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Re: [time-nuts] 60 KHz Receiver

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paul swed
Fri, Oct 8, 2010 12:08 AM

Far as I know the telstar station was in andiver maine.
Believe my bell labs journals confirm that.
Additionally those journals describe all kinds of details of the telstar
program.

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Lester Veenstra Lester@veenstras.comwrote:

No, Andover Maine.

Hogg horn (very low sidelobes) was built by Bell Labs for Andover Maine and
PB, France.  The English, being English, had to design and build their own
antenna at Goonhilly. They got the circular polarity wrong so missed the
first linkup, while the French were in solid.

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-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of J. Forster
Sent: 08 October 2010 08:02
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 60 KHz Receiver

There was / is? a ground station near Andover Massachusetts also. The
antenna was called a Hogg Horn.

-John

===============

Could you tell me which book you have on mind ? I'd love to read the
story.

I visited Telstar ground station in Pleumeur-Bodou, France once. There
is museum
there now, called "Cite des Telecoms". They preserved original
horn-like antenna
used for Telstar communication and lots of original equipment. If I
remember
correctly there is even old hydrogen maser displayed.
Place worth seeing.

BR,
Piotr, sp3ukk

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Magnus Danielson
magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote:

On 10/07/10 17:09, J. Forster wrote:

Telstar was a BIG DEAL! There was even a pop song about it.

Reading the Bell labs books on the Telstar project is very nice. Nice
fold-outs on control-panels etc.

They did spent a lot of time to engineer the whole thing. Their antenna
setups that would track the high-dynamic movement due to the low orbit.

Amplifiers was rubin-maser cooled with liquid helium... and stuff like
that.

Cheers,
Magnus


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Far as I know the telstar station was in andiver maine. Believe my bell labs journals confirm that. Additionally those journals describe all kinds of details of the telstar program. On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Lester Veenstra <Lester@veenstras.com>wrote: > No, Andover Maine. > > Hogg horn (very low sidelobes) was built by Bell Labs for Andover Maine and > PB, France. The English, being English, had to design and build their own > antenna at Goonhilly. They got the circular polarity wrong so missed the > first linkup, while the French were in solid. > > > > > Lester B Veenstra MØYCM K1YCM > lester@veenstras.com > m0ycm@veenstras.com > k1ycm@veenstras.com > > > US Postal Address: > PSC 45 Box 781 > APO AE 09468 USA > > UK Postal Address: > Dawn Cottage > Norwood, Harrogate > HG3 1SD, UK > > Telephones: > Office: +44-(0)1423-846-385 > Home: +44-(0)1943-880-963 > Guam Cell: +1-671-929-8141 > UK Cell: +44-(0)7716-298-224 > US Cell: +1-240-425-7335 > Jamaica: +1-876-352-7504 > > This e-mail and any documents attached hereto contain confidential or > privileged information. The information is intended to be for use only by > the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the > intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the e-mail to > the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution > or use of the contents of this e-mail or any documents attached hereto is > prohibited. > > -----Original Message----- > From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On > Behalf Of J. Forster > Sent: 08 October 2010 08:02 > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 60 KHz Receiver > > There was / is? a ground station near Andover Massachusetts also. The > antenna was called a Hogg Horn. > > -John > > =============== > > > Could you tell me which book you have on mind ? I'd love to read the > > story. > > > > I visited Telstar ground station in Pleumeur-Bodou, France once. There > > is museum > > there now, called "Cite des Telecoms". They preserved original > > horn-like antenna > > used for Telstar communication and lots of original equipment. If I > > remember > > correctly there is even old hydrogen maser displayed. > > Place worth seeing. > > > > BR, > > Piotr, sp3ukk > > > > On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Magnus Danielson > > <magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org> wrote: > >> On 10/07/10 17:09, J. Forster wrote: > >>> > >>> Telstar was a BIG DEAL! There was even a pop song about it. > >> > >> Reading the Bell labs books on the Telstar project is very nice. Nice > >> fold-outs on control-panels etc. > >> > >> They did spent a lot of time to engineer the whole thing. Their antenna > >> setups that would track the high-dynamic movement due to the low orbit. > >> > >> Amplifiers was rubin-maser cooled with liquid helium... and stuff like > >> that. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Magnus > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > >> To unsubscribe, go to > >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > >> and follow the instructions there. > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
MD
Magnus Danielson
Fri, Oct 8, 2010 12:32 AM

On 10/08/2010 02:08 AM, paul swed wrote:

Far as I know the telstar station was in andiver maine.
Believe my bell labs journals confirm that.
Additionally those journals describe all kinds of details of the telstar
program.

Being Bell Labs they included some long-term radiation tests of
semiconductors on the outer shell, being monitored over the telemetry
signals.

Need to dig up the story about a command misshap which required them to
rebuild the command transmitter to send an illegal command that they new
would set the state right and enable things back again...

Lots of gory details.

Cheers,
Magnus

On 10/08/2010 02:08 AM, paul swed wrote: > Far as I know the telstar station was in andiver maine. > Believe my bell labs journals confirm that. > Additionally those journals describe all kinds of details of the telstar > program. Being Bell Labs they included some long-term radiation tests of semiconductors on the outer shell, being monitored over the telemetry signals. Need to dig up the story about a command misshap which required them to rebuild the command transmitter to send an illegal command that they new would set the state right and enable things back again... Lots of gory details. Cheers, Magnus
S
shalimr9@gmail.com
Fri, Oct 8, 2010 12:54 AM

I visited Pleumeur Baudou  shortly after it opened, my father was an engineer with the French Telecom ministry (PTT at the time) and he knew people there. I remember the gigantic offset horn and the maser amplifier. Too bad I do not have pictures from this event.

Didier

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-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 60 KHz Receiver

Could you tell me which book you have on mind ? I'd love to read the story.

I visited Telstar ground station in Pleumeur-Bodou, France once. There
is museum
there now, called "Cite des Telecoms". They preserved original
horn-like antenna
used for Telstar communication and lots of original equipment. If I remember
correctly there is even old hydrogen maser displayed.
Place worth seeing.

BR,
Piotr, sp3ukk

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Magnus Danielson
magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote:

On 10/07/10 17:09, J. Forster wrote:

Telstar was a BIG DEAL! There was even a pop song about it.

Reading the Bell labs books on the Telstar project is very nice. Nice
fold-outs on control-panels etc.

They did spent a lot of time to engineer the whole thing. Their antenna
setups that would track the high-dynamic movement due to the low orbit.

Amplifiers was rubin-maser cooled with liquid helium... and stuff like that.

Cheers,
Magnus


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I visited Pleumeur Baudou shortly after it opened, my father was an engineer with the French Telecom ministry (PTT at the time) and he knew people there. I remember the gigantic offset horn and the maser amplifier. Too bad I do not have pictures from this event. Didier Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Piotr Kolodziejczyk <sp3ukk@gmail.com> Sender: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 23:32:23 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement<time-nuts@febo.com> Reply-To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 60 KHz Receiver Could you tell me which book you have on mind ? I'd love to read the story. I visited Telstar ground station in Pleumeur-Bodou, France once. There is museum there now, called "Cite des Telecoms". They preserved original horn-like antenna used for Telstar communication and lots of original equipment. If I remember correctly there is even old hydrogen maser displayed. Place worth seeing. BR, Piotr, sp3ukk On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Magnus Danielson <magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org> wrote: > On 10/07/10 17:09, J. Forster wrote: >> >> Telstar was a BIG DEAL! There was even a pop song about it. > > Reading the Bell labs books on the Telstar project is very nice. Nice > fold-outs on control-panels etc. > > They did spent a lot of time to engineer the whole thing. Their antenna > setups that would track the high-dynamic movement due to the low orbit. > > Amplifiers was rubin-maser cooled with liquid helium... and stuff like that. > > Cheers, > Magnus > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.