly meetings? If so – if you are comfortable sharing – do you charge a flat rate or your contract hourly rate? One of my municipalities has, as a cost-saving measure, advised they do not want me to come to the regular meetings unless I’m specifically asked to do so. I understand and respect the financial concerns, but the fact that I will be out of the loop on the discussions and general goings-on makes me uncomfortable. I’d appreciate any insight, advice, or general thoughts. Thanks Kim Spady
KL
Keen Law OK
Thu, Mar 10, 2022 6:23 PM

I represent two small towns and agree with Larry on both attendance and
flat rating.  Keeping your client within the framework of the Open
Meeting Act on a real-time basis is reason enough to attend.  An ounce of
prevention is worth a pound of cure.  As for me, I flat rate all meetings,
but only attend regular meetings as a matter of course.  Special meetings
only on request.

Ralph Keen

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On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 11:59 AM Larry Vickers larry@lvickerslaw.com
wrote:

It is hard to represent a small town if you are not there. To much risk of
mistakes from everything to open meeting act violations to decisions being
made without proper legal input.

As to fees, you might consider doing it on a flat rate for the meetings
and hourly for all other representation.

Larry Vickers, Jr.
Attorney At Law, P.L.L.C.

600 Emporia Street, Suite B

*Muskogee, Oklahoma 74401              *

Phone: 918-682-5900

&

303 South Thornton

Vian, Oklahoma 74962

Phone: 918-773-4004

http://www.lvickerslaw.com http://www.lvickerslaw.com/

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From: Kim@spadylaw.com Kim@spadylaw.com
Sent: Monday, March 7, 2022 4:06:09 PM
To: OAMA@lists.imla.org
Subject: [Oama] Municipal Attorney -- meeting attendance

Good afternoon. Those of you who work with small municipalities – do you
attend all monthly meetings?  If so – if you are comfortable sharing – do
you charge a flat rate or your contract hourly rate?

One of my municipalities has, as a cost-saving measure, advised they do
not want me to come to the regular meetings unless I’m specifically asked
to do so. I understand and respect the financial concerns, but the fact
that I will be out of the loop on the discussions and general goings-on
makes me uncomfortable.

I’d appreciate any insight, advice, or general thoughts.

Thanks

Kim Spady

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I represent two small towns and agree with Larry on both attendance and flat rating. Keeping your client within the framework of the Open Meeting Act on a real-time basis is reason enough to attend. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. As for me, I flat rate all meetings, but only attend regular meetings as a matter of course. Special meetings only on request. Ralph Keen This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510-2521. Its contents are confidential and legally privileged. The information contained in this email is intended for the exclusive use and benefit of the identified recipient only. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby placed on notice that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us by telephone (918) 696-3355 or by replying to sender, and destroy the original message. On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 11:59 AM Larry Vickers <larry@lvickerslaw.com> wrote: > It is hard to represent a small town if you are not there. To much risk of > mistakes from everything to open meeting act violations to decisions being > made without proper legal input. > > > As to fees, you might consider doing it on a flat rate for the meetings > and hourly for all other representation. > > > *Larry Vickers, Jr.* > *Attorney At Law, P.L.L.C.* > > *600 Emporia Street, Suite B* > > *Muskogee, Oklahoma 74401 * > > *Phone: 918-682-5900* > > *&* > > *303 South Thornton* > > *Vian, Oklahoma 74962* > > *Phone: 918-773-4004* > > *http://www.lvickerslaw.com <http://www.lvickerslaw.com/>* > > E-mails from this firm normally contain confidential and privileged > material, and are for the sole use of the intended recipient. Use or > distribution by an unintended recipient is prohibited, and may be a > violation of law. If you believe that you received this e-mail in error, > please do not read this e-mail or any attached items. Please delete the > e-mail and all attachments, including any copies thereof, and inform the > sender that you have deleted the e-mail, all attachments and any copies > thereof. Thank you. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Kim@spadylaw.com <Kim@spadylaw.com> > *Sent:* Monday, March 7, 2022 4:06:09 PM > *To:* OAMA@lists.imla.org > *Subject:* [Oama] Municipal Attorney -- meeting attendance > > > Good afternoon. Those of you who work with small municipalities – do you > attend all monthly meetings? If so – if you are comfortable sharing – do > you charge a flat rate or your contract hourly rate? > > > > One of my municipalities has, as a cost-saving measure, advised they do > not want me to come to the regular meetings unless I’m specifically asked > to do so. I understand and respect the financial concerns, but the fact > that I will be out of the loop on the discussions and general goings-on > makes me uncomfortable. > > > > I’d appreciate any insight, advice, or general thoughts. > > > > Thanks > > Kim Spady > > > -- > Oama mailing list -- oama@lists.imla.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oama-leave@lists.imla.org >