Bob, I will show up Wed with a copy of my design of paravanes for the K39. Nick ---------- > From: Bob & Debbie Huddleston <huddlestonb_d@email.msn.com> > To: trawler-world-list@samurai.com > Subject: Re: Stabilizers & Bow Thrusters > Date: Sunday, April 05, 1998 3:05 PM > > Frank Lawlor and all others from Huddleston HuddlestonB_D@msn.com > You are correct. Most of the prices are outrageous. The design estimate > (~$20,000) for flopper stoppers from Krogen was, I believe, a way of telling > me to get lost (along with all the other purchasers of Krogen 39's). I think > this attitude will eventually come back to bite Krogen in the butt, However > the economy is currently hot and they are getting more orders than they can > handle. Even though they are expensive, I am going ahead with the Naiads and > hope that they add a lot to coastal and open ocean passages. From San > Francisco to Seattle the weather, current and seas are usually pretty > "snotty". This is my last toy and will be our home for many years, so I am > trying to ensure that we enjoy the whole experience. > Thanks for the reply. I really appreciate hearing other's opinions. > -----Original Message----- > From: Frank Lawlor <flawlor@skipjack.bluecrab.org> > To: trawler-world-list@samurai.com <trawler-world-list@samurai.com> > Date: Sunday, April 05, 1998 12:06 PM > Subject: Re: Stabilizers & Bow Thrusters > > > >The following is a very belated two cent comment: I have just returned from > >the onerous task of getting my old boat down to the lower Bahamas thus > >missing out on some fine winter weather. In catching up on e-mail, my > >breath was taken away by the costs of a hydraulic bow thruster and design > >of flopper stoppers for a 39 foot boat (Huddleston 3/13/98). I might be > >missing some important subtle points here but I calculate that all of the > >bits and pieces of a hydraulic bow thruster (tunnel, hydraulic pump, > >hydraulic motor, prop unit, hoses and controls) are easily bought from > >equipment suppliers or custom made (tunnel, prop unit) for less than 20 > >percent of the quoted price from Naiad! The second outrageous quote was 20 > >grand for design of flopper stoppers. The Beebe book contains most of the > >design parameters for free. The application of these concepts to a > >particular boat is not exactly rocket science. I had a set of flopper > >stoppers designed and built for my 42 foot custom aluminum motor sailer for > >a small percentage of the design price by the builder (Dave Laux > >Boatbuilders of Georgetown DEL laux@cd.net). An installation for a power > >boat can be designed for push button deployment. Even our sailboat > >deployment system was a very low strain operation and worked beautifully. > >I have budgeted a mere pittance for both bow thruster and flopper stoppers > >on the 40 foot trawler now being assembled. If I had to deal with the sort > >of costs quoted to Mr. Huddleston, I would have to take up golf! > >Frank Lawlor flawlor@bluecrab.com > > > > > >