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GPSDO time constant

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Poul-Henning Kamp
Thu, Jan 8, 2009 12:11 PM

In message 4965E869.4090205@rubidium.dyndns.org, Magnus Danielson writes:

Ericsson created a rack system in which the bottom of the rack
was actually forming a closed container with the floor.

We had that at one place I worked, except it was two small "dogs" you
attached front and back a standard 19" rack.

Trouble was that you had to wash the floor first, or the dust would
blow all over the place.

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In message <4965E869.4090205@rubidium.dyndns.org>, Magnus Danielson writes: >Ericsson created a rack system in which the bottom of the rack >was actually forming a closed container with the floor. We had that at one place I worked, except it was two small "dogs" you attached front and back a standard 19" rack. Trouble was that you had to wash the floor first, or the dust would blow all over the place. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.
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Magnus Danielson
Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:19 PM

Poul-Henning Kamp skrev:

In message 4965E869.4090205@rubidium.dyndns.org, Magnus Danielson writes:

Ericsson created a rack system in which the bottom of the rack
was actually forming a closed container with the floor.

We had that at one place I worked, except it was two small "dogs" you
attached front and back a standard 19" rack.

I never seen it myself, so you have more correct info. I go back from
something told to me way back in time, so details got a bit fuzzy.

Trouble was that you had to wash the floor first, or the dust would
blow all over the place.

You also have some rather high requirements on the floor quality, it
needs to be fairly flat as well.

Cheers,
Magnus

Poul-Henning Kamp skrev: > In message <4965E869.4090205@rubidium.dyndns.org>, Magnus Danielson writes: > >> Ericsson created a rack system in which the bottom of the rack >> was actually forming a closed container with the floor. > > We had that at one place I worked, except it was two small "dogs" you > attached front and back a standard 19" rack. I never seen it myself, so you have more correct info. I go back from something told to me way back in time, so details got a bit fuzzy. > Trouble was that you had to wash the floor first, or the dust would > blow all over the place. You also have some rather high requirements on the floor quality, it needs to be fairly flat as well. Cheers, Magnus
LJ
Lux, James P
Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:29 PM

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com
[mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Magnus Danielson
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 11:19 AM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO time constant

Poul-Henning Kamp skrev:

Danielson writes:

Ericsson created a rack system in which the bottom of the rack was
actually forming a closed container with the floor.

We had that at one place I worked, except it was two small

"dogs" you

attached front and back a standard 19" rack.

I never seen it myself, so you have more correct info. I go
back from something told to me way back in time, so details
got a bit fuzzy.

Trouble was that you had to wash the floor first, or the dust would
blow all over the place.

You also have some rather high requirements on the floor
quality, it needs to be fairly flat as well.

When I worked in the special effects business, we used to use these all the time to move heavy stuff around. It actually doesn't require a "real flat" floor (1 cm grooves aren't a big issue).  Think about them as small hovercraft. It also doesn't take much air pressure to lift things (large area * small pressure).  For instance, folks build small hovercraft using electric leaf blowers as the pressurization fan to support a disk some 1.2m in diameter which will easily support a couple people.

The lift pads we used were about 30cm in diameter. 1 psi (7kPa) lifts about 50kg. Moving around 1 ton things with 4 pads wasn't unusual.

The rougher the floor, the more airflow you need.

> -----Original Message----- > From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com > [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Magnus Danielson > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 11:19 AM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO time constant > > Poul-Henning Kamp skrev: > > In message <4965E869.4090205@rubidium.dyndns.org>, Magnus > Danielson writes: > > > >> Ericsson created a rack system in which the bottom of the rack was > >> actually forming a closed container with the floor. > > > > We had that at one place I worked, except it was two small > "dogs" you > > attached front and back a standard 19" rack. > > I never seen it myself, so you have more correct info. I go > back from something told to me way back in time, so details > got a bit fuzzy. > > > Trouble was that you had to wash the floor first, or the dust would > > blow all over the place. > > You also have some rather high requirements on the floor > quality, it needs to be fairly flat as well. > When I worked in the special effects business, we used to use these all the time to move heavy stuff around. It actually doesn't require a "real flat" floor (1 cm grooves aren't a big issue). Think about them as small hovercraft. It also doesn't take much air pressure to lift things (large area * small pressure). For instance, folks build small hovercraft using electric leaf blowers as the pressurization fan to support a disk some 1.2m in diameter which will easily support a couple people. The lift pads we used were about 30cm in diameter. 1 psi (7kPa) lifts about 50kg. Moving around 1 ton things with 4 pads wasn't unusual. The rougher the floor, the more airflow you need.
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WB6BNQ
Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:36 PM

"Lux, James P" wrote:

 When I worked in the special effects business, we used to use these
 all the time to move heavy stuff around. It actually doesn't
 require a "real flat" floor (1 cm grooves aren't a big issue).
 Think about them as small hovercraft. It also doesn't take much air
 pressure to lift things (large area * small pressure).  For
 instance, folks build small hovercraft using electric leaf blowers
 as the pressurization fan to support a disk some 1.2m in diameter
 which will easily support a couple people.

 The lift pads we used were about 30cm in diameter. 1 psi (7kPa)
 lifts about 50kg. Moving around 1 ton things with 4 pads wasn't
 unusual.

 The rougher the floor, the more airflow you need.

James,

Do you have any web sites that show such a contration using leaf
blowers ?

thanks,

Bill....WB6BNQ

"Lux, James P" wrote: When I worked in the special effects business, we used to use these all the time to move heavy stuff around. It actually doesn't require a "real flat" floor (1 cm grooves aren't a big issue). Think about them as small hovercraft. It also doesn't take much air pressure to lift things (large area * small pressure). For instance, folks build small hovercraft using electric leaf blowers as the pressurization fan to support a disk some 1.2m in diameter which will easily support a couple people. The lift pads we used were about 30cm in diameter. 1 psi (7kPa) lifts about 50kg. Moving around 1 ton things with 4 pads wasn't unusual. The rougher the floor, the more airflow you need. James, Do you have any web sites that show such a contration using leaf blowers ? thanks, Bill....WB6BNQ
CK
Chris Kuethe
Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:42 PM

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:36 AM, WB6BNQ wb6bnq@cox.net wrote:

Do you have any web sites that show such a contration using leaf
blowers ?

mythbusters

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GDB has a 'break' feature; why doesn't it have 'fix' too?

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:36 AM, WB6BNQ <wb6bnq@cox.net> wrote: > Do you have any web sites that show such a contration using leaf > blowers ? mythbusters -- GDB has a 'break' feature; why doesn't it have 'fix' too?
LJ
Lux, James P
Thu, Jan 8, 2009 8:07 PM

Google "Leaf blower hovercraft" and you'll get dozens of useful hits.
Here's a real old link: http://amasci.com/amateur/hovercft.html

-----Original Message-----
James,

Do you have any web sites that show such a contration using leaf
blowers ?

thanks,

Bill....WB6BNQ
Google "Leaf blower hovercraft" and you'll get dozens of useful hits. Here's a real old link: http://amasci.com/amateur/hovercft.html > -----Original Message----- > James, > > Do you have any web sites that show such a contration using leaf > blowers ? > > thanks, > > Bill....WB6BNQ