Has anyone done a P3 project where the municipality(ies) become members of an LLC along with the private entity (then the LLC owns the improvements)? I'm trying to work through whether there any legal restrictions, pitfalls, etc. The proposed P3 LLC would obtain financing etc.
Teresa Nowlin | City Attorney
211 North Elm | P.O Box 2007 | Jenks, OK 74037
918-299-5883 Office
Not enough information to respond specifically however you should be careful in agreements not to run afoul of Article 10 Section 15 of Oklahoma Constitution.
Oklahoma Constitution
[http://www.oscn.net/Images/Applications/search/WDFolderOpen.gif] http://www.oscn.net/applications/OCISWeb/index.asp?level=1&ftdb=STOKCN#Article10-RevenueandTaxation Article 10 - Revenue and Taxation
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[http://www.oscn.net/Images/Applications/search/WDDocument.gif] Section Article 10 section 15 - Pledge or loan of credit - Donation - Exceptions
Cite as: O.S. §, __ __
§ 15. Pledge or loan of credit - Donation - Exceptions.
A. Except as provided by this section, the credit of the State shall not be given, pledged, or loaned to any individual, company, corporation, or association, municipality, or political subdivision of the State, nor shall the State become an owner or stockholder in, nor make donation by gift, subscription to stock, by tax, or otherwise, to any company, association, or corporation.
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Has anyone done a P3 project where the municipality(ies) become members of an LLC along with the private entity (then the LLC owns the improvements)? I’m trying to work through whether there any legal restrictions, pitfalls, etc. The proposed P3 LLC would obtain financing etc.
Teresa Nowlin | City Attorney
211 North Elm | P.O Box 2007 | Jenks, OK 74037
918-299-5883 Office
I have not done a P3 project as you describe. However, I assume that under 74 O. S. §1004, and LLC might be an appropriate §1004C.2. legal entity for such a project.
Since I have not done one, I cannot advise on the pitfalls, but if you want to obtain financing, I have to assume that assets and/or an income stream are being transferred so as to support a loan or revenue bonds. I would go through the debt approval process comparable to a public trust, with the separate approvals of the LLC's debt by the constituent governmental governing boards.
If the private partner provides all of the financing, I suppose that this might be structured as the purchase price of their interest in the LLC and then you would not have a debt to deal with as such.
I would make very clear, the expression in the record of the purpose - presumably economic development of some specific sort.
Michael R. Vanderburg
Ponca City
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Has anyone done a P3 project where the municipality(ies) become members of an LLC along with the private entity (then the LLC owns the improvements)? I'm trying to work through whether there any legal restrictions, pitfalls, etc. The proposed P3 LLC would obtain financing etc.
Teresa Nowlin | City Attorney
211 North Elm | P.O Box 2007 | Jenks, OK 74037
918-299-5883 Office
Also meant to reference article 10 Section 17
Oklahoma Constitution
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[http://www.oscn.net/Images/Applications/search/WDDocument.gif] Section Article 10 section 17 - Aid to corporations, etc., by counties, cities, towns, etc.
Cite as: O.S. §, __ __
§ 17. Aid to corporations, etc., by counties, cities, towns, etc.
The Legislature shall not authorize any county or subdivision thereof, city, town, or incorporated district, to become a stockholder in any company, association, or corporation, or to obtain or appropriate money for, or levy any tax for, or to loan its credit to any corporation, association, or individual.
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Not enough information to respond specifically however you should be careful in agreements not to run afoul of Article 10 Section 15 of Oklahoma Constitution.
Oklahoma Constitution
[http://www.oscn.net/Images/Applications/search/WDFolderOpen.gif] http://www.oscn.net/applications/OCISWeb/index.asp?level=1&ftdb=STOKCN#Article10-RevenueandTaxation Article 10 - Revenue and Taxation
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[http://www.oscn.net/Images/Applications/search/WDDocument.gif] Section Article 10 section 15 - Pledge or loan of credit - Donation - Exceptions
Cite as: O.S. §, __ __
§ 15. Pledge or loan of credit - Donation - Exceptions.
A. Except as provided by this section, the credit of the State shall not be given, pledged, or loaned to any individual, company, corporation, or association, municipality, or political subdivision of the State, nor shall the State become an owner or stockholder in, nor make donation by gift, subscription to stock, by tax, or otherwise, to any company, association, or corporation.
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Has anyone done a P3 project where the municipality(ies) become members of an LLC along with the private entity (then the LLC owns the improvements)? I’m trying to work through whether there any legal restrictions, pitfalls, etc. The proposed P3 LLC would obtain financing etc.
Teresa Nowlin | City Attorney
211 North Elm | P.O Box 2007 | Jenks, OK 74037
918-299-5883 Office
I agree with David's warning.
However, I am not sure if the courts will interpret the constitutional provision as preventing a purely governmental LLC, an entity that did not exists at the time of the adoption of the constitution. Clearly the local governments cannot invest in a private corporation.
MRV
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Not enough information to respond specifically however you should be careful in agreements not to run afoul of Article 10 Section 15 of Oklahoma Constitution.
Oklahoma Constitution
[http://www.oscn.net/Images/Applications/search/WDFolderOpen.gif] http://www.oscn.net/applications/OCISWeb/index.asp?level=1&ftdb=STOKCN#Article10-RevenueandTaxation Article 10 - Revenue and Taxation
[http://www.oscn.net/Images/Applications/search/WDFolderOpen.gif] http://www.oscn.net/applications/OCISWeb/index.asp?level=1&ftdb=STOKCN#InGeneral In General
[http://www.oscn.net/Images/Applications/search/WDDocument.gif] Section Article 10 section 15 - Pledge or loan of credit - Donation - Exceptions
Cite as: O.S. §, __ __
§ 15. Pledge or loan of credit - Donation - Exceptions.
A. Except as provided by this section, the credit of the State shall not be given, pledged, or loaned to any individual, company, corporation, or association, municipality, or political subdivision of the State, nor shall the State become an owner or stockholder in, nor make donation by gift, subscription to stock, by tax, or otherwise, to any company, association, or corporation.
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4312 N. Classen Blvd.
OKLAHOMA CITY, OK 73118
405 840-6353
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Has anyone done a P3 project where the municipality(ies) become members of an LLC along with the private entity (then the LLC owns the improvements)? I'm trying to work through whether there any legal restrictions, pitfalls, etc. The proposed P3 LLC would obtain financing etc.
Teresa Nowlin | City Attorney
211 North Elm | P.O Box 2007 | Jenks, OK 74037
918-299-5883 Office
Also, do not overlook 74 O. S. §5152 et seq.
Mike V
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I agree with David's warning.
However, I am not sure if the courts will interpret the constitutional provision as preventing a purely governmental LLC, an entity that did not exists at the time of the adoption of the constitution. Clearly the local governments cannot invest in a private corporation.
MRV
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Not enough information to respond specifically however you should be careful in agreements not to run afoul of Article 10 Section 15 of Oklahoma Constitution.
Oklahoma Constitution
[http://www.oscn.net/Images/Applications/search/WDFolderOpen.gif] http://www.oscn.net/applications/OCISWeb/index.asp?level=1&ftdb=STOKCN#Article10-RevenueandTaxation Article 10 - Revenue and Taxation
[http://www.oscn.net/Images/Applications/search/WDFolderOpen.gif] http://www.oscn.net/applications/OCISWeb/index.asp?level=1&ftdb=STOKCN#InGeneral In General
[http://www.oscn.net/Images/Applications/search/WDDocument.gif] Section Article 10 section 15 - Pledge or loan of credit - Donation - Exceptions
Cite as: O.S. §, __ __
§ 15. Pledge or loan of credit - Donation - Exceptions.
A. Except as provided by this section, the credit of the State shall not be given, pledged, or loaned to any individual, company, corporation, or association, municipality, or political subdivision of the State, nor shall the State become an owner or stockholder in, nor make donation by gift, subscription to stock, by tax, or otherwise, to any company, association, or corporation.
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s/ David A. Davis
LAW OFFICE OF DAVID A. DAVIS
4312 N. Classen Blvd.
OKLAHOMA CITY, OK 73118
405 840-6353
405 557-0777 (FAX)
ddavislaw@live.commailto:ddavislaw@live.com
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Has anyone done a P3 project where the municipality(ies) become members of an LLC along with the private entity (then the LLC owns the improvements)? I'm trying to work through whether there any legal restrictions, pitfalls, etc. The proposed P3 LLC would obtain financing etc.
Teresa Nowlin | City Attorney
211 North Elm | P.O Box 2007 | Jenks, OK 74037
918-299-5883 Office